Kyron's parents' statements, interviews

[scandi]

I don't think Kaine will admit to knowing much about how Terri was feeling inside in recent months; he is surely already questioning himself, hourly, but if he comes and out and says that he knew she was wacked, then why was he allowing her full and unsupervised access to the kids? His lawyer may have even advised him to stay away from admitting that he knew much about any issues or resentments she had going on.

One can help with using state of the art technology in building a science project. The love is there too. Is that what it amounts to when everything else is falling down around you in a happy and productive family relationship? No one wants to talk about that in this case!

Kids are tough. They survive, right? I simply feel they need every advantage possible in life. And the Horman house was like it was waiting for a disaster to happen at any moment. Especially when the SM might have had some serious problems and the father was said to be looking for happiness elsewhere. xox IMO

 

[SmoothOperator]

Desiree says it ALL. They have been told about the witnesses acct of what was seen. And according to Desiree which If I HAD TO(Was forced to)put ALL of my eggs in one basket it 100% without a shadow of a doubt would be DESIREE'S BASKET. Here's a couple of really quick and really valid reasons why...

Desiree has nothing to hide. Meaning in all of this there is NOTHING for her to hide or fear that is going to be brought forward, what I am saying is that there have very publicly been multiple allegations of Kaine's cheating(and as past history shows per Desiree he's been guilty of it before)
***CLARIFICATION HERE-> In no way, shape or form am I blaming Kaine and certainly NOT implying his involvement in the disappearance. I am only stating that by the things that have been alleged per Desiree and Terri that Kaine COULD have some things that he necessarily would NOT brought to the publics knowledge***

Therefor IMO Kaine will always be leary of what is being released, going to be released, or even discussed about being released now or in the future NOT because he is involved in Kyrons disappearance but because some of the very unwanted skeletons could be coming out of his deep closet( imo being more cautious about what comes out to the public because of NOT knowing what that info might uncover or lead to )..

Desiree though doesnt have anything to hide. Yes she suffered kidney failure from taking NON FDA approved meds(IMO probably a dietary supplement) that turned her world upside down not to mention pretty darn close to losing her entire life and dying. And had to move to Canada to seek medical treatment and that upon returning and having to get back on her feet physically, not even speaking of monetarily, she had to live with her parents. When she was ABLE to regain custody of Kyron, Kaine[with possibly Terri's input as well]decided it best that the custody stay with Kaine&Terri and if anyone knows anything about family law and dads these days , well courts don't automatically side with moms so if it had been a good amt of time that Desiree spent fighting and regaining her life it very well may be in the courts opinion that Kyron did not need to be uprooted once again. Thereby leaving Desiree as non-custodial parent with ample visitation rights.. So all in all from the knowledge that we know IMO Desiree has nothing to hide and as a desperate momma to find her baby boy she has nothing to lose therefor I am going to(if had to choose) put my eggs in her basket, meaning I'm going to take her at her word...

And Desiree's word was that Kyron was seen outside of the school in or near the the Horman truck with the "unidentified person"(as Desiree pointed this alone does not add up with Terri's outlined time of events). The "unidentified person" we've heard about per an eye witness that when asked Desiree DOES INDEED FIND CREDIBLE..

THIS IMO IS THE BIGGEST{although possibly scariest}INFO THAT WE HAVE LEARNED IN A VERY LONG TIME.. JMO

 

[scandi]

[/B]BBM. That part was the most significant info gained from these interviews (and I think I watched them all). Seems Kyron was seen outside the school, near the truck, and someone else was inside the truck - and if true, that contradicts Terri's timeline. WOW!!

ETA: The reporter even mentioned a "man" in the truck at one point.

Hi Jules, Makes one wonder if it was a family member that we might not expect to be there, or else a LS'er. Possibilities abound, eh?

