Kyron's parents' statements, interviews

[debs]

Re: the emails.

D: some of the emails were concerning to me. They're significant in the case; I can't really talk too much about content or anything of that nature but it wasn't a surprise I don't think to any of us, because we know how much Terri relies on her computer and interactions with emails and things.... it just, some of it, the content is... um... concerning. Very.... I can't even put a word to it... just makes me sick to my stomach.

K: I haven't looked at all the ones released... the ones I have seen, I don't understand why they've been released, I don't understand why they're in the news. The fact that they were emailed by Terri is the only reason that I can get from other people as to why they're out there. They don't do much, they don't say anything other than people releasing or leaking information so that they can get it on the news. I would like to know who's releasing those; I mean they really have no business doing that in the first place, and I think it's just a distraction... something that once again puts the spotlight on her... I think it's an attention thing... I think it is completely intentional, and in my mind it is completely unnecessary. There is no need to have that stuff out there, it doesn't really further anything...

It seems to me he's very upset that he can't control this aspect; that there are people who don't consult him about what they know.

I frankly agree that whoever leaked those emails of Terri's was doing it for attention....except we don't know who did it. Personally, I believe whoever did it was paid. That's not the same as attention; that's mercenary.

 

[eyes4crime]

ttp://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128293469651541900

In late June, Kaine filed for divorce, citing among other things an alleged plot to kill him that investigators said was discussed by Terri Horman and a landscaper. The plot never went beyond talk, investigators said. snip

Basically this MFH scenario, if it never went beyond words, is hearsay.

Does LE have a 'duty to warn'? Psychologists have a duty to warn based on the Tarasoff law, but does it apply to LE. Anyone know? TIA

 

[SurfieTX]

I've been thinking about this and wondering a few things. First of all, LE is being very, very protective of the info that they have. I can't imagine that they would want or allow DY and TH to do Q&A with the press without first being very, very well prepared and rehearsed.

Which brings me to my next thought, I wonder if LE knows exactly what happened and how, but does not have any eye witnesses to corroborate, but they are leaking false eye witness statements via DY to lead Terri to believe that they know more than they do and have her cornered.

I'm trying really, really hard to believe that there is method to this madness.

 

[CathyinTexas]

Re: the emails.

D: some of the emails were concerning to me. They're significant in the case; I can't really talk too much about content or anything of that nature but it wasn't a surprise I don't think to any of us, because we know how much Terri relies on her computer and interactions with emails and things.... it just, some of it, the content is... um... concerning. Very.... I can't even put a word to it... just makes me sick to my stomach.

K: I haven't looked at all the ones released... the ones I have seen, I don't understand why they've been released, I don't understand why they're in the news. The fact that they were emailed by Terri is the only reason that I can get from other people as to why they're out there. They don't do much, they don't say anything other than people releasing or leaking information so that they can get it on the news. I would like to know who's releasing those; I mean they really have no business doing that in the first place, and I think it's just a distraction... something that once again puts the spotlight on her... I think it's an attention thing... I think it is completely intentional, and in my mind it is completely unnecessary. There is no need to have that stuff out there, it doesn't really further anything...

Are we referring to emails in which Terri mentioned KH's absent seizures, and described his behavior? If so, why would that sicken Desiree? If not, do you know which emails Kaine is referring to. Is he getting upset because it might make her look "better" to the public, and that is why he said it is putting attention on her?

 

[SurfieTX]

Are we referring to emails in which Terri mentioned KH's absent seizures, and described his behavior? If so, why would that sicken Desiree? If not, do you know which emails Kaine is referring to. Is he getting upset because it might make her look "better" to the public, and that is why he said it is putting attention on her?

I think Desiree is referring to emails that LE has in their possession, which have not been released to the public.

I think the emails that Kaine is referring to are the ones from June 5th or 6th about Kyron's seizures, her timeline, receipts, etc. Those, it appears, were leaked by either Terri or one of Terri's friends.

 

[eyes4crime]

I think Desiree is referring to emails that LE has in their possession, which have not been released to the public.

I think the emails that Kaine is referring to are the ones from June 5th or 6th about Kyron's seizures, her timeline, receipts, etc. Those, it appears, were leaked by either Terri or one of Terri's friends.

Can't imagine how Desiree would have access to e-mails that LE have. They don't usually share that kind of information. Maybe Desiree thinks she has more information than most because her husband is LE. But if she does, that's going to severely impede this investigation and if it ever goes to trial, could be used by the defense. I think Desiree needs to be careful. moo

 

[mmmagique]

ttp://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128293469651541900

In late June, Kaine filed for divorce, citing among other things an alleged plot to kill him that investigators said was discussed by Terri Horman and a landscaper. The plot never went beyond talk, investigators said. snip

Basically this MFH scenario, if it never went beyond words, is hearsay.

Does LE have a 'duty to warn'? Psychologists have a duty to warn based on the Tarasoff law, but does it apply to LE. Anyone know? TIA

I'm guessing that if LE comes across a credible mfh plot, they are going to warn the person. One reason being that if the mfh plot actually happens and it gets out LE knew anything about it and failed to warn, they could be looking at wrongful death lawsuits and a very tarnished reputation.

 

[grandmaj]

OK Peeps please start breaking your discuss out into topics. There threads will be closing.

