KY KY - Andrea Knabel, 36, mother of two, Audubon Park, Louisville, 13 Aug 2019

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  • #361
From most recent article linked above:
“We do have multiple individuals stating that they have seen Andrea,” said Dan Washington, another investigator with Confidential Investigative Agency.

Washington described the leads as good ones from business owners. They came after releasing a flier with a new photo of Knabel right before she disappeared. A man has also been spotted ripping them down...”
 
  • #362
I personally don't think it has anything to do with them being more concerned about what people think, because the lack of information isn't just personal information, it's everyday general information that could really aid in helping to locate Andrea. As mentioned in posts above how hard would it be to say: Andrea went missing from X address @ date/time, she was walking n/s/e/w on X street towards X direction. It was indicated that she was headed to the area of X. Andrea has X tattoos, she was taking X medication, she frequented X, X, & X areas/places, etc.

From what I've seen the Finding Andrea page had a lot of incorrect information. The telephone numbers for the tip line were cut off/missing/incorrect. There were discrepancies with the last time she was seen/went missing. The photos originally used were made up, when she seemed to weigh less. When the public asked for more current photos they were basically told that the photos that are on the flyers are the only photos available of her. (Then the weird photo of her appeared) No one is saying that there's a need to go into great detail about her personal life, but at least be clear and accurate in the information that you're providing people that are trying to help you locate a missing person.

In MOO it seems that these things (inaccurate/missing information) are almost done purposely. It's been stated that Andrea and her sister were in a fight prior to Andrea becoming missing. If her sister wants her to know how much she's loved and is concerned about what the public thinks, why not release a statement along the lines of "My sister and I had a fight prior to her becoming missing in regards to a disagreement on life choices. I said some things that I shouldn't have said, which I deeply apologize for. If you can hear me, I just want you to know....Please keep your eye out for Andrea. Andrea, please come home." You don't necessarily have to get into the nitty-gritty of it. I find it strange that there were posts on the Missing Andrea page regarding how much Andrea needs to know she's loved, even by those she doesn't even know. I haven't seen her sister publicly acknowledge or apologize for the fight. If they thought it was that important for Andrea to know she is loved, wouldn't you just publicly apologize to bring her home?

Maybe the sister doesn’t want to put her address out there publicly like that in a criminal investigation.
 
  • #363
Is this a "criminal investigation?"
Did I miss something?
 
  • #364
Is this a "criminal investigation?"
Did I miss something?
LMPD has said nothing other than to acknowledge that they received a missing person report.
 
  • #365
This is the only missing case that I have been exposed to that actually has me about to step out of bounds of TOS.
And I respect you all to much and mods and the owner to do that.
I am even long winded with my keyboard.
I appreciate you all.
I want to SCREAM
STOP THE CIRCUS
I am seeing way to many clowns.
On another case close to my heart the victim of murder was just found.
So As I continue to hope this case gets a closure and Andrea is found whatever happens, I have learned a lot on this missing person's sad resent journey of spiral.
Peace to all
Steph/out
 
  • #366
@Portabella we’re you truly off the grid, they couldnt find you?
Yes, I learned fast as I lived a very protected life up until then. I changed my first name to the long version of it, which I was never called by, and changed my last name by putting in for social security (it was easier then) Then got an ID and never stayed in a state for more then a few day for two years, kept moving on. Not a chance they could find me. IMHO
 
  • #367
“We do have multiple individuals stating that they have seen Andrea,” said Dan Washington, another investigator with Confidential Investigative Agency.

Washington described the leads as good ones from business owners. They came after releasing a flier with a new photo of Knabel right before she disappeared. A man has also been spotted ripping them down. WAVE 3 News asked if Washington believes if she is being held against her will.

“Too early to say,” he said. “We don’t know all the circumstances yet.”
Missing Mom Facebook page taken down temporarily after troll harassment
 
  • #368
Maybe the sister doesn’t want to put her address out there publicly like that in a criminal investigation.

I could understand why she wouldn’t want to have her exact address out there for everyone to know. It’d be helpful if they could at least use the street name though. I’m fairly familiar with the streets back there but I’m having trouble visualizing why she would’ve been walking where she was. If she was last seen on fincastle, walking east towards poplar level- most of the other streets would be behind her. So its like she was walking in the opposite direction.

I’m still hoping she’s laying low somewhere, I think that would be the happiest ending to this. I’ve followed so many cases from beginning to end, and they rarely end happily so I’m hoping for that with this one. It’s still not a big story locally. If LMPD would put something out to all the news stations, and get her picture circulating, it would probably be really helpful.
 
  • #369
“We do have multiple individuals stating that they have seen Andrea,” said Dan Washington, another investigator with Confidential Investigative Agency.

Washington described the leads as good ones from business owners. They came after releasing a flier with a new photo of Knabel right before she disappeared. A man has also been spotted ripping them down. WAVE 3 News asked if Washington believes if she is being held against her will.