 

[scandi]

Good catch, it's at the end of the second part. It sounded to me like the reporter had heard that info too. Kaine said it was a tip, and that the veracity of the tip still has to be fully determined. So someone says that Kyron was seen by the truck with an unknown person maybe in the truck. Desiree said that if true it would contradict Terri's timeline (did she send him out to the truck while she was inside?) and that it means Kyron saw stuff that he shouldn't have (maybe she just meant Kyron being around an unidentified person).

Here is the link to part 2:

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kaine-Horman--Desiree-Young-827-pt-2-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.html

Edit: Desiree asks why would Kyron even be outside the school, near a truck with somebody else in it. She says if the timeline plays out the way it supposedly did then it contradicts Terri's story. Kaine says they've been briefed on tips and until it's been confirmed and brought to the public he's not going to maintain a sense of false hope that it's real info, until LE says it's airtight.

Hi Chili Fries, Do you read that as saying that another person was driving the white truck at that point when Kyron got in it {or was seen beside it with possibly a man inside it}, and that Terri got into a second car. And that is what happened to Kyron? :waitasec:

 

[txsvicki]

I have wondered what caused Desiree's kidney failure, but must have missed reports that it was due to non FDA approved meds. Wow, I still wonder if they're sure that's what it was.

 

[Donjeta]

Kaine seems to think there is some ulterior motive to leak the emails.

 

[sorrell skye]

One can help with using state of the art technology in building a science project. The love is there too. Is that what it amounts to when everything else is falling down around you in a happy and productive family relationship? No one wants to talk about that in this case!

Kids are tough. They survive, right? I simply feel they need every advantage possible in life. And the Horman house was like it was waiting for a disaster to happen at any moment. Especially when the SM might have had some serious problems and the father was said to be looking for happiness elsewhere. xox IMO

TY for articulating this Scandi.

 

[Donjeta]

From the interview:

BBM

Kaine: [...] how she was I guess apparently unhappy with our marriage but yet not willing to work through it or talk to me about it.

Reporter: What was she unhappy about?

Kaine: I don't know. She wasn't talking to me about it.

IMHO, he's not saying he was unaware of the source of her unhappiness but he was unaware she was unhappy at all. The first part, "how she was I guess apparently" indicates he didn't know she was unhappy prior to Kyron's disappearance but became aware as a result of the revelations that followed.

I'm open to alternative interpretations because IMO saying she wasn't "willing to work through it or talk" to him about it may imply that there were some attempts made to try and get her to work through it or talk about it. However, either way it didn't work out that well so I don't know if it matters.

 

[scandi]

TY for articulating this Scandi.

You're Welcome Sorrell, It is an unpopular opinion I am sure but don't care as I'm done being nice. When I watch Desiree and Kaine on TV I respect them as victims but don't hold them faultless at all with what eventually led to Kyron's disappearance. I think the stage was set for a disaster !!!

 

[ThoughtFox]

Hi ThoughtFox, I know that Kaine and Desiree are victims here and I respect that. Not minimizing any part Terri might possibly have had in Kyron's disappearance, I still think they both played a part in what led up to him being taken.

As I read it, other things must have been more important than Kyron's welfare and happiness. If he pleaded with Desiree to stay with her and she sent him back anyway. . . . . If his Dad was not faithful to his stepmom Terri, even adoring Kyron as he did. . . . . They both put their own needs first, and nothing added up to putting Kyron first as he should have been. A 7 year old, helpless and cast against the wind, to make do of it, which is all that he could do.

God Bless Kyron wherever he is tonight. And also blessings given to every other child on earth who is in the same position thst Kyron was on the day he disappeared. xox

Scandi: Don't misunderstand me - I don't think all the parents are blameless at all. I agree that a case can be made that Kyron was having trouble thanks to many decisions that were out of his control.

(Although I don't think we know that Kaine was being unfaithful - that's a rumor - but the sexting by TH is a fact of the case - so to me, she was being unfaithful to her husband - JMOO)

D and K are Kyron's biological parents and they are suffering. At least Terri knows where her children are and that they are alive. That's the distinction in my mind.

