Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #9 *Arrest*

[Hatfield]

Yes me too- but that’s why we are here instead of in jail- I know I don’t have a past of abuse and DV calls on my record- but if I did? I’d be calling someone close to me- closer than anyone else, for help. Especially if I could pin it on an “accident” of some kind. Think about this-she would stand to lose 3 of her own children for good. She would stand to end up in jail. Although all of these things are happening, if you thought you could spin the story, wouldn’t you try??


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I understand.

JMO
I am leaning toward she acted alone after the boy died.

I think she chose a fairly simple and easy way to dispose of him. I dont think she went through too much trouble. Either a trash bin or just carried into some fairly close by woods and buried in a shallow grave or maybe even just covered with leaves and debri.

But if she did receive any help then I agree it would have to be someone very close to her like family or a very close druggie friend. I struggle with thinking she did that though because nobody wants to go down with her and would have told LE by now.

The only scenario where I could see a friend helping her is if some drugs she bought from this friend was what eneded up killing the child. Then he may feel forced to help her to stay out of trouble himself.

 

[WillenFan21]

The phone pings could be doing drug deals or who knows what else. The reason I feel the commercial dumpster, is looking at the location of the home, considering she may not have a valid licenses, also the fact she has a one year old, she could walk 2 blocks down to either a laundry mat or bakery. Also the fact of how many people have successfully dumped a body in a dumpster and have never been found (even after admitting it and a landfill being searched). I also feel Lucas was gone before reported missing. Of course just my opinion. I do hope to be wrong and Lucas is found and much sooner than later before all evidence is lost.

I agree but I think LE has evidence that he’s not in a landfill bc as I far as I know they have not searched them. They really focused on parks etc from day one. They haven’t even searched water. Also why waste Tim and his resources? Tim spoke with LE and even his Team searched on land. And I’m pretty sure Tim has the resources for water divers. I feel LE etc have reason to believe his body was dumped on land. Even the VI here on WS is stressing that people check their properties. Idk I think got evidence his body is on land and not in water or a landfill.


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[Zelda1010]

Well, I am getting sucked into a googling meth rabbit hole. I should've sat on my hands. But I'm really surprised but what I found and hope it is ok to share at this point. Meth is such an ugly drug. And it doesn't fit with my knowledge of "stoners" of the, I like my drugs to come from the Earth, sort.

But there are the I just need to feel different whaddya got sort. More poly drug users than my idea of stoners or pothead.

Drug use is touchy for me. Parenting on certain drugs is just unfathomable to me. I can hear out a lot of arguments about a lot of drugs, but the beast that is Crystal Meth. How could you take that risk? You have to eat and sleep to parent. You cannot crash. You cannot start tweaking and become neurotic and violent or hypersexual or straight up psychotic.

And yet, they do. People like EG do, or at least people with similar characteristics did in 2004.

From addictions.com
https://www.addictions.com/meth/22-things-meth-addicts-wont-tell-you-about-their-addiction/

According to the NCSACW, meth addicts, as compared to cocaine addicts, are “less likely to use alcohol” in addition to meth but also “have a higher frequency of use.” They are often younger when they start out as well and “are more likely to be female and Caucasian.”

I followed the link to the NCSACW document to try and learn more about the alcohol bit and learned this: bold and underline by me:

Patterns of Methamphetamine Use
.2
To provide a perspective on methamphetamine use, it is helpful to compare
methamphetamine users with the users of cocaine, another stimulant that has been a child
welfare issue for the past two decades. Compared with cocaine users, methamphetamine
users exhibit the following characteristics3,4,5:
• begin using substances at a younger age
• enter treatment at a younger age
• are more likely to use multiple drugs (especially marijuana)
• have a higher frequency of use
• are less likely to use alcohol
• report feeling less “addicted” than cocaine users
• are more likely to use methamphetamine continuously throughout the day at evenly
spaced intervals and consistently over time, rather than concentrating use in the
evening as cocaine users tend to do
• use fewer times per day than cocaine users (though the same amount of drug is used)
• spend less money to purchase the drug
• are more likely to be female and Caucasian
Of the total number of individuals admitted to treatment in 2003 for methamphetamine,
45% are women. This percentage of female admissions is higher than the percentage of
female admissions associated with any other drugs except tranquilizers, sedatives and other
opiates (i.e. non-prescription use of methadone, codeine, morphine, oxycodone,
hydromorphone, meperidine, opium, and other drugs with morphine-like effects)
.6
The
implication is that more children are likely to be affected by a parent’s use of
methamphetamine since caretakers are often predominately female.
Compared with male methamphetamine users, female methamphetamine users7,8:
• use methamphetamine more days in a 30-day period
• smoke rather than snort or inject the drug
• are more likely to be single parents who live alone with their children
• have worse medical, psychiatric, and employment profiles

 

[Busylady]

EG just doesn't have the appearance of a meth user. IMO she would be abusing pain meds like oxy.

