MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #23 Retrial

[MerlinFalcon]

The witness for the prosecution is a star for the defence!

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Impatiently waiting for phone records to show it was answered and didn’t go to voicemail.

I think that we can’t tell from our end. It would be something police can see. I actually was experimenting with my partner on picking up/going to voicemail, and from my end, it just shows as ‘outgoing call’ both ways. At least on an iPhone.

 

[Forest_Wood]

JM’s 911 call said face down. Why would she say that?

Did she! I didn't know that JMc said that.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Yes, Jackson, her (JMc) text messages were on private messages, but they were not on Signal, unlike you and your friend Wolfe were using an encrypted app to communicate. That is why you have access to JMc text messages. She has nothing to hide. moo

This is a fallacy! Specifically, a ‘tu quoque’ fallacy. It’s also known as an appeal to hypocrisy. It still doesn’t refute or justify Jen’s behavior.

 

[Snoods]

Continuing on:
MM @5:31 PM: ‘This girl could write a book. Nonstop.’ In reference to Kerry Roberts interview with the Massachusetts state police.
JM: ‘I love it.’ AJ says this means MM and JM were listening to Kerry’s interview. Jen acknowledges she could hear parts of the interview.
JM, again: ‘She’s telling them everything.’ now in reference to the live interview.
NA: ‘Good.’
MM: ‘Going to miss the basketball game at this rate.’ - still in the house.

That’s all the group texts. They were listening to Kerry and making sure she had her story straight!

None of them in any of the texts read today seem very broken up over the death of their dear friend. They seem conniving and dismissive.

 

[BUF]

AJ asserts that these texts are proof of witness collusion. Judge Cannone immediately tells jurors to disregard

Wow, AJ won that objection with the judge in the side bar about the people in that group chat were colluding together. Came back after side bar and repeated it again.

 

[Wishbone]

AJ asserts that these texts are proof of witness collusion. Judge Cannone immediately tells jurors to disregard

col·lude
/kəˈlo͞od/
verb colluding
cooperate in a secret or unlawful way in order to deceive or gain an advantage over others.

Definitely colluding. IMOO

 

[Angelwatch]

Did she! I didn't know that JMc said that.

She said they flipped him over.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Were these group texts part of trial one?

 

[nodamselindistress]

The witness for the prosecution is a star for the defence!

Just like in the "other proceeding" aka the 1st Trial!

 

[jepop]

This is a fallacy! Specifically, a ‘tu quoque’ fallacy. It’s also known as an appeal to hypocrisy. It still doesn’t refute or justify Jen’s behavior.

The two are entirely unrelated imo. In proper context, apples and oranges blah, blah.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

In May 2024 (trial 1) JM testified that they went from One Meadows directly to Mike Lenks’ (Canton PD) residence. She indicated they were there to drop off one of Kerry’s daughters.

But on May 10, 2024, before her actual testimony, JM indicated that they went to the Lenk residence with Kerry Roberts to pick up her daughter at the residence, not to drop her off. AJ led her down a path - ‘So did officer Lenk make an incorrect report?’

JM says ML mixed up pick up and drop off. Lots of errors between Lenk and Proctor, apparently.

 

[nodamselindistress]

col·lude
/kəˈlo͞od/
verb colluding
cooperate in a secret or unlawful way in order to deceive or gain an advantage over others.

Definitely colluding. IMOO

Exactly! NA's statement about not wanting to text about it indicates secretiveness.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

They don’t seem to like Kerry too much. I’m surprised she hasn’t cracked.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

In May 2024 (trial 1) JM testified that they went from One Meadows directly to Mike Lenks’ (Canton PD) residence. She indicated they were there to drop off one of Kerry’s daughters.

But on May 10, 2024, before her actual testimony, JM indicated that they went to the Lenk residence with Kerry Roberts to pick up her daughter at the residence, not to drop her off. AJ led her down a path - ‘So did officer Lenk make an incorrect report?’

JM says ML mixed up pick up and drop off. Lots of errors between Lenk and Proctor, apparently.

So 11 days difference between the proceedings, and JM’s testimony changed between ‘pick up’ to ‘drop off.’

JM refusing to answer if she discussed this with Kerry Roberts.

 

[Soulmagent]

Were these group texts part of trial one?

I dont know but they were made in the 3 or 4 days after his body was found,and they already got Karen's Plea ready to offer her.
Conspiracy anyone? Have we moved up past colluding yet?

 

[kuromiiiilove]

So 11 days difference between the proceedings, and JM’s testimony changed between ‘pick up’ to ‘drop off.’

JM refusing to answer if she discussed this with Kerry Roberts.

The reason this came up is because JM was provided records that showed she was at Mike Lenks house on 1/30/2022. JM told the initial investigators she had NOT, until they told her they had her GPS location at ML’s house. She says she ‘forgot’.

Interesting.

 

[jepop]

Wow, AJ won that objection with the judge in the side bar about the people in that group chat were colluding together. Came back after side bar and repeated it again.

Fantastic! AJ has to get all his objections and questions concerning the judge inserting herself into testimony onto the record any way he can, even if he loses. I only recently came to understand how important this is when you have a judge behaving in the way cannone behaves. Moo

 

[Snoods]

Were these group texts part of trial one?

I didn’t watch the first trial but I think so?
Edit: okay maybe not all of them.

 

[Soulmagent]

Fantastic! AJ has to get all his objections and questions concerning the judge inserting herself into testimony onto the record any way he can, even if he loses. I only recently came to understand how important this is when you have a judge behaving in the way cannone behaves. Moo

Earlier this morning he was asking Jen something and she was doing her thing and he straight turned to the court reporter to finish out what he was saying, like whatever she said didnt even matter he got what he wanted.