NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #38 Retrial

[Wishbone]

I’m very curious as to who she is and whose side she was on. Just because she’s dancing in front of his house doesn’t mean she’s FKR. She might just be doing it to make it look like she is.

If she was FKR she would be wearing pink not blue, just a guess because I believe she is a plant. JMOO

 

[keek]

If she was FKR she would be wearing pink not blue, just a guess because I believe she is a plant. JMOO.

She's a little TOO obvious. I think I read a neighbor called the CANTON police on her, no crime though I'd think, the moves just struck her. Don't know how that would be explained unless the cop would say, move along. Just too timely due to brennan's same day, I THINK, lambasted due to slurring jurors as well, public statement. Unheard of. It seems like something JMc would think up to make a point.. I don't know, maybe just crazy thoughts but..

 

[Seni]

Yeah he worked for the LA County DAs office as a prosecutor for a long time. He was the lead prosecutor on the Phil Spector case and it was the first successful prosecution of a celebrity for murder in LA in 40 years

Just curious as to how and why he was hired for Karen's case? Someone knew what they were doing.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Just curious as to how and why he was hired for Karen's case? Someone knew what they were doing.

I think HB is simply a "friend" of MM and got the job handed to him that way.
MOO

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Just curious as to how and why he was hired for Karen's case? Someone knew what they were doing.

You’re talking about Alan Jackson, right? Karen contacted him.

 

[Tricia]

Test Test

 

[Malleeboy]

I believe Bev always chooses Juror #1 (or Seat #1, I forget which) to be foreperson. So it's pretty random.

Except Bev reordered the jury during the trial to put the foreperson in seat 1.
Think it should either be random draw or left to the jury to nominate.

Not sure Bev did have an impact in this case, but a judge could select a foreperson that would lean the way the judge wanted, and despite the foreperson technically having no greater say, human behaviour would lean towards that juror having a higher weighting.

 

[Warwick7]

Yeah he worked for the LA County DAs office as a prosecutor for a long time. He was the lead prosecutor on the Phil Spector case and it was the first successful prosecution of a celebrity for murder in LA in 40 years

I remember so little about Spector. And of course ĥad no idea Alan Jackson was the prosecution. After reading articles tonight I came across this one.

Jackson said: "Justice in the case against Phil Spector was the culmination of many long hours and years of preparation for the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office. Fortunately for Jackson, he loves the work. “I cannot imagine a more satisfying career than that of a public prosecutor,” he says. “Our job is to seek justice for those who have been victimized. Those who hire us to do this job—the people of the State of California—expect the very best from us. They demand that we perform our job ethically and honorably, and they expect that we will fight for the rights of those who often cannot or will not fight for themselves.”

His core principles have not changed one bit.

Trying Times

Prosecutor Alan Jackson brings Phil Spector to justice with a long-awaited verdict.

www.pepperdine.edu

 

[Luna20]

I remember so little about Spector. And of course ĥad no idea Alan Jackson was the prosecution. After reading articles tonight I came across this one.

Jackson said: "Justice in the case against Phil Spector was the culmination of many long hours and years of preparation for the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office. Fortunately for Jackson, he loves the work. “I cannot imagine a more satisfying career than that of a public prosecutor,” he says. “Our job is to seek justice for those who have been victimized. Those who hire us to do this job—the people of the State of California—expect the very best from us. They demand that we perform our job ethically and honorably, and they expect that we will fight for the rights of those who often cannot or will not fight for themselves.”

His core principles have not changed one bit.

Trying Times

Prosecutor Alan Jackson brings Phil Spector to justice with a long-awaited verdict.

www.pepperdine.edu

I’m watching a documentary about Spector right now. I did a double take when I read your post

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

I remember so little about Spector. And of course ĥad no idea Alan Jackson was the prosecution. After reading articles tonight I came across this one.

Jackson said: "Justice in the case against Phil Spector was the culmination of many long hours and years of preparation for the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office. Fortunately for Jackson, he loves the work. “I cannot imagine a more satisfying career than that of a public prosecutor,” he says. “Our job is to seek justice for those who have been victimized. Those who hire us to do this job—the people of the State of California—expect the very best from us. They demand that we perform our job ethically and honorably, and they expect that we will fight for the rights of those who often cannot or will not fight for themselves.”

His core principles have not changed one bit.

Trying Times

Prosecutor Alan Jackson brings Phil Spector to justice with a long-awaited verdict.

www.pepperdine.edu

Yes @Warwick7 …. the prosecution of Spector was quite an ordeal. And IIRC there were actually two trials. The first IIRC resulted in a mistrial. And AJ and the LA prosecutors team retried him again in a second trial. That second trial resulted in a conviction. MOO

 

[Anniesflowers]

She's a little TOO obvious. I think I read a neighbor called the CANTON police on her, no crime though I'd think, the moves just struck her. Don't know how that would be explained unless the cop would say, move along. Just too timely due to brennan's same day, I THINK, lambasted due to slurring jurors as well, public statement. Unheard of. It seems like something JMc would think up to make a point.. I don't know, maybe just crazy thoughts but..

BBM honestly, this whole trial has been crazy….I'm not sure that any of the thoughts you have could be crazier than what actually happened during this whole ‘investigation’ and trial.

 

[Morag]

Here’s an excellent story from Vanity Fair:

Karen Read Tells Her Story (Part 1): A Murder Trial in Massachusetts

After John O’Keefe was found, near death, in the snowy front yard of a fellow Boston cop, his girlfriend was arrested. As Karen Read’s second murder trial looms, she’s ready to talk about what she says really happened.

www.vanityfair.com

Part 3 (second trial) has yet to be published.

 

[turaj]

Except Bev reordered the jury during the trial to put the foreperson in seat 1.
Think it should either be random draw or left to the jury to nominate.