 

[Soulmagent]

I I see where on Herny's searched areas it just list Joyland as unlikely. Does that mean it has not been searched? I too thought it unlikey but then I read that a fire was put out there on the Feb 13th. I had not seen the fire there mentioned but I could have missed it . The fire made me more interested in it because of the weird maybe injuries on EG hands , I dont even know if the are real ,or not but ya know..

Here is the link for the fire.
http://www.ksn.com/news/local/fire-damages-storage-warehouse-at-wichitas-joyland/1011605418

 

[perfectingpink]

Ms Pink I should have known that you and Mr Pink would have been near that area! I am trying to think if I have any contact that live in there. I think I might. Teehee.


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That would be great! If you do, maybe they could pass out flyers in their neighborhood?

 

[Davia18]

On the meth subject - hate saying this but I had a troubled up bringing and at 14 I tried meth and I hated it. I was scared the entire time, can't sleep, can't eat it was a awful feeling. By 15 I knew who and what I wanted to be so on my own I graduated with my class, married my high school sweat heart whom started beating me by age 16 . Really long story short, I divorced him 2011 and we have 2 children and he choose the road of addiction and meth. I lived my life in daily fear until he went to jail. I have sole custody of my children and we have zero contact with him. In my small town meth is all over the place, it's a terrible drug and I have watched it take many people I went to school with. I would like to think once EG is off it for sometime and can think normal she will give up where Lucas is and what happened to him.

 

[haven71]

Yes me too- but that’s why we are here instead of in jail- I know I don’t have a past of abuse and DV calls on my record- but if I did? I’d be calling someone close to me- closer than anyone else, for help. Especially if I could pin it on an “accident” of some kind. Think about this-she would stand to lose 3 of her own children for good. She would stand to end up in jail. Although all of these things are happening, if you thought you could spin the story, wouldn’t you try??




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Why isn't she trying? Because his body is battered and to admit to an accident and panicked disposal she'd have to lead them to him? Then they'd be able to determine it was homicide? That's what I'm guessing. She thinks she has a better chance of getting off the longer he is not found...

 

[Davia18]

Another thought - is there a reward ?
I'm not a stay at home mom but if I was I'm sure I'd have friends I'd hang out with or speak to daily. I have a handful of friends I check in with every day.
My brain is everywhere but my thought is if there was a reward maybe there is a friend out there whom she said something simple to such as I think something is wrong with Lucas.

 

[Hatfield]

I I see where on Herny's searched areas it just list Joyland as unlikely. Does that mean it has not been searched? I too thought it unlikey but then I read that a fire was put out there on the Feb 13th. I had not seen the fire there mentioned but I could have missed it . The fire made me more interested in it because of the weird maybe injuries on EG hands , I dont even know if the are real ,or not but ya know..

Here is the link for the fire.
http://www.ksn.com/news/local/fire-damages-storage-warehouse-at-wichitas-joyland/1011605418

Good thinking. I could see where this may be a possibility. Like starting a fire to hopefully burn up all evidence. And the amusement park angle to kids.

Hope LE searched the burned out building closely. They were probably not even thinking about a possible body at the time so not sure how thorough the burned out debri would have been searched.

 

[LietKynes]

If it wouldn't be too much, I wanted to ask our VIs about the information regarding Lucas' sickness for those 8 days. Was he observed as being sick by anyone other than EG? Or was this information provided by EG? We are working under the assumption that her story about his disappearance is a lie. I just want to be careful about taking anything else she has said as truth.

RSBM

That ! ^^^^

 

[MissMalowe]

http://www.kake.com/story/37606135/drugs-suspected-in-child-endangerment-case

Emily Glass 2/16/18 Offense Report (from KAKE News on 2/28/18 @ 0:25 mark in the video)

Was this previously posted or am I the only person who overlooked this?
I know we were mulling over the list of reports from another (.gov, I think?) website about an incident with a 26 year old female and the address was "confidential"

Above is Emily Glass's Offense Report and it lists the (the home) 655 S. Edgemoor. under the incident specifics.

The very top is hard to read but it has boxes to check which say
-initial (marked, meaning first report)
-modify
-delete
-add

And the next set of boxes, again hard to read, say:
-On view (marked)
-Citizen
-Dispatched
-Dictated

So the 2/16/18 incident between 4-6pm occured at the family home? Am I literally the last to know this information?

 

[MissMalowe]

If it wouldn't be too much, I wanted to ask our VIs about the information regarding Lucas' sickness for those 8 days. Was he observed as being sick by anyone other than EG? Or was this information provided by EG? We are working under the assumption that her story about his disappearance is a lie. I just want to be careful about taking anything else she has said as truth.

Yes to this!

I have been pondering a polite way to ask about this (as well as other info) but didn't know how to do so without offending our two VIs or giving the impression that they are not thought to be trustworthy or honest, because I believe they definitely are, with the information they are given.

