MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #24 Retrial

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  • #121
The only one that battered John O’Keefe is on trial for killing him. jmo
If we knew that, we wouldn’t have need for all these pesky things like ‘trials’ ‘credible evidence’ ‘chain of custody’ ‘reliable witness testimony’ ‘proper procedure and legal compliance’. Just go ahead and lock her up, no?

Also, if that was proven trial 1, we wouldn’t be watching trial 2.
 
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I think the people responsible for killing JOK are not on trial. Experts have said he did not have injuries from a motor vehicle accident. In the trial 1 evidence of CA with swollen knuckles from a fight was put into evidence.
 

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  • #124
And he makes so much money a year. 330,000+
I hope they have on line applications.
I just need sterile paper bags to appear more qualified .
And they are not allowed to do their own work. As a protocol.
I bet the whole jury feels high and like they are in a weird world.
And we must remember that these jurors live in the same region/area/town as these incompetent cops. They've all had interactions with police over the years and they are now seeing the incompetence of what they pay for. This will not be lost on them.
MOO
 
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And we must remember that these jurors live in the same region/area/town as these incompetent cops. They've all had interactions with police over the years and they are now seeing the incompetence of what they pay for. This will not be lost on them.
MOO
I know ! eeww.. They have local voting going on now to dont they? We just opened up for the early voters. CW state ..
 
  • #127
I think the people responsible for killing JOK are not on trial. Experts have said he did not have injuries from a motor vehicle accident. In the trial 1 evidence of CA with swollen knuckles from a fight was put into evidence.
Didn't CA go out of state for a couple of weeks not long after JOK's death?
Plus BA had his arm in a sling afterwards, too, correct?
No wonder he didn't go to the funeral.
IMO, as always.
 
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I think the people responsible for killing JOK are not on trial. Experts have said he did not have injuries from a motor vehicle accident. In the trial 1 evidence of CA with swollen knuckles from a fight was put into evidence.
I still remember that Colin’s texts to and from Alli McCabe were missing for almost a month after 1/29/22.
 
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  • #129
Or maybe the CW lawyers just don’t understand the rules of evidence?
Outside in a snowstorm...yes possibly that was on a learning curve for those investigating.
 
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I thought it was a very strange argument from Lt. Gallagher to insinuate that taking a photo of Karen’s car as it came in was outside of his scope, even though they had only been recused from investigative interviews.
We can see how sh*t flows downhill here. Pass the buck. Pass the buck. Pass the buck. Now we know why they were all so incompetent because their leaders were!
MOO
 
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And we must remember that these jurors live in the same region/area/town as these incompetent cops. They've all had interactions with police over the years and they are now seeing the incompetence of what they pay for. This will not be lost on them.
MOO
Perhaps they can address their issues with the Select Board.
Oh wait...
IMO.
 
  • #132
Outside in a snowstorm...yes possibly that was on a learning curve for those investigating.
Living in MA they are not strangers to the weather to include snowstorms. JMOO
 
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Outside in a snowstorm...yes possibly that was on a learning curve for those investigating.
Poor sad ,did not know they was in for bad weather -New Englanders.
 
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ETA: For all we know, someone could have adjusted a cup, sneezed, and used Karen’s car to balance with how close it was to the cup evidence
Exactly! Or dipped their finger in a cup, and touched the light intentionally. Touch DNA.
MOO.
 
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Living in MA they are not strangers to the weather to include snowstorms. JMOO
It’s really Schrodingers officers from the ‘Karen is guilty’ camp. We are supposed to believe that they are competent and did not make any mistakes, but also believe that they are newborn babes who never saw snow before the morning John was found.
 
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I don't think I have laughed more than I did during the questioning of Gallagher. Keystone cops to the max. Poster Boy for WHAT NOT TO DO during a police investigation.
It was too much work for a high ranking and highly paid officer to perform the basics, AND since he only had a few months left until retirement, why even bother!
 
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Even if you think KR ran over JoK, which I could not disagree with you more, we’ll never know because it was a historically awful display of “investigating”, be mad at the LE who ruined everything your anger is misplaced on KR if you do really care about justice for JoK, moo
 
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Exactly! Or dipped their finger in a cup, and touched the light intentionally. Touch DNA.
MOO.
And they might have.....but not picked up when the light was exampled....
 
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Living in MA they are not strangers to the weather to include snowstorms. JMOO
Depends how many dead bodies in a snowstorm they've dealt with. Especially not understanding exactly what occured to the victim. JMO
 
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Brennan shows a clip of Karen acknowledging that she said ‘could I have hit him’ because she was thinking of the possibilities of what happened to him. Definitely not incriminating lol.
 
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