Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #9 *Arrest*

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Please remove if I'm out of line - but if they arrested her and took her phone as evidence, they would be able to search through it and track her locations. For example, my phone is operated through my Google account and it tracks everywhere I went. At the end of any day, I can pull up the map and it will show my driving route, every stop I've made and how long I stopped. I'm curious if this is how they've chosen to focus their searches in the places they have. Just speculating out loud.

The problem with cell phones is you have to get a warrant to search thru them. If LE went thru her phone before they got one, everything they found on it is in jeopardy in a court of law. I have a feeling that LE wants to find Lucas but they also have to protect the investigation.


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Guys- Is it possible for the accident to have happened Friday or Saturday, she calls it in and waits till Sunday to take him to the final spot? Where was she on Sunday- can anyone verify?


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It’s 9 min one route and 11 on another... Lots of visibility being downtown though. Especially at night. Good idea to check though if it hasn’t already.


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What about vacant homes/buildings near the old & new rentals? MOO


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I actually think there is one right by it. I’ll drive over there tomorrow.


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I am talking about what happened to Lucas. Sorry I didn’t clarify


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Oh, okay. I didn’t realize anyone thought it was an accident. Thanks for clarifying.
 
Close to home areas. Can anyone drive by these sites?

5. Lincoln over creek...is it accessible?
6. Is that a dumpster or compactor behind Arbys? Only fast food along this route.
7. Corner of E Bedell and Breckinridge...is that a compactor in the corner of the parking lot?
8. Trash compactor behind little Caesars next to her old apts on Webb?
9. Felipes Mexican - supposedly her favorite. Is there a compactor in the parking area? Can you get behind the storage buildings?

Residential garbage pickup for B week, (south of central Ave) was week of 2/4 and week of 2/18.
Commercial pickup is random.
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Commercial pickup isn’t random, they have specific times when they are picked up and they group them by area. Having been married to a trashman for a long time, I think there is little chance Lucas would go unnoticed in a residential pickup. Commercial is a different story. It is possible. So many places lock their dumpsters, apartments tho tend to not lock those.


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Come on, folks- WHAT are we missing here?

We need to think of other things she could have carried him in.

How about those storage containers you get at Walmart to store clothing/shoes/linens in? She could have put that in the back of her vehicle and drove off and not be seen, no one would be the wiser as they just moved into their new home and those containers are quite popular.

I'm sure this is laughable, but here goes- how about a bike with a side car for children? I remember folks saying it was warm outside that day. I've been to cities, especially out west, where parents bike with their kids in a side car or a single/double stroller make for bikes attached to the back.

A wagon would make too much noise, I would think. Especially at night, though they have some plastic wagons that are a little bit quieter than the metal wagons.

How about those back pack on wheels that you pull behind you? I've seen some big ones that kids use for college that could fit a small five year old.

Come to think of it, we have suitcases ourselves that have wheels and you can pull behind you.

Grocery cart on wheels that you pull- I don't mean the ones from the store, but I've seen elderly use the fold up ones and they carry about 4 large bags of groceries in them.

Laundry bag? Is there a laundromat near by, where it wouldn't be odd to see someone carrying a laundry bag?
 
Super....can you give more details of location? Maybe Royals can go by there also?

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5211 E Kellogg Drive is the address, it's REALLY close to the house EG just moved into to. The culvert is about 3/4 of the way down the screen, across, and ends where the red location mark is.

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Squirrel85 is in timeout but is still on the search. See the following list compiled of rest areas to the North and Parks in the area.

Rest Areas to the North of Wichita, KS
Williams Rest Area- Pomona, KS. 1hr 56mins 131 miles
Matfield Green Service Area- Matfield, KS. 47mins 50.4 miles
Kansas Travel Information Center-Belle Plain, KS. 28mins 25.1miles
Towanda Service Area-Towanda, KS. 20 mins 18.3 miles

Parks
Pic 1. Dry Creek-Wichita, KS. 6mins 2.0miles
Pic 2. S 127 SE E and Gilbert Street (Go to Cornerstone SDA Church and drive 1 block North... there is a giant field) 12mins 5.9miles

Dry Creek-Derby, KS. 16mins 12.1miles
Walnut Valley Memorial Park - El Dorado. 25 mins 24.5 miles
Holiday Express-El Dorado (huge field behind it) 26mins 24.5 miles
Railroad in El Dorado off of Oil Hill Rd. 30 mins 26.9miles
Main Park- El Dorado. 32mins 27.6miles
Robert Shyrock Park-Augusta, KS. 32mins 21.3miles
Rice Park-El Dorado. 33mins 28.2 miles
El Dorado State Park. 44mins 36.9miles
El Dorado Lake- Blue Stem Park- Campground. 47mins 38.1miles
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Commercial pickup isn’t random, they have specific times when they are picked up and they group them by area. Having been married to a trashman for a long time, I think there is little chance Lucas would go unnoticed in a residential pickup. Commercial is a different story. It is possible. So many places lock their dumpsters, apartments tho tend to not lock those.


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Thank you...I was hoping you were out there to help me on this topic :)

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Kellogg is such a busy area.. I just don’t see anybody risking that
 
Oh, okay. I didn’t realize anyone thought it was an accident. Thanks for clarifying.

Liltexan- If i know about a tip called in to crime stoppers, can I discuss it here?


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Okay. I'm having a hard time keeping up with the rules of things that I've seen previously posted that aren't okay to post. I think I just need to step away for a bit, and come back later to read the TOS yet again.

Please let tomorrow be the day Lucas is found. I can't handle this much longer.

Just follow what LilTexans has requested and you'll be fine. A lot of folks have posted things that they're not supposed too and it may seem like that those comments are ok but that's because the mod either didn't see them to remove them or because no one alerted a mod to the post. I think some people may post things without having read the mod posts about what is ok to post and what is not, not because they are intentionally ignoring the mods but because they simply skim over the post or in their zeal to share they just share a thought without thinking if it's breaking the TOS. Just read the mod posts and follow those rules and you won't find yourself in time-out.
 
Thank you to everyone who is keeping Lucas' thread updated and continuing to search and brainstorm! I wasn't able to do anything today (I had to get my brain rot covered) and I won't be able to tomorrow because I am going to the doctor with our daughter to see baby and find out if she is having a boy are girl. I AM SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Kellogg is such a busy area.. I just don’t see anybody risking that

Even at 1-4am?

ETA: Only giving this timeline because I am figuring she would have waited until traffic was at it's slowest.
 
As weird as it is I took a super long lunch and went by both of these places today. I couldn’t focus and kept thinking about Lucas. I also wanted to see if there were cameras on building around. I didn’t spend too much time but did a little. Something was pulling me to look at both in person.


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I know they searched both parks, but I haven’t heard one thing about this area, which is right there in between both of them.


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Thank you to everyone who is keeping Lucas' thread updated and continuing to search and brainstorm! I wasn't able to do anything today (I had to get my brain rot covered) and I won't be able to tomorrow because I am going to the doctor with our daughter to see baby and find out if she is having a boy are girl. I AM SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAY!! How exciting. Congrats!


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