But what also has to be taken into consideration is how many channels does info go through before it gets here? VI and VI FindLucasAllen are in close contact, but FLA is from bio mother's side, correct? She lives out of state and hasn't had much contact with Lucas or the family, and JH/Dad is out of state for work 2/3 of the year, so where is most info originating? From Emily to Dad to BioMom to our VIs?

 

[ScarlettLin]

Another thought - is there a reward ?
I'm not a stay at home mom but if I was I'm sure I'd have friends I'd hang out with or speak to daily. I have a handful of friends I check in with every day.
My brain is everywhere but my thought is if there was a reward maybe there is a friend out there whom she said something simple to such as I think something is wrong with Lucas.

There had been a $2000 reward offered by family (aunt and uncle I think?), a bake sale donated about $850 to it. I also saw a business had donated a $5000 reward for information yesterday but I can’t find the news link now ugh


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[Hatfield]

JMO

Just watched the interview to try to find the hand injuries and could not find it.

IMHO she is full of BS in this interview. You can tell she is lying by how many times she puts her head down in shame.

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/St...pear-in-court-Monday-afternoon-475174883.html

 

[Mamabearto2boys]

http://www.kake.com/story/37606135/drugs-suspected-in-child-endangerment-case

Emily Glass 2/16/18 Offense Report (from KAKE News on 2/28/18 @ 0:25 mark in the video)

Was this previously posted or am I the only person who overlooked this?
I know we were mulling over the list of reports from another (.gov, I think?) website about an incident with a 26 year old female and the address was "confidential"

Above is Emily Glass's Offense Report and it lists the incident as occuring at (the home) 655 S. Edgemoor.

The very top is hard to read but it has boxes to check which say
-initial (marked, meaning first report)
-modify
-delete
-add

And the next set of boxes, again hard to read, say:
-On view (marked)
-Citizen
-Dispatched
-Dictated

So the 2/16/18 incident between 4-6pm occured at the family home. Am I literally the last to know this information?

I’m not following, I’m sorry. If that’s the 2/21 police report (pertaining to the 2/16 endangerment), could her address being listed just be referring to where she was arrested?

 

[Steelslady]

http://www.kake.com/story/37606135/drugs-suspected-in-child-endangerment-case

Emily Glass 2/16/18 Offense Report (from KAKE News on 2/28/18 @ 0:25 mark in the video)

Was this previously posted or am I the only person who overlooked this?
I know we were mulling over the list of reports from another (.gov, I think?) website about an incident with a 26 year old female and the address was "confidential"

Above is Emily Glass's Offense Report and it lists the incident as occuring at (the home) 655 S. Edgemoor.

The very top is hard to read but it has boxes to check which say
-initial (marked, meaning first report)
-modify
-delete
-add

And the next set of boxes, again hard to read, say:
-On view (marked)
-Citizen
-Dispatched
-Dictated

So the 2/16/18 incident between 4-6pm occured at the family home. Am I literally the last to know this information?

Second to last now! :lol: So now we know the answer to that question, however........what could have happened at her home at that time that caused this charge?

 

[PommyMommy]

http://www.kake.com/story/37606135/drugs-suspected-in-child-endangerment-case

Emily Glass 2/16/18 Offense Report (from KAKE News on 2/28/18 @ 0:25 mark in the video)

Was this previously posted or am I the only person who overlooked this?
I know we were mulling over the list of reports from another (.gov, I think?) website about an incident with a 26 year old female and the address was "confidential"

Above is Emily Glass's Offense Report and it lists the incident as occuring at (the home) 655 S. Edgemoor.

The very top is hard to read but it has boxes to check which say
-initial (marked, meaning first report)
-modify
-delete
-add

And the next set of boxes, again hard to read, say:
-On view (marked)
-Citizen
-Dispatched
-Dictated

So the 2/16/18 incident between 4-6pm occured at the family home. Am I literally the last to know this information?

First I've seen it and thank you. Good find!!

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

Last thought until later today:
what person isn't afraid of transporting a dead body?
jmo

The coroner.
A mortician.
That's all I got.
Moo

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[Zelda1010]

http://www.kake.com/story/37606135/drugs-suspected-in-child-endangerment-case

Emily Glass 2/16/18 Offense Report (from KAKE News on 2/28/18 @ 0:25 mark in the video)

Was this previously posted or am I the only person who overlooked this?
I know we were mulling over the list of reports from another (.gov, I think?) website about an incident with a 26 year old female and the address was "confidential"

Above is Emily Glass's Offense Report and it lists the incident as occuring at (the home) 655 S. Edgemoor.

The very top is hard to read but it has boxes to check which say
-initial (marked, meaning first report)
-modify
-delete
-add

And the next set of boxes, again hard to read, say:
-On view (marked)
-Citizen
-Dispatched
-Dictated

So the 2/16/18 incident between 4-6pm occured at the family home. Am I literally the last to know this information?

Nice catch.:yourock::websleuther: