Kyron's parents' statements, interviews

[Donjeta]

If that was the case, wouldn't she have "hidden" baby K as well? I don't know how Kyron could have needed protection but the baby didn't.

MOO
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IMO it depends slightly upon who or what Kyron supposedly needed protection from. He and the baby move in slightly different circles. The baby would probably have a more restricted circle of people due to her age, just people known to Kaine and/or Terri. Kyron knew people from the school and his hobbies and he had contacts through his visits with DY that the baby wouldn't have.

If it was about protecting Kyron IMO LE would probably have a pretty good idea because it doesn't seem likely to me that abducting Kyron was Terri's first plan. I would probably try at least talking to his father and mother, talking to other people, getting professional help, trying to restrict his access to the people I thought dangerous, appealing to the proper authorities, reporting a crime, trying to get a restraining order filed for etc. before I could be convinced that a serious risky crime like abduction was my only choice.

 

[Donjeta]

http://portlandtribune.com/news/story_2nd.php?story_id=128293469651541900

In late June, Kaine filed for divorce, citing among other things an alleged plot to kill him that investigators said was discussed by Terri Horman and a landscaper. The plot never went beyond talk, investigators said.


Holy carp, that's the only time I've seen that actually admitted. So what? the landscaper and TH were foolin' around and she said something like gee, I can't stand my husband anymore, I'd give a million bucks of he were dead, and the ls says want me to do it? Good grief, I hope they have more than something like that for opening up this can of worms!

I actually thought we knew it already that it didn't go beyond words. At least that's how I had it figured out in my head. Obviously Kaine is not dead yet so the plan was not carried out and if LE knew that she gave him money to kill her husband I imagine they would both be arrested for conspiracy to commit murder or whatever the crime is.

 

[PDXMom]

Ok, I'm a little slow today. Was the video of Desiree & Kaine it for today? Are they still conducting the one-on-one interviews with various media outlets, or did those get cancelled?

 

[Billylee]

Why do you think she wanted to emphasize that it was not a LE approved statement?

My guess is that LE doesn't want to say they think TH kidnapped Kyron and is holding him. That would mean they are naming her as a suspect. So Desiree made it clear it is her opinion.

 

[MarieFaith]

I don't know, if she knew she had said something to the LS that could be "construed as a MFHP" then wouldn't she be wise to just get an attorney and go from there? If she challenged the RO, then she would have to PROVE that she didn't really mean it. How could she do that?

ETA As it stands, that ball is now in LE's hands to prove that SHE did mean it and apparently they cannot, or she'd be in jail.

Sorry, I don't know how to snip, but I want to address your last sentence.

It seems to me that not arresting Terri for the MFH plot is either part of their strategy (hoping that more info may arise if she is free), or just a decision based on practicality. Once a person is arrested in Oregon (someone correct me if I'm wrong), they have to be brought to trial in 60 days. LE is more concerned about Kyron and does not want to be sidetracked into an event of lesser importance.

 

[Emma Peel]

I'll betcha Kaine knows what Terri is mad about.
and...
I'll betcha Desiree knows that Kaine knows what Terri is mad about.
and...
THAT, my friends, was the elephant in that interview room.

IMO, with a :cow: :cow: here and a :cow: :cow: there.

 

[RoughlyCollie]

BBM. I couldn't watch the interview yet but your post made me think it might be about giving Terri an out to save her face. You know, if it was out of her control it wasn't really her fault at all...

I think what is out of TH's control is that she may eventually receive a life sentence or the death penalty.

 

[Billylee]

I actually thought we knew it already that it didn't go beyond words. At least that's how I had it figured out in my head. Obviously Kaine is not dead yet so the plan was not carried out and if LE knew that she gave him money to kill her husband I imagine they would both be arrested for conspiracy to commit murder or whatever the crime is.

I may be wrong, but that is the first time I've seen or heard them (LE) say that. Doesn't mean we didn't all think it. That also tells me the GJ is most likely not looking at that anymore, because it simply would become a matter of he said/she said. Also, even though the deed was not accomplished, we didn't know for sure whether any kind of say, stalking had gone on, etc, or whatever to further the "talk". Now we know, it was all just "talk". Again, I think she'd be in jail already if they were able to prove "intent". To me a murder-for-hire-plan is just that "a plan" and apparently there wasn't one.....just talk. At least that's the way I take it.

 

[MarieFaith]

I may be wrong, but that is the first time I've seen or heard them (LE) say that. Doesn't mean we didn't all think it. That also tells me the GJ is most likely not looking at that anymore, because it simply would become a matter of he said/she said. Also, even though the deed was not accomplished, we didn't know for sure whether any kind of say, stalking had gone on, etc, or whatever to further the "talk". Now we know, it was all just "talk". Again, I think she'd be in jail already if they were able to prove "intent". To me a murder-for-hire-plan is just that "a plan" and apparently there wasn't one.....just talk. At least that's the way I take it.

Then why didn't Terri challenge the restraining order???

I'm just asking; not trying to be argumentative. I just can't imagine any reason why she would not challenge it except that the "talk" was pretty serious, ...and/or maybe could even shed some light somehow on the later disappearance of Kyron. Just speculating.

 

[stmarysmead]

Just some random thoughts.

It's clear from whatever they have been told that Desiree and Kaine have no doubt Teri is involved in this.

It is also clear that they love Kyron. I simply cannot believe there is anything more important to them than finding that boy.

In other words, there's a time for jealousy, for settling old scores, all that stupid stuff we humans waste our time on...but not when our child is ar risk.

