MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #30 Retrial

[Forest_Wood]

One of many talents of ADA Brennan: he does not need to object because of confidence in witnesses' testimony.

He objected at every statement yesterday, which Alessi addressed during the voir dire this morning.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

It's clear that Welcher didn't do much of what he is testifying to and that others did the actual work while he is trying to put it all together. That's why he insists on looking at his computer all the time, which would have his notes. This is why he's having such a hard time as an "Expert". He's lost without his notes on his computer files.
MOO

Exactly this. He pressed c+v, added a couple new lines and his blue paint experiment, and never expected to be questioned this hard in his work. Maybe he forgot justice for a fallen officer and a woman’s freedom are on the line. MOO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Welcher has diarrhea of the mouth. Why can't he just ANSWER the question without so much elaboration?

Because he has no substance to fall back on. He has to be oppositional and evasive because when it comes down to it his experiment is not nearly as thorough as he presented it to be. MOO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Ope! Alessi just asked if it was photoshopped.

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1928070884842996166

 

[kuromiiiilove]

my guess is... ARCAA has evidence the photos are photoshoped LOL

I will have to rewatch this later on 2x speed, I'm a bit preoccupied, but I'm happy to see Alessi is addressing the "bump"

Yep! Alessi just asked if it was photoshop. Welcher says it is a 3d image from a laser scan, not Photoshop. Welcher also didn’t produce the 3d depiction- someone else at Aperture did.

 

[Anniesflowers]

I must say it's odd to me how little the wider pundit discourse around this case has focussed on the implications of 1162, or the Traverse accident reconstruction. It's always been obvious that such a low speed tap could not shatter the Lexus tail light as the bumpers would make first contact, and need to crumple significantly in order for there to be any contact with the Lexus tail light. That's why we have bumpers!

IMO Welcher put that issue to bed once and for all with his 3D model.

Maybe ARCCA have some super clever alternate explanation, but until that time 1162 and the ruling out of M1 for the tail light damage are, prima facie, highly incriminating.

Indeed one would have to say, absent some solid exculpatory arguments, the defendant is looking down the barrel of at least a manslaughter conviction right now. This is especially the case when one considers, that roughly there was a 8-4 majority for manslaughter last time, on a much weaker CW case.

Interesting times ahead for the defence, and a lot will depend on how Alessi can recover from his DiSorga reversal. The least 2 weeks have illustrated quite clearly why he needed to keep Burgess's variance calculations out of evidence.

MOO

I keep wondering why the CW harps on these unimportant details, yet provides no actual evidence OJO was in a vehicle collision. I can’t move past that point. IMO, all of Dr. Wecher’s talk is just noise.

 

[missy1974]

I don't care what the suspension numbers are, as long as the numbers match!
WHAT? LOL

 

[Anniesflowers]

And that dumb chart has Karen backing out of a driveway at 50% throttle. I would throw the whole chart out. Get a Toyota expert in to download the information from the SUV. Not someone paid $400k to create a magical chart. Garbage in garbage out.

It is THE judge that is trying to give these people credibility. Why? Let the jurors decide who to believe....judge has become a juror. And arbitrator of the truth???

BBM;
YES!

 

[kuromiiiilove]

I don't care what the suspension numbers are, as long as the numbers match!
WHAT? LOL

As long as they match (my preconceived theory) MOO

 

[lohrtabitha]

Wow...just wow...Has anyone here ever seen a judge be so blatant in preventing a defense lawyer to cross examine a witness. What has happened to trying to just get to the truth?

And it his incredulous that she happened to be a defense lawyer herself. She is beyond biased. Mo

 

[jepop]

Dr. Welcher talented engineer and well respected. I know many engineers, and I feel I know this man. Love it!

Re: ARCCA witnesses
-- Did not go to the crime scene
-- Did not view the vehicle
-- Did not look at tech stream data
Yet, Alessi wanted to know if Dr. Welcher went to 34F residence and garage.

One of many talents of ADA Brennan: he does not need to object because of confidence in witnesses' testimony.

Alessi is a dual multi-tasking attorney- he helps the CW.

My thoughts are w/madam court reporter

Matter of opinion

I disagree here. Brennan has made critical errors with his witnesses at every turn of this trial and these are well documented. Despite his reputation, a critical assessment of his performance shows just how singularly average he really is. He may be good enough to get another mistrial, but not a guilty I'm afraid. Jmo

 

[kuromiiiilove]

It is clear to me that Dr. Welcher began his analysis with the Commonwealth’s theory already in mind and worked backward to fit the evidence to that narrative under the guise of science. Alessi likely won’t get him to admit to the shortcomings of his experiments on cross, but he’s doing an excellent job revealing the internal inconsistencies in Welcher’s conclusions. I think Welcher is trying to almost overwhelm the jury with so much technical jargon and ambiguity that little of it sticks, then returning on re-direct with a tidy summary designed to reinforce the Commonwealth’s core claims.

That said, Alessi has already landed a significant point: ARCCA has made clear that reconstructionists are expected to rely on physical evidence, not speculation or narrative “context” like what Jennifer McCabe or Brian Tully say happened. Fragment evidence, DNA, timestamps, even weather, all of that, that the CW and their experts have opined on, is secondary unless the physical science lines up.And that’s really the heart of the matter: Is the damage to Karen Read’s Lexus consistent with a pedestrian strike? Are John’s injuries consistent with being hit by a vehicle of that size? Those are the only questions that matter in crash reconstruction, not all this noise that Welcher has added in. Once the defense’s experts take the stand, I think the jury will be in a great position to recognize what has and hasn’t actually been proven. MOO

 

[Oakland CA]

Much better job by Alessi today on discrediting the Aperture report/slides etc...

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

He objected at every statement yesterday, which Alessi addressed during the voir dire this morning.

Gotta ignore that because it doesn't fit the fictional narrative JMO

 

[Oakland CA]

It is clear to me that Dr. Welcher began his analysis with the Commonwealth’s theory already in mind and worked backward to fit the evidence to that narrative............

Completely agree with this.
Today's testimony certainly seems to indicate such.

 

[ShadyLady]

hmmm, Dr's images show the tail light has hit, imo. But, I think all these images were again voodoo.

 

[lohrtabitha]

Also unbelievable that Judge Cannone has not instructed Welcher to simply answer the questions. I mean, she even told Buhkenik that, and I feel like Welcher is even more oppositional!

Yes and I will predict when ARRCA takes the stand she will do it to them. So biased. Mo

 

[Wishbone]

Much better job by Alessi today on discrediting the Aperture report/slides etc...

He is a master of his craft. JMOO

 

[ShadyLady]

Dr's images have problems with edges??? haha....so inches dont matter.