MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #28 Retrial

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I noticed the defense looked very animated after the sidebar before the judge made the announcement. I wonder if that tells us anything.
 
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Matt Johnson reporting that they were rushed out of the court room so fast that people left their belongings.
Yikes.
IMO.
I can’t imagine anything is that urgent. Maybe the judge just can’t wait for the mess that’s about to be created.
 
  • #784
I noticed the defense looked very animated after the sidebar before the judge made the announcement. I wonder if that tells us anything.
Matt Johnson just said that during sidebar, KR was motioning to the jury box and talking very animatedly to her attorneys.
Hmm...
IMO.
 
  • #785
Hank Brennan seems to believe that evidence from John O'Keefe's cellphone is a better indicator of how he died than evidence from his actual corpse.

Are the jury seriously going to believe all the mental gymnastics they're doing with these experts trying to line up data from the Lexus and his cellphone to indicate a vehicle strike when there are much bigger and more obvious glaring questions which need answers and they are providing little to none?

JMO
The CW really got boxed into a corner due to the "investigation" of Proctor et al that declared Karen reversed into JOK with her Lexus from Day 1.
 
  • #786
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Nah. Sue OConnell said she never saw any of them sleeping. He often posts things on X that are refuted by others in the courtroom.
 
  • #787
Can’t help but wonder if we won’t get an explanation of what has happened but I’m gonna guess a juror will be sent home over something.
 
  • #788
Can’t help but wonder if we won’t get an explanation of what has happened but I’m gonna guess a juror will be sent home over something.
Probably a pro CW juror.. haha. J/k
 
  • #789
Nah. Sue OConnell said she never saw any of them sleeping. He often posts things on X that are refuted by others in the courtroom.
I know, JDP is absolutely full of it. It would be really really funny if Judge challenged him on it and admonished him in court for spreading misinformation about events in her trial!
 
  • #790
Can’t help but wonder if we won’t get an explanation of what has happened but I’m gonna guess a juror will be sent home over something.
An anonymous tipster with some wrongdoings committed by a seemingly KR sympathetic juror perhaps?
 
  • #791
Matt Johnson just said that during sidebar, KR was motioning to the jury box and talking very animatedly to her attorneys.
Hmm...
IMO.
You can see her doing that after the sidebar too. I don't know how to rewind but I saw it.
 
  • #792
It seems that somehow KR 'started it' because a reporter did say she covered her mouth and animatedly pointed towards the jury box. Sooo odd. It is FREEZING out for here and May too as I think they are outside waiting to be called in. Do not care obvs about the KR haters. Oh I cannot believe this and I will most likely miss what it was about TILL 2:30. My phone doesn't open anything at work in the building. Others do, but my phone is prob 10 years old. haha. IT WORKS fine. iphone 0 prob. hah.
 
  • #793
As I said previously, the digital forensic data stands. Its solid evidence.
No cross by the defense on the digital forensic data. Their only focus on whether Mr. Burgess had a degree or not.

RSBM

Much of it will be common cause because it's spat out by BERLA. The defence may have even done their own extraction or have no reason to bother. They really seem to be disputing only the methodology of the variance calculation, where Burgess has used the 3 point turn, and DiSorga used the 2 phones.

That is pretty much the heart of it. And those are not complex calculations. So while Alessi has made inroads on credibility - it does nothing to dislodge the actual extracted data.

As I've said since last week - DiSorga appears to agree with Burgess on everything except the variance methodology.

I think the fact that Alessi is slicing the sausage so finely on that, shows just how tight the timeline is this time compared to T1.

Ideas about 1162 being the tow truck loading are dead and buried.

IMO/MOO
 
  • #794
Wow. She’s (judge) gonna talk to each juror 1-1. I wonder what happened?
*sigh*

I really hope that we're not headed to mistrial number two due to something like juror misconduct.

MOO
 
  • #795
An anonymous tipster with some wrongdoings committed by a seemingly KR sympathetic juror perhaps?
I was also thinking beginning of selection process for chairperson? Maybe while the judge is seeing each juror individually for whatever the reason is, she can begin to gauge a suitable candidate as she sees fit? Jmo. In MA the judge selects the jury chairperson before the 12 who will deliberate are randomly chosen. Moo
 
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RSBM

Much of it will be common cause because it's spat out by BERLA. The defence may have even done their own extraction or have no reason to bother. They really seem to be disputing only the methodology of the variance calculation, where Burgess has used the 3 point turn, and DiSorga used the 2 phones.

That is pretty much the heart of it. And those are not complex calculations. So while Alessi has made inroads on credibility - it does nothing to dislodge the actual extracted data.

As I've said since last week - DiSorga appears to agree with Burgess on everything except the variance methodology.

I think the fact that Alessi is slicing the sausage so finely on that, shows just how tight the timeline is this time compared to T1.

Ideas about 1162 being the tow truck loading are dead and buried.

IMO/MOO
Interesting that you have decided what the defense is claiming when they actually haven't even started their case yet. JMO.
 
  • #797
Interesting that you have decided what the defense is claiming when they actually haven't even started their case yet. JMO.
And because they've said it since last week, it must be true!
MOO
 
  • #798
One of the very few days I’m actually able to put the trial on as it starts and then there’s an issue. What’s next, will they come back just to say it’s time for the morning break?
 
  • #799
*sigh*

I really hope that we're not headed to mistrial number two due to something like juror misconduct.

MOO
So disappointing if that happens. This needs to be NG on all counts, period. Ok, the drinking driving if they have to of course. She deserves along with her incredible parents and atty's a full NG. Get this horrible thing hanging over her head gone and acknowledged to all. IMO
 
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Vinnie Politan is doing himself a great injustice having John DePetro on his panel discussing the KR trial.

Scraping the bottom for sure.


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