 

[grandmaj]

We are closing these news threads from yesterday and would like for you to break your discussions out into topic threads... that way if we go to look for the information later it is topic related not hidden in a news thread.

 

[loves2bmom]

I don't know if the video is different now than it was when this was posted, but they only had one little snippet with Desiree saying she didn't think Terri would do the right thing and she thought more of her before this all started. Did the video change?

I swear there was more to it last night but I could just be mixing up my interviews because there were so many. I think there is plenty to talk about with the other channels coverage. KOIN missed the boat on this one....their loss!

 

[Billylee]

Since the other threads are closed, I just want to say, please BeanE don't fire the transcriber! We'd be lost without her!

 

[Kimster]

We are closing these news threads from yesterday and would like for you to break your discussions out into topic threads... that way if we go to look for the information later it is topic related not hidden in a news thread.

 

[cypress]

Desiree and Kaine have stated numerous times that they believe Kyron is alive. They've stated numerous times that Terri had help. Terri does not have Kyron. Dede Spicher does not have Kyron. Operating off Desiree and Kaine's belief system about this case, someone else has to be involved. Someone other than Terri and Dede has Kyron.

If Desiree and Kaine believe Terri orchestrated Kyron's kidnapping, in all likelihood, Terri wouldn't know where he is now. If Terri was in contact with her accomplice, certainly the FBI would've uncovered their correspondence. If she used the batphones, she may have had been able to reach her accomplice by phone for a short amount of time, but her batphone isn't a batphone anymore. One would have to assume that she's no longer in contact with whomever is holding Kyron. She's certainly not in control of the situation at this point.

If you believe Terri is guilty, as Desiree and Kaine do, it's apparent Terri isn't going to confess. If you believe Dede Spicher is involved, as Desiree and Kaine do, it's obvious she's not going to confess. Why are Desiree and Kaine not appealing to the person or persons who have Kyron? Why not use every available media opportunity to plead for his return?

 

[pufnstuf]

"I know it sounds weird coming from his father," he said, "but this is something that can’t be rushed.”

Kaine waited for his daughter Baby K. to take a nap and then took some time out from his Sunday to talk over the phone with KGW.

“I know people want an arrest. I know they want this thing to move along but what people need to remember is that the minute there is an arrest, the minute there are charges, the clock starts ticking and no one can afford to make a mistake.

“If we’re not ready, if there are holes, that would be tragic. We can’t afford to let whoever was responsible to get away with it.

“We have to be patient.”

MORE: http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Kaine-Horman-Please-be-patient-about-Kyron-case-104245979.html

 

[craftybatchy]

Whoever was responsible for ____________________________ ?

I wish he had expounded on that part. Notably, he did NOT state

*Terri was responsible*.

 

[scotslass]

"Asked about the emotional press conference that his ex-wife, Desiree, held at the Wall of Hope on Friday, Kaine said “I understand her raw emotion. It shows how deeply felt this is for all of us. I don’t necessarily feel or believe the exact same things but I absolutely understand it. It’s been four months. He’s still not home. We still don’t know where he is. We want him to come home. We want to know where he is.”

Kaine did say that Desiree’s press conference did do one thing that was unattended – cause confusion."

I wish he just remained united behind DY and said she did what she thought she needed to do and leave it at that.. saying he doesn't necessarily believe the same things just opens up so many interpretations...

I wondering if he is starting to waiver on his stance that Kyron is being held somewhere

 

[momtective]

My heart just breaks for Kaine, I can't even begin to imagine how hard this is for him. We all want Kyron home, we all want this to end; but none as much as Kaine and here he is telling us to be patient. What a guy! Kaine, you have my deepest respect Sir.

 

[Charlie09]

"I know it sounds weird coming from his father," he said, "but this is something that can’t be rushed.”

Kaine waited for his daughter Baby K to take a nap and then took some time out from his Sunday to talk over the phone with KGW.

“I know people want an arrest. I know they want this thing to move along but what people need to remember is that the minute there is an arrest, the minute there are charges, the clock starts ticking and no one can afford to make a mistake.

“If we’re not ready, if there are holes, that would be tragic. We can’t afford to let whoever was responsible to get away with it.

“We have to be patient.”

MORE: http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Kaine-Horman-Please-be-patient-about-Kyron-case-104245979.html

so...reading between the lines of Desiree's news conference and Kaine's interview - am I the only one that thinks Kaine thinks Kyron is gone forever, and Desiree is holding out hope he's alive and may be found?

 

[nosysw]

based on these statements from Kaine, that's exactly what I was thinking as I read your post...

 

[JBean]

This to me does not have anything to with not being 'united"
This is just a good example of the general wiring differences between men and women.
Women tend to be more emotional and men tend to look at things from a less emotional perspective.
Desiree: not waiting anymore, we need money and help and I want my son back now.
Kaine: things are moving along in their own time and if we are patient it will come together.

they are both right.

I do think as the more logical thinker of the 2(imo) that Kaine is leaning towards the real possibility that Kyron may no longer be with us and Desiree refuses to think that is an option.
One is a more emotionally based outlook than the other.
Not right not wrong, just different.

Kaine=Mars
Deisree= Venus
Jbean= Moon