Jodi Arias trial discussion #21 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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  • #121
I like your post a lot. I would never think to tape anything like that! Just...no lol. Who does that? Its the same thing I thought when the Alec Baldwin recording came out....or like you mentioned Mel G. Not condoning any actions mind you. Why record this in the first place? Yeeesh.

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To listen to the recording over and over again. As I see it that is a type of stalking. She lived too far to keep an eye on him, but she could hear his voice anytime she wanted to! Simply stalking!
 
  • #122
This YouTube user has a huge collection of videos related to the case: not just trial videos but lots of TV, In-Session, 48 Hours, CBS interviews, news reports, etc. (Be sure to click "Load More" at the bottom.)

https://www.youtube.com/user/tawnidilly/videos?flow=grid&view=0


Woah! Thanks for that link. I found this youtube on there that I had never seen and I find it extremely CREEPY. It's Jodi explaining why she smiled for her mug shot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS2-7sXDQl8
 
  • #123
I'm spending the day at lovely M.D. Anderson while my sister gets all her scans. Hoping I can stream the trial on my iPad! Sure would make my day more interesting!

Will we pick up with them fighting over those pictures?
 
  • #124
This old medicated mind needs help on this, I’ve been in bed for the last week or so, watching the trial on IS, did I imagine it or was JA’s family actually laughing in court?

They were!! Not sure what about, but yes they really are that inappropriate!!
 
  • #125
I started thinking about the sex tape this morning, again. (Should be just having coffee and read about the Super Bowl, like most "normal" people are doing.)

I'm thinking...IMO....this playing the tape for the jury could backfire.

Two words...Oksana Grigorieva. Just like many people asked in that whole mess....why tape the conversation??? Although TOTALLY different topic, but, IMO, "could" be used for the same reason.
She ended up using it to FURTHER (mind you, I said FURTHER...LOL) tarnish Mel G's reputation, AND, almost like "blackmail" to get $$ and child custody.

I've never done phone sex, but what would the REAL purpose be behind recording it??
I honestly believe she was BLACKMAILING him.

Between the pictures and this, I honestly believe she was pretty much holding him over a barrel. THAT could be the reason for the continuation of the "relationship".
I know there's been talk about a Mormon cleansing "ritual" of sorts taking place with TA and someone else. The night before he was attacked, or THAT night. (I KNOW I saw it in one of the discussions/interviews either on TV, or in one of the reports.....BUT, until I find a link, DO NOT take this as anything other than my memory...please, no rumors from my post.)

At any rate, that evening, IMO, all the calls, etc....TA ended the "visits" over the phone....IMO, he just said WTF, and said "do whatever you want" with all the stuff. And, the rest, is a pre-planned tragedy.

I have been suspicious of the blackmail idea, too, Tinkie. I think she may have been extremely disappointed that their relationship was in the tank, so she thought about just retaliating however she could. (Yes, childish to the max.) By now she was mad and figured that "exposing" him would be the worst thing she could do. He had worked hard to get where he was, both with the church and of course with his professional life. So she was going to strike back where it hurt the worst.

Then something happened -- he may have said something that really pizzed her off, hung up on her phone call or blocked her emails, threatened to go to LE to get a restraining order, whatever, and she decided to really strike out at and scare him by simply killing him -- this would also hurt his friends whom she knew did not like her. One big blow, and a thousand will fall down.

Somehow she didn't get around to the blackmail, IMO, she just put it in high killing gear and did what she did. Grrrrrr. (Notice I never said he "hurt her feelings," because I don't think she had the capacity for that.) It just angered her and made her want to be the final "winner". And she has succeeded so far. So far....
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  • #126
Did you let the MOD's know???

Just about everytime I come here my McAfee program has blocked some of the content here. I dont know why.

Its not doing it right now though.

IMO
 
  • #127
OT-for anyone who gets the Oxygen channel, they are showing the Wendi Andriano story on "Snapped" right now. This is a case somewhat similar to Jodi's (she being a former missionary) and Juan successfully prosecuted this case to death row.

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I bet it is no coincidence they are reairing that right now :rocker: I see where it originally aired June 2, 2011
Wendi Andriano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you are right! These cases do have quite a bit in common
 
  • #128
A few days ago I asked who JA was staring at and the answer was her mom. I wonder if there is any video of her mom looking back at JA. The reason I ask is other than her smirk when Lisa said Travis was cheating with JA I have never seen any expression on JA's face. I have seen her hide her face and cry, well I guess that's what she's doing. I wonder if her mom is using sign language to communicate with her.

Grammie, she does have quite the poker face!

Only other expressions I've seen are fake crying (does that count?) and apparently real crying -- not for Travis, that's the fake crying.

The only real sadness I've detected was for herself, when someone recounted something she had done in the past (that she can't do now being in jail), she seemed to feel sorry for herself.
 