Not sure Bev did have an impact in this case, but a judge could select a foreperson that would lean the way the judge wanted, and despite the foreperson technically having no greater say, human behaviour would lean towards that juror having a higher weighting.

I have never liked it when Judge picks foreperson. In this trial I believe it was reported that another juror was asked to change seats with juror in seat 1 so hand picked by Bev as I see it. Bev had a chance at that point to watch the jury and maybe he gave vibes of being pro CW...we will never know. He was notably the only one not taking notes.

 

[turaj]

KR was acquitted of most charges in spite of a judge that clearly so wanted a conviction. One thing I will always wonder about it what prompted her to say that one day that "the jury is fed up"? I remember thinking what a very odd thing for a judge to say. So far on the jury interviews I don't get that feeling. Many words could have been used by Bev....but "fed up"? During the interviews the only complaint I heard was about the waiting for late starts. The sidebars did not seem a topic they brought up. Clearly any comments about the judge are taboo for attorneys or jurors in these post verdict interviews. AJ is the only one speaking about some of the rulings with any sense of outrage and probably because he is not local.

 

[turaj]

Does anyone know where the civil case stands and who is representing KR in that if. it goes forward?

 

[MerlinFalcon]

I was listening to a podcast with Michael Easter. I don’t think it’s an approved source here but if you go to you tube and put his name in, it’s from a couple of days ago and over 2 hours. Anyhoo, he told them how easy it would have been for the Commonwealth to go to google with a warrant and ask them to do a search on January 29th for “hos long to die in cold” with the typo. It would have given them the exact time of the search and attributed to the phone or laptop that it came from. He was shocked that the Massachusetts State Police didn’t think of it.

 

[Forest_Wood]

KR was acquitted of most charges in spite of a judge that clearly so wanted a conviction. One thing I will always wonder about it what prompted her to say that one day that "the jury is fed up"? I remember thinking what a very odd thing for a judge to say. So far on the jury interviews I don't get that feeling. Many words could have been used by Bev....but "fed up"? During the interviews the only complaint I heard was about the waiting for late starts. The sidebars did not seem a topic they brought up. Clearly any comments about the judge are taboo for attorneys or jurors in these post verdict interviews. AJ is the only one speaking about some of the rulings with any sense of outrage and probably because he is not local.

I remember that day had many side bars and didn't flow very well. I believe the judge was referring to having so many interruptions due to side bars and she was concerned the jury was not being utilized adequately as a result. BC tried very hard to keep the trial moving for the jury and she watched the jurors closely, I will give her that. One of the jurors (the one from Brazil) was asked that question about how the sidebars affected her and she said that she welcomed the sidebars as a way to breathe and relax and not have to focus so intently (paraphrasing).
MOO

 

[missy1974]

I was listening to a podcast with Michael Easter. I don’t think it’s an approved source here but if you go to you tube and put his name in, it’s from a couple of days ago and over 2 hours. Anyhoo, he told them how easy it would have been for the Commonwealth to go to google with a warrant and ask them to do a search on January 29th for “hos long to die in cold” with the typo. It would have given them the exact time of the search and attributed to the phone or laptop that it came from. He was shocked that the Massachusetts State Police didn’t think of it.

I think there are reasons why the defense is so confident in their insistence that Karen is innocent and why they fought so hard for her. A lot of us have watched so many trials where the defense does what the defense does, but it's rare for defense attorneys to have the passion for her innocence that all of her's did and still do.

With that said... what was in the FBI report? And whatever it was, I'm going to guess they were not allowed to bring it into the trial.



An FBI analysis of a phone belonging to Brian Albert’s sister-in-law, Jennifer McCabe, determined she searched “hos long to die in cold” at 2:27 am, hours before she called 911 to report that O’Keefe’s body had been found outside the Albert home, according to Jackson.

“The United States Federal Bureau of Investigation also specifically confirms that that search was made on Jennifer McCabe’s phone, and it was made on or before 2:27 (am)… That fact, Your Honor, is no longer open for debate. And none of that was presented before the (state) grand jury,” Jackson explained.

Federal probe findings revealed in court as Karen Read’s defense team pushes to dismiss murder case

Karen Read is accused of running down John O’Keefe in reverse with her Lexus SUV in Canton but an accident reconstructionist hired by the FBI found O’Keefe’s injuries did not appear to be from a car strike.

www.yahoo.com

Federal probe findings revealed in court as Karen Read’s defense team pushes to dismiss murder case

Karen Read is accused of running down John O’Keefe in reverse with her Lexus SUV in Canton but an accident reconstructionist hired by the FBI found O’Keefe’s injuries did not appear to be from a car strike.

www.yahoo.com

I was able to find the hearing on youtube too...

 

[keek]

KR was acquitted of most charges in spite of a judge that clearly so wanted a conviction. One thing I will always wonder about it what prompted her to say that one day that "the jury is fed up"? I remember thinking what a very odd thing for a judge to say. So far on the jury interviews I don't get that feeling. Many words could have been used by Bev....but "fed up"? During the interviews the only complaint I heard was about the waiting for late starts. The sidebars did not seem a topic they brought up. Clearly any comments about the judge are taboo for attorneys or jurors in these post verdict interviews. AJ is the only one speaking about some of the rulings with any sense of outrage and probably because he is not local.

The jury was not fed up, that was judge putting the negative light on the defense side, again. IMO

 

[keek]

The jury was not fed up, that was judge putting the negative light on the defense side, again. IMO

Right, none of the interviewing jurorists have said anything negative about being 'fed up'. The big sighs, the disparaging tone towards the atty's, rude 'comments', all showed where she was coming from the entire trial.. not happy how it worked so well that the jurors found KR not guilty. IMO