 

[scandi]

Scandi: Don't misunderstand me - I don't think all the parents are blameless at all. I agree that a case can be made that Kyron was having trouble thanks to many decisions that were out of his control.

(Although I don't think we know that Kaine was being unfaithful - that's a rumor - but the sexting by TH is a fact of the case - so to me, she was being unfaithful to her husband - JMOO)

D and K are Kyron's biological parents and they are suffering. At least Terri knows where her children are and that they are alive. That's the distinction in my mind.

Very well put ThoughtFox, and I do agree with what you say, especially that with which makes a distinction in your mind. I am puzzled as to why he didn't counter her claim of his infidelity, but it could have been directed by his attorney to ignore it. If it was true, it could have been the subject and cause for their argument on the evening of the 3rd, possibly leading to the clarification of a motive. That is if Terri is involved.

I think of all the kids living out there in a similar situation as Kyron did, where it seems like the family had it all and nothing could have been that askew, and only pray that their parents read about this case and learn from it.

 

[Donjeta]

[/B]BBM. That part was the most significant info gained from these interviews (and I think I watched them all). Seems Kyron was seen outside the school, near the truck, and someone else was inside the truck - and if true, that contradicts Terri's timeline. WOW!!

ETA: The reporter even mentioned a "man" in the truck at one point.

Exactly. WOW!!

It got me hopeful that Kyron might actually be alive and come home but at the same time I get a sick feeling about what Desiree said about the contents of the emails, the way she looked.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Very well put ThoughtFox, and I do agree with what you say, especially that with which makes a distinction in your mind. I am puzzled as to why he didn't counter her claim of his infidelity, but it could have been directed by his attorney to ignore it. If it was true, it could have been the subject and cause for their argument on the evening of the 3rd, possibly leading to the clarification of a motive. That is if Terri is involved.

I think of all the kids living out there in a similar situation as Kyron did, where it seems like the family had it all and nothing could have been that askew, and only pray that their parents read about this case and learn from it.

Me too, Scandi! :blowkiss:

 

[scandi]

Me too, Scandi! :blowkiss:

Ya Ya, It always reminds me of The Dinasaurs, and 'you gotta love the baby'. . . . Just a happy thought about how helpless children are so they should be specially loved .

Off to bed, see you tomoz xox

 

[Donjeta]

Maybe because she was talking s**t behind his back. How would he know that if no one else told him she was doing it?

He refers to Terri putting her spin on things in a way that makes me feel he might think her spin is a bit inaccurate. Just a feeling I get, IMO he looks like holding back anger and contempt when he's talking about it.

It might be out and out lies or just different perspectives, dunno. Married couples quite frequently both think that they have excellent reasons for thinking that the other is full of ****.

 

[Karen Anne RN]

Check out the KGW interview: http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horma...-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.html

At the very end the reporter mentions the white truck and asks Desiree to talk about that. She mentions that there was a tip that someone saw Kyron OUTSIDE the school near the truck with another person. She says if this is true, it does not fit with TH's timeline. Kaine kind of cuts her off and says LE is checking into it and they don't want to confirm anything.

I think this could be huge. Come discuss in the other thread.

I saw that too. She indicates that it is a man, and that the person who reported it is "very credible."

I didn't see another thread on this, though

 

[Morag]

...snip...Edit: Desiree asks why would Kyron even be outside the school, near a truck with somebody else in it. She says if the timeline plays out the way it supposedly did then it contradicts Terri's story. Kaine says they've been briefed on tips and until it's been confirmed and brought to the public he's not going to maintain a sense of false hope that it's real info, until LE says it's airtight.

BBM

Did she say "a" truck, or "the" truck?

If she said "a", then that is most interesting! Also interesting if she said "the"!

 

[BeanE]

I'm flummoxed by a number of things in these interviews. Kaine and Desiree seem unable, over time, to decide how things are, and how they were. I've no doubt with the trauma they have suffered, that their thoughts race 100 miles an hour, that desperate fast kind of panicked thinking, that if any of you have suffered a severe trauma and shock, will know what I'm talking about.