“Too early to say,” he said. “We don’t know all the circumstances yet.”
Missing Mom Facebook page taken down temporarily after troll harassment

Hinky meter. It would be interesting to find out who the man is that’s been seen ripping the fliers down.
 
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  • #370
It looks like the PI is offering a $1k reward. Maybe that will motivate someone to talk if she’s out on the streets or staying with someone.
 
  • #371
I know you can cancel a lyft ride yourself but they charge a fee. The drivers can also cancel rides, or mark them as no shows. Since they haven’t said much about it, other than the guy was cooperative, I’m not sure what they mean by “didn’t pan out.” Unless maybe they just mean it led to nowhere. I saw where her sister had commented that she frequently used lyft since her car had been totaled last winter.

I'm new to this case and need to read the whole thread. I just thought the mention of the Lyft driver just suggested they were in the area. They could have gone with another person needing a ride. That could rule them out.
 
  • #372
Has the incident with her car been discussed? It was said to have broken down then later been hit and pushed into a ditch. Is there more to this? Could someone have wanted to harm her or get her alone? Or is she just having awful luck?
 
  • #373
Has the incident with her car been discussed? It was said to have broken down then later been hit and pushed into a ditch. Is there more to this? Could someone have wanted to harm her or get her alone? Or is she just having awful luck?

I think she’s had some bad luck. She had left her car on the side of the interstate this past winter when it broke down. She had kids with her so she left it there bc it wasn’t safe for all of them to wait out there. It had snowed, and I saw where she thought maybe a plow had actually hit it as it was coming through and clearing the snow.

A few days ago, on the finding Andrea page, her sister said the lyft driver ended up being a dead end. I know they had talked to the guy they thought could’ve been the one to give her a ride bc they made a post about it early on. I’m not sure how they were able to confirm it wasn’t true though. It’s been almost a month now since she was last seen and they information that’s out has pretty much been the exact same info from the very beginning. I don’t think LMPD is pushing it bc they haven’t been able to determine that an actual crime has been committed. That’s the only reason I can think of as to why LE hasn’t been vocal.
 
  • #374
Yeah well cops didn’t push the savannah spurlock thing and look how that turned out...
She was bound and buried in the back yard.
 
  • #375
If I had to guess I would say she was on a self destructive path and they will end up finding her remains in/around the river. That was one of the first places they looked, right? For some reason this search group posted a couple of photos of her on FB that I can only call weird, for want of a better term. They are said to more nearly show what she looks like now, rather than the younger glamour shots. Her appearance has certainly deteriorated since all these misfortunes came her way...
 
  • #376
Yeah well cops didn’t push the savannah spurlock thing and look how that turned out...
She was bound and buried in the back yard.

I think they acted with a lot more urgency when it came to Savannah’s case. They spoke to media and provided updates when they could. I also think they felt like a crime had occurred, which is why they released that initial surveillance video.

The only time I really see LMPD really get involved in MP cases is when they think the person is in danger. The last one was a few months ago. The guy ended up being located and it turned out he had killed himself :( they were circulating his story and picture in the news and for whatever reason, they aren’t doing the same for Andrea.
 
  • #377
If I had to guess I would say she was on a self destructive path and they will end up finding her remains in/around the river. That was one of the first places they looked, right? For some reason this search group posted a couple of photos of her on FB that I can only call weird, for want of a better term. They are said to more nearly show what she looks like now, rather than the younger glamour shots. Her appearance has certainly deteriorated since all these misfortunes came her way...

Yeh they had searched beargrass creek behind Fincastle apartments bc there had been flash flooding that night. It looks like they also searched down where beargrass creek lets out into the Ohio, which is actually pretty smart. I don’t think she’s in the river though. As much traffic that goes up and down the river, I think someone would’ve found her.
 
  • #378
If I had to guess I would say she was on a self destructive path and they will end up finding her remains in/around the river. That was one of the first places they looked, right? For some reason this search group posted a couple of photos of her on FB that I can only call weird, for want of a better term. They are said to more nearly show what she looks like now, rather than the younger glamour shots. Her appearance has certainly deteriorated since all these misfortunes came her way...
The photos are odd to me in that she obviously used Snapchat etc for some of them but in half she looks like a college student. Are those photos even remotely recent? You would never recognize what she looks like now based on those photos.
 
  • #379
How about a clear picture that’s recent?

In the weeks prior to her disappearance, she might have gone to the following places that have cameras?
•Her sister’s house
•Her parent’s house (Ring doorbell?)
•Hospital/Doctor/Pharmacy
•Convenience Store
•Grocery Store
•Bank or other financial institution

A lot of these places haves cameras at the point of sale/cash register.

Without a vehicle how was she making money to pay rent and take care of her children? eBay? Craigslist?

Did she have places she frequented? What was her usual daily routine?
 
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