Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #8 *Arrest*

[krkrjx]

I do not think she had a helper, whether whatever happened was accidental or intentional. I think she is either not involved at all or she is 100% responsible. She strikes me as the type who would rat out another person sooner rather than later. Granted, I don't know EG well enough to say with certainty what went down but I do not see her being strong enough to face this alone if anyone else were involved.

 

[Steelslady]

And I'm sorry for your pain Steels. Sad as it may sound, we can only HOPE she lovingly placed toys with him. I hurt for you.

Thank you, mistivon. :rose: :hug: It has been haunting me all morning. That's why I asked Henry if there were any walking/hiking trails with a parking lot, but not in a park. Sometimes your subconscious can tell you something in a dream that doesn't occur when you're awake. I feel LE has a reason to believe she was in some area that pertains to walking/hiking- some kind of evidence on shoes or clothing or even a stroller, and that's why they're searching the parks, but it could just be a park and walk/hike area on the side of a road that she went to instead. We have a lot of those where I live.

 

[chihuahua]

Yes it was. Good thinking!

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Do the smaller (shallower) bodies of water freeze during these weather events?
Wouldn't that be known to a longtime local?
jmo

 

[Zelda1010]

This. I keep coming back to the seemingly strange fact that WE at least have no knowledge of them towing cars or being interested much in the cars (unless I’ve missed that which is possible but it’s such a big indicator, IMO). Do we have any hard confirmation that cadaver dogs were brought through the house? Because if they were and they didn’t hit on the house nor the car, I’m very agreeable to the idea that whenever happened didn’t happen there, and that transport didn’t involve the car (unless it involved a car we don’t know about that has yet to be brought to light and searched.

Also, regarding her interview. Her statement is very odd in regards to the falls, saying “falls could either be cooking dinner...or at the park”. Could either be? This is not a normal speech pattern when recounting past events, IMO. This is giving examples of how something COULD happen but not how something DID. Am I making sense? Just look at “falls could either be”, focus on that and try to use that naturally in recalling past situations. It’s not adding up for me, right there. One might be more likely to say, IMO, for example, “he has fallen while cooking dinner, or at the park”.


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I was looking back at thread #1. I have no idea if the posters have a different view two weeks on. But seasoned websleuthers were impressed with the police response the day after he was reported missing.

Addressing FLA, post 453, thread #1

"one thing I want to say from the viewpoint of someone who has seen thousands of cases here, is it seems that Law Enforcement is putting forth their best efforts, with the local PD, FBI, CART, search dogs, media, etc...in so many cases here we are like "why aren't they doing this or that yet", etc, etc....point is I hope that if you can at least take comfort in anything it is that the response, priority and action seems to be where it should be.
Last edited by margarita25; 02-18-2018 at 10:22 PM."

Again, I don't mean to put words in M25s mouth today. I just didn't get pulled into the case until after EG's arrest. I don't know if the sentiment changed on LE involvement between thread #1 and #3 or #4, or so. Or if an influx of people new to the case has left answerable questions unanswered for theories to grow legs.

And, I apologise, I don't know if you have been along since the beginning or not. I'm just jumping off your post.

 

[leyash]

(Yeah she should be in the nutty farm, but for a whole different reason. She's crazy going around laughing and joking, buying cars, protesting, and then staring at pictures of her and Caylee to be pictured for an interview with her psycho face on while everyone knows what she is. She doesn't care what people think of her either. I'm not religious by any means but I pray, pray that she never has another child. Ever).

I almost wish that would have been part of her trial.
You're not guilty? Oh, ok. Well, let's go ahead and do a radical hysterectomy just to make sure you're not found "not guilty" of hurting another child again.
Heartless? Probably.
Do I care? Not a single iota of a single bit.

 

[Paddleboarder]

I remember that you mentioned this in the previous thread. When someone here posted photos of the house, I said out loud “Oh my!” when I saw the deck. Not likely though If scent dogs were brought in, but it made me pause for a minute. However, I think EG is too disorganized to take Lucas very far if she had anything to do with his disappearance. If she had help, it would be a different story. JMO

JMO, but I’ve think she’s way more organized than we give her credit for. After all...we’re on day 15.


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[leyash]

You know, in cases like this, it should be legal to force the person to talk! Toothpcks under the fingernails, toenails, waterboard, I don't care what is done, just make them talk! It's not fair the rights of the victims end. Where's their right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness??? I'm just venting.

I think the problem with that is, while we all THINK we know the truth (and some of us, including me, are 99.9% sure she had something to do with it), obviously LE hasn't found any substantial proof to charge her with murder. God forbid she ISN'T actually guilty. She'd have a HUGE lawsuit on her hands.

 

[leyash]

LE should go back to the house and have the dogs sniff out the flower bed. I just can't help but wonder since a neighbor claimed to have seen EG and the little girl at the flowerbed.

I don't know why, but I honestly feel like the whole flowerbed thing was just her trying to be "seen." I feel like that's a LOT of what she did was her just trying to be seen, right down to the "suspicious people." I don't think she actually invited them in, but I do feel like she may have talked to them or something. She's just trying to get her alibis all set up, I think.

"No, officer... I wasn't gone this day, these people saw me, remember?"

 

[GigTu]

JMO, but I’ve think she’s way more organized than we give her credit for. After all...we’re on day 15.

She seems like a person who needs to be in control, so I agree that she is probably organized. For all we know, she may have had a place in mind for such an event long before it happened, while hypothesizing internally... just in case. She seems to be a planner.

 

[GigTu]

I don't know why, but I honestly feel like the whole flowerbed thing was just her trying to be "seen." I feel like that's a LOT of what she did was her just trying to be seen, right down to the "suspicious people." I don't think she actually invited them in, but I do feel like she may have talked to them or something. She's just trying to get her alibis all set up, I think.

"No, officer... I wasn't gone this day, these people saw me, remember?"

I agree she saw them, and probably took their picture. But I'd bet they never stopped near the home or spoke with her, and she took the image of them walking away because she wasn't fast enough in getting her camera to get their faces ... or maybe she meant to NOT get their faces. kwim?

What day did that supposedly occur? I think it's an important clue to the timeline. Lucas may have already been gone by then.

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

"So the investigators have now eliminated the possibilities of him walking away or being abducted,"

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article203174319.html

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[WildcatRunner]

Exactly!
I was cooking dinner last night and realized I couldn't remember the last time anyone in my house had fallen while cooking dinner...

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I took her statement to mean while she was cooking, he would fall, or otherwise get hurt, because she wasn't watching him as closely as at other times because she was busy cooking.

 

[chihuahua]

I agree she saw them, and probably took their picture. But I'd bet they never stopped near the home or spoke with her, and she took the image of them walking away because she wasn't fast enough in getting her camera to get their faces ... or maybe she meant to NOT get their faces. kwim?

What day did that supposedly occur? I think it's an important clue to the timeline. Lucas may have already been gone by then.

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/St...pear-in-court-Monday-afternoon-475174883.html
"When asked again if she had any idea, she said there were two people who were acting strangely outside of the home a few days before Lucas disappeared."
"I keep thinking and I keep thinking what could have happened, you know. And I keep thinking back to these two people that were outside of my house a few days prior. A black man and white woman," Glass said."
-snipped by me-
"She continued, "And I said okay, I'm sorry. It's cold outside and I didn't know if you needed to come in. I was just being nice. They stuck around for maybe another 15 or 20 minutes. I actually did snap a picture of them walking away because I wanted to send it to their dad to say hey this is what's going on. Because I'm at home alone."Glass said she did end up sending the picture to Jonathan, Lucas' father."

JMO but seems she's claiming it happened a "few days" before?

 

[Beth11311]

I was looking back at thread #1. I have no idea if the posters have a different view two weeks on. But seasoned websleuthers were impressed with the police response the day after he was reported missing.

Addressing FLA, post 453, thread #1

"one thing I want to say from the viewpoint of someone who has seen thousands of cases here, is it seems that Law Enforcement is putting forth their best efforts, with the local PD, FBI, CART, search dogs, media, etc...in so many cases here we are like "why aren't they doing this or that yet", etc, etc....point is I hope that if you can at least take comfort in anything it is that the response, priority and action seems to be where it should be.
Last edited by margarita25; 02-18-2018 at 10:22 PM."

Again, I don't mean to put words in M25s mouth today. I just didn't get pulled into the case until after EG's arrest. I don't know if the sentiment changed on LE involvement between thread #1 and #3 or #4, or so. Or if an influx of people new to the case has left answerable questions unanswered for theories to grow legs.

And, I apologise, I don't know if you have been along since the beginning or not. I'm just jumping off your post.

Hi, and thank you! Yes I have been following since the beginning, but was hoping someone might have something MSM-based that stated if dogs (cadaver specifically) were brought in. We do know they had tracking dogs, for sure.


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[theirmommy]

Interesting information in this article I didn’t know before... that grabbed my attention. “December of 2017, a disturbance was reported at Beech Elementary school between Glass and Lucas' biological mother, Jamie Orr.”

Also bio mom and dad attended a vigil. I was wondering what they had been up to...
http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Day-15-Search-for-Lucas-Hernandez-in-Wichita-parks-475767953.html


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[DakotaMayi]

I almost wish that would have been part of her trial.
You're not guilty? Oh, ok. Well, let's go ahead and do a radical hysterectomy just to make sure you're not found "not guilty" of hurting another child again.
Heartless? Probably.
Do I care? Not a single iota of a single bit.

Me neither, leyash. One iota would be too much for her.

 

[GigTu]

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/St...pear-in-court-Monday-afternoon-475174883.html
"When asked again if she had any idea, she said there were two people who were acting strangely outside of the home a few days before Lucas disappeared."
"I keep thinking and I keep thinking what could have happened, you know. And I keep thinking back to these two people that were outside of my house a few days prior. A black man and white woman," Glass said."
-snipped by me-
"She continued, "And I said okay, I'm sorry. It's cold outside and I didn't know if you needed to come in. I was just being nice. They stuck around for maybe another 15 or 20 minutes. I actually did snap a picture of them walking away because I wanted to send it to their dad to say hey this is what's going on. Because I'm at home alone."Glass said she did end up sending the picture to Jonathan, Lucas' father."

JMO but seems she's claiming it happened a "few days" before?

She said it happened a few days before he was reported missing, yes. But when was he really missing?

I have a feeling its,closer to the 11th, shortly after her two sons went home to their dad's. JMO

 

[DakotaMayi]

Excuse me, I should be taking notes here. I'm getting too confused between all the cases here. But where are they at with her vehicle? What was found/do LE still have possession of it etc? :tyou:

 

[leyash]

I agree she saw them, and probably took their picture. But I'd bet they never stopped near the home or spoke with her, and she took the image of them walking away because she wasn't fast enough in getting her camera to get their faces ... or maybe she meant to NOT get their faces. kwim?

What day did that supposedly occur? I think it's an important clue to the timeline. Lucas may have already been gone by then.

I don't know that we've gotten a day?
I just know she talked about it in one of her interviews, but I don't know that the day it happened was specifically announced.

Someone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[MissMalowe]

Excuse me, I should be taking notes here. I'm getting too confused between all the cases here. But where are they at with her vehicle? What was found/do LE still have possession of it etc? :tyou:

We haven't been able to figure that out/no MSM confirmation or a peep from LE regarding vehicles being seized.