I just can't believe, for example, with Desiree being married to someone in LE...that she would stand by and let this investigation ignore other leads and focus on Terri...if she didn't believe with all her heart that it was Terri.

I am convinced when we hear what the Elephant in the Living Room is...the focus on Terri will be more than justified.

Because Desiree's love for Kyron believes it to be so.

 

[debs]

I'll betcha Kaine knows what Terri is mad about.
and...
I'll betcha Desiree knows that Kaine knows what Terri is mad about.
and...
THAT, my friends, was the elephant in that interview room.

IMO, with a :cow: :cow: here and a :cow: :cow: there.

I couldn't have moo'd that better myself.

 

[gitana1]

Then why didn't Terri challenge the restraining order???

I'm just asking; not trying to be argumentative. I just can't imagine any reason why she would not challenge it except that the "talk" was pretty serious, ...and/or maybe could even shed some light somehow on the later disappearance of Kyron. Just speculating.

Probably because she did not want to risk incriminating herself regarding the disappearance of Kyron. Everyone keeps talking about the MFH but I believe her possible involvement in the disappearance of Kyron is really what is at stake. And that was also part of the RO allegations, not just the MFH.

 

[Billylee]

Then why didn't Terri challenge the restraining order???

I'm just asking; not trying to be argumentative. I just can't imagine any reason why she would not challenge it except that the "talk" was pretty serious, ...and/or maybe could even shed some light somehow on the later disappearance of Kyron. Just speculating.

Yes this is all just talk too! LOL See my post 41 on the previous page. That's just what I think could have been the reason, her attorney could answer the question better than I.

 

[stmarysmead]

I couldn't have moo'd that better myself.

Yes, I think that's possible.

Maybe Kaine has been cheating. He did it before.

But what kind of a woman does it make Terri to take her fury out on an innocent child?

Even if Kyron is alive, is being fed steak and ice cream sundaes...and given a new video game every day, he must be terrified by now. He must want desperately to come home. What kind of woman could do that to a little boy to punish her husband?

 

[Billylee]

Probably because she did not want to risk incriminating herself regarding the disappearance of Kyron. Everyone keeps talking about the MFH but I believe her possible involvement in the disappearance of Kyron is really what is at stake. And that was also part of the RO allegations, not just the MFH.

Does the RO allege that she is involved in the disappearance of Kyron? I must go find it. Oh, wait, it's a secret isn't it? Where is Michael Cook when I need him? Seriously, is that information out there, I hadn't seen it?

 

[cluciano63]

If there was no murder for hire plan...then I may have to come down from my fence, because that is the main reason (guilt from that) that I could see why she has let this all go on for so long, losing so much. If it was no more than a remark made in passing to the landscaper when she was mad at Kaine one day, then she should be fighting the RO. So to me, either she felt unable to defend herself against the landscaper's words, or she has much to hide concerning Kyron.

I wish LE would clear up the MFH business once and for all so I can decide
I know they don't mean to leave me in limbo like this

 

[debs]

Does the RO allege that she is involved in the disappearance of Kyron? I must go find it. Oh, wait, it's a secret isn't it? Where is Michael Cook when I need him? Seriously, is that information out there, I hadn't seen it?

Kaine states that LE has given him reason to believe she attempted a MFH plot, and he believes that she is responsible for the disappearance of his son.

 

[Billylee]

Yes, I think that's possible.

Maybe Kaine has been cheating. He did it before.

But what kind of a woman does it make Terri to take her fury out on an innocent child?

Even if Kyron is alive, is being fed steak and ice cream sundaes...and given a new video game every day, he must be terrified by now. He must want desperately to come home. What kind of woman could do that to a little boy to punish her husband?

Who said she took anything out on Kyron? Maybe she's just hidden him with someone who loves him.

 

[21merc7]

Kaine states that LE has given him reason to believe she attempted a MFH plot, and he believes that she is responsible for the disappearance of his son.

Okay, so, let us say, I am angry with someone for some reason, who cares, meaningless or not.

I am talking with a somewhat stranger, but have seen this person before. I say, "I am so upset I could just kill him!" or "I am so upset I could just choke him!" I may even use hand gestures.

I am crying and the stranger/yet not so stranger, is listening. I am still crying, not a breath between statements and I add, "I would give you a million dollars to kill him!" I continue to cry. Stranger just nods and moves on.

Is that a murder for hire plot? Or just me speaking my emotional mind at the time?

 

[rnmif]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_hormans_parents_plan_fun.html

Snipped:

"The statement ended a short news conference at a hotel in Beaverton with Kyron's dad, Kaine Horman. The couple said they decided to speak to media now -- even though they have no big news to announce -- to keep Kyron's story alive."

This is frustrating.

Yes.

Short of my life, or my family, I would give everything I have, everything I own, everything I might ever own, to bring her little boy back to her.

I know this won't make sense to most people, but I would give my horse. I've waited 30+ years for her, I rescued her, I put weight back on her, I sat in her pasture for hours on end and gained her trust, and we bonded. Only my family is more important to me.

If somehow my giving her up would bring Kyron home, I wouldn't think twice.

I wish there were *something* I could do.

I hate looking at Desiree's face. I can't stand it. And it's *nothing* compared to what is going on inside.

I would say, once again how wrong this all is, but it makes wrong such a horribly insignificant word.

ARG!!!!!

Please come home, sweet little boy.

I listen to her voice and cry until my eyes want to bleed they are so raw. It's so useless. There has to be something more.

It looks like we're not leaving until after the fundraisers and his birthday, so maybe that. It's small, but it's something to do. You know us moms... we go crazy without something to do.

Thanks for the link.