Jodi Arias Trial Discussion #8 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[kscornfed]

how she's seen just seems to be pathologically important to her. first, she could never do such a thing.

then, she was there when it was done, but remained silent to protect her family. in fact, she's willing to take the rap for it to protect them. OH, THE NOBILITY!!

then, it's self defense and she lied to protect TRAVIS's reputation. why, she went through hell to keep people from knowing what a monster he was! she's a saint!

there's no end to how self-serving and egotistical this chick is.

 

[DenverClipper]

Like other posters have mentioned I too think Jodi sprinkles pieces of the truth within her fabricated stories. Like the male and female ninja yelling different versions of 'shut up' at Travis. Jodi mentions this happening several times. I believe it was Jodi yelling at Travis to shut up and it builds on how long it took this poor man to succumb to the injuries she inflicted. Same thing for when she says she hears Travis complaining that he can't feel his legs. IMO that is from damage to his spine which is from the numerous stab wounds to his back while he was hunched over the sink coughing up blood. I think he fell to the floor at this point and as another poster suggests he drags himself down the hallway by his arms because he no longer feels his legs. Can you imagine the suffering?

No. I cannot imagine the suffering. Especially if its true that he lost the use of his legs from on of the stab wounds. Can you just picture him crawling down the hallway trying desperately to escape. Poor guy.

 

[nursebeeme]

Thank ya’ll for the warm welcome. My post will be few and far between as I am working, but will totally be here in spirit! I also do hope my posts make sense, as I ramble, stop…work….get sidetrack…something else pops in my head, and I start rambling again.

Did the ME say something earlier regarding the shot in the head would have rendered him unable to move his arms? I cannot believe that the shot was first and he ended up on all fours crawling and screaming. That shot was done after he was dead and complete overkill. I don’t understand why she would have done it other than complete rage after the fact.

It bothered be that she AGAIN asked for the pictures in the interview yesterday. But I think she wanted to see them to get her story straight.

I wonder if the blood on the sink was too old to be tested for arterial or venous blood. If that was the first place he went to after the initial attack, it would be able to explain where the injury came from?

I wonder if she did tell her self-defense story to the police or just her DT. I think that if she did tell the police, they would have obtained the gun and the knife. Do the laws in AZ require her to take the stand since self-defense is now the story? I recall CA claiming only to her DT that it was an accident and she nor anyone else had to take the stand to tell that story and look what happened? But that was in FL.

he basically testified that after the bullet passed thru the frontal lobe Travis would not be capable of doing anything. (esp walking down the hall to where a huge pool of his blood was found)

 

[KatherineGA]

I'm sorry but could someone expand? Content isn't available in my area. GRRR.
I thought the court sealed the letters. :waitasec: Guess I'm mistaken.

Go here

http://hidemyass.com/

Place the Enquirer link in the box and bingo, it's now available in your area

 

[Linda7NJ]

Yes - August 15, 2011.
http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/JOnamesearch.asp?casenumber=CR2008031021

Great link! Thank you!


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[BritsKate]

Go here

http://hidemyass.com/

Place the Enquirer link in the box and bingo, it's now available in your area

Brilliant (and funny)! Thanks so much!

 

[PASA]

Lol I don't think anyone wants to listen to her rambles. Det. Flores should win a medal!

A promotion and raise as well.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hi, Cuckoohead. I agree. I think that this explains the emotional power of Jodi's three-quarters concocted story. I think that the injury to her hand (her knife hand) indicates that Travis was attempting to disarm her. To me, another strong indication that he was completely defensive, a badly wounded man trying to stop the attack.

A lot of times the person with the knife can get cut also because the kinife becomes slippery from the amount of blood on it. The hand will slip beyond the hilt and onto the blade. One of her cuts were right across where the finger bends where she would be grasping the knife.

I dont think he was trying to disarm her. I think he only had time to throw his hands and arms up trying to deflect some of the knife wounds. That is why he has defense wounds on his hands and wrists.imo.

IMO

 

[K_Z]

Did Beth elaborate on what she was saying to the prison guard?

Beth Karas said she showed up with the whole filming crew to interview JA. JA's attorney found out at the last minute, and showed up at the jail. BK saw JA coming down a hall wearing dark rimmed glasses, and almost didn't recognize her. JA went into a non-contact visitation room, and the atty went too. BK said the atty kept her busy for an extended time, preventing JA from changing her mind about the interview. Eventually BK left, but had a brief interview with a female guard about what JA's daily routine was like.

Guard said she had 16 hour a day access to the day room, phone calls. Sack breakfast and lunch-- PB sandwich, etc. Not allowed to work if they are unsentenced. Very limited ability to take classes due to her max security classification. Access to chapel and clergy.

IS reporter and BK also discussed that at least one of JA's colored pencil drawings recently sold on eBay for $120. Small paper, colored pencils consistent with the materials inmates have access to.

 

[Syd]

Admittedly, the investigator is very good, but his super soft voice is giving me the creeps.

 

[KMouse]

If it were self defense why such an elaborate clean up including laundry?

Why get rid of the weapons?

 

[KatFish]

I think her only chance was to plead not guilty by reason of insanity. She is clearly a mental case. If I was on that jury, I would want to hear from an expert about her state of mind.

 

[BritsKate]

If it were self defense why such an elaborate clean up including laundry?

Why get rid of the weapons?

You mean the .25 she's never seen, fired, or even knew about? Very good question.

(I'm beginning to wonder if I'll make it through this trial without my first timeout, you know. :banghead

 

[kscornfed]

i have a question. was blood found on the sheets she washed?

someone i know suggested she rolled him onto the sheets to pull him back into the bathroom. any evidence of that?

 

[KatFish]

If it were self defense why such an elaborate clean up including laundry?

Why get rid of the weapons?

I am thinking she wore gloves. She happened to get cut and that area was exposed. She seemed shocked that the detective said she left her print behind. Not self defense imo.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think her only chance was to plead not guilty by reason of insanity. She is clearly a mental case. If I was on that jury, I would want to hear from an expert about her state of mind.

That would not work. Believe me if the DT thought for a minute she was insane they would have jumped on that defense rather than the ridiculous one they have boxed themselves into.

Before defendants stand trial they have to be evaluated to see if they are mentally fit to stand trial.

She isnt insane. She is just another psychopath like many in our prison system that are doing LWOP or sitting on DR or have been executed.

IMO

 

[KatFish]

i have a question. was blood found on the sheets she washed?

someone i know suggested she rolled him onto the sheets to pull him back into the bathroom. any evidence of that?

I haven't heard that. She did put the sheets in the washer, but may have in order to get rid of her DNA smeared all over those sheets :what:

 

[Linda7NJ]

You mean the .25 she's never seen, fired, or even knew about? Very good question.

(I'm beginning to wonder if I'll make it through this trial without my first timeout, you know. :banghead

Speaking from experience.., a time out during a trial your closely following is awful!!! I've found that if i type out what I want to say then delete before hitting send helps


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[KMouse]

I am thinking she wore gloves. She happened to get cut and that area was exposed. She seemed shocked that the detective said she left her print behind. Not self defense imo.

I don't think for a nanosecond that it is self defense but in order to try and sell it to the jury the DT will have to explain everything and there is no way they can.

 

[seattlechiquita]

I think her only chance was to plead not guilty by reason of insanity. She is clearly a mental case. If I was on that jury, I would want to hear from an expert about her state of mind.

You and me both. I would have gone for insanity also.