It makes it hard, though, for those of us trying to determine what happened to Kyron, to figure things out. Was it this way? Or was it that way? Or in a few weeks is it going to be another way?

Kaine had no clue Terri was unhappy. Desiree had no clue Terri was unhappy.

But Kaine has said how he and Terri have had their rough patches in recent times, and that they've discussed separation and divorce. In those conversations, was Terri not saying what she was unhappy about?

And Desiree. I was so surprised when she said she had no idea that anything was wrong, and no idea what Terri is angry about. What about those emails? The ones she said that Terri wrote to her, long emails, full of complaints, about Kaine and about "everything"?

I think to figure out what happened to Kyron, we need to look at the conflicts, and try to figure them out, and figure out what they could mean. It can be done clinically, analytically, with no bashing, and no character judgments, if people commit to doing it that way, and if people recognize that making an observation is not making a character judgement or bashing.

:cow: :twocents:

ETA: my interview references may be for other videos and I may well be in the wrong thread again lol.

 

[stmarysmead]

Good Morning BeanE,

I'm going to weigh in on your excellent observation.

I am an emotional person married to a very analytical man (for a long time I might add.)

It took a long while for me to realize my husband could not discern when one of my "storms" was serious or when I was just having a bad day. I also learned not to throw around ultimatums using the big words like "divorce" because, unless I had my bags packed, I was training his analytical mind to dismiss my threats. Sort of like running a lab test that looks one way...but never materializes.

I wonder if Kaine saw Terri as generally happy...because although there were "storms"...life went on, she was equally perky and affectionate on other days...and he just put her "storms" down to baby blues, frustration, whatever. Because the results she threatened when angry never materialized.

Maybe, she often threw around "divorce" during arguments...but then, was seemingly content when the storm passed. Maybe, she even told him "Oh I was just so frustrated yesterday" and as an Analytical...he would again look at the "results."

She stayed.

Their little family continued. Therefore,her angry words were not "significant." Analyticals like my husband almost need an owner's manual to live with an emotional person. Mr. Spock married to the Drama Queen.

Kaine thought he understood Terri's patterns. He could honestly have thought she was happy.

Then chaos.

When Kyron disappeared and LE presented him with the Murder for Hire accusation... as an Analytical, he is now re-evaluating the data. Everything. Examining every word, deed. He is trying to make sense of it. I bet it's tough for him.

Using my lab experiment, every other time, there were predictable patterns of results: the family continued. He thought Terri was just an emotional woman and he had to just "ride the waves."

But this one time, the whole lab explodes, everything shatters...it's horrific , chaotic, and Kaine is trying to get his mind around it. What was different this time? What did he not see?

So some days, he sees it one way...some days another...because he was so blindsided he doesn't get it. And as an Analytical, he is less comfortable with or facile with analyzing emotions.

Anyway, just my two cents.

 

[TxLady2]

Maybe Kaine is like my hubby. I could be unhappy with something but it would take a lot of explaining for him to understand just what it is, because he listens but he doesn't hear. He knows, or believes, that whatever it is, is not his fault, so he tunes me out. Frustrating. I would have to make a list, for him to "get" it.
I get the impression... and I could be completely wrong... that when Desiree is talking and giving all these explanations, and how she feels in her heart that Terri knows where Kyron is, etc., etc.... that Kaine is somewhat embarrassed, he is not in full agreement with everything his ex-wife is saying, not that he discounts it, just that he hasn't accepted it completely. I have the feeling that he would still have been clueless if Desiree and Tony had kept their suspicions to themselves and not had the foresight to point out all Terri's discrepancies to him those first few days.
I know it must be painful to realize that you've lived with someone, been married to them, had a child with them.... and be told that person likely disappeared your child and possibly may have killed the child. That would be enough to drive me over the edge of a cliff....... literally. I feel so bad for both of them right now.