  • #129
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LOL!! Love this!!!

Good Morning all!! Can't wait for court to resume! I also wanted to say thanks to everyone for the updates and information posted throughout the day, everyday. I usually have to leave to pick up kids later in the afternoon and miss the afternoon broadcast, but am actually able to follow along on the phone while I'm waiting because of all of you! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! :D
 
  • #130
They were!! Not sure what about, but yes they really are that inappropriate!!

Inappropiate enough to be called down by the judge! :furious:
 
  • #131
Travis Victor Alexander
July 28, 1977 - June 4, 2008

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Summary of case and key dates:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/31/jodi-arias-timeline_n_2387245.html
Crime Scene Photographs:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/jodi-arias-crime-scene-photos_n_2412031.html
Detective's Investigative Report:
http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/floresinvestigationreport.pdf
Autopsy Report:
http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/redactedtravisautopsy.pdf

WS MEMBER RMT's TIMELINE
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Travis' myspace: http://www.myspace.com/tvalexander
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Defendants' myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias
Defendants' other myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jfineart

MARICOPA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT
Jodi Ann Arias DOB 7/1980
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YAY!! my favorite TA pic!!!!!
 
  • #132
I find myself saying "so what" frequently. Not sure DT is presenting case from point A to point B.
Dirty little secret...so what? JA accepted relationship on those terms.
12 year old girl having first orgasm...so what? JA could have hung up.
Male genitals pic on somebody's hard drive (yet to be proved whose)...so what?
TA enjoying sex...so what? What 30-year old man doesn't?

Show me he was violent or abusive...all testimony thus far has failed to prove that.
 
  • #133
To listen to the recording over and over again. As I see it that is a type of stalking. She lived too far to keep an eye on him, but she could hear his voice anytime she wanted to! Simply stalking!

I actually think she recorded them because she could replay them over and over again. She probably got a sexual thrill each time she listened to them.

If they were doing phone sex that means they were apart. This would be a way for her to still pretend he was sexually aroused by her even though he probably hadnt seen her in quite awhile.

Its all she had of him at the time so she used it as a substitute to be turned on sexually.

IMO
 
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Sorry, I came across harsh and did not intend to. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion! I'm sorry. My real intention is if you wanted to go back and look at yesterday's thread. Again, sorry for my brashness.

Oh, noooo!! "I" didn't want to come off as trying to get the last word in.

I was apologizing because it often irritates me when something is discussed ad nauseum and it gets brought up again....and again....and, etc....LOL

I'm glad you let me know!!!
 
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Either JA has a honkin' amount of $$ for "other" food, or her family's staying at the Four Seasons, or whatever high price hotel/spa is out that way.

It appears that this piece is being resold by an independent seller. The description says something like "originally purchased from the Arias family".
 
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  • #139
I posted this before but didn't get much response. Any thoughts?:
On the practical side of things, how would she record the phone call? I assume that back in 2007, Jodi and Travis were using cell phones for the free (included) long distance. Or at least whoever initiated the call placed it on their cell phone. What kind of recording device would you use? Your home answering machine (with a beep every 10 seconds?!) Will the cell phone itself do it? If so, I would assume that it would require one of these newer mega microSD cards to hold the conversation. The large capacity microSD cards (16 GB, 32 GB) were not available in 2007. Please don't tell me she was doing it on a cassette deck with a microphone?

Yes! I've been wondering the same thing...:banghead:
 
  • #140
In the Flores/Arias interrogation video (orange jumpsuit), I find some of Jodi's narrative authentic. Mostly, when she becomes animated and speaks quickly, it seems she is actually doing genuine recall of her memory.

One of these instances is at 2:52:00. Just prior to that, she started talking about taking pix of TA in the shower, laughing when remembering him saying "I feel gay." I felt that was authentic. Then at 2:52:00, she talks about the close up shot of his face. She says:

"It's a great picture...he hates it..." then,

"I don't know what he hates about that picture..."

What I find interesting about this, is that photo was taken at 5:29:20. After saying "he hates it" (present tense), Flores said "you were showing him the pictures?" and she said yes.

So in 114 seconds, between the time of the 5:29:20 face shot, and 5:31:14, the time of the ceiling lights picture, she had 1) taken the picture, 2) pulled up the image in the camera, 3) shown TA the picture, 4) TA responded that he hated it, and 5) dropped or otherwise shot a picture of the lighting indicating a loss of control of the camera. All that happened within 114 seconds.

I believe this part of her story, that she showed him the pic and he said he hated it. What I wanna know is what happened in those 114 seconds? She showed him a photo, showed it to him to get his opinion and then commenced her premeditated murder assault with a knife or gun? The sequence makes no sense to me. Why get his opinion when you're ready to murder him?

Thoughts?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCxFA-LPSmc&feature=youtu.be&t=2h52m00s
 
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