MA MA - Sandra Crispo, 54, Hanson, 7 August 2019

[GordianKnot]

My immediate thought is that there was a struggle but IIRC, LE doesn't seem to think so? MOO

If the mattress was left in the house (which it sounds like it was), maybe turning it over for something that was stashed/hidden under the mattress, money or something else?

*ETA, just saw MMJ's post #220.
I'm thinking right along those same lines.

JMO.

 

[PommyMommy]

If the mattress was left in the house (which it sounds like it was), maybe turning it over for something that was stashed/hidden under the mattress, money or something else?

*ETA, just saw MMJ's post #220.
I'm thinking right along those same lines.

JMO.

Yes, and I imagine if someone were to go about that in an unwieldy (frenzied?) manner, it could knock all the bed boards out of whack. MOO

 

[tigerteeth]

The Night Watchman said: ↑
Security footage shows Sandra getting out of the car and going into a Cumberland Farms to buy cigarettes, after which she was taken home.
The Night Watchman said: ↑
There is no evidence that Sandra, her shoes, or purse, ever made it back to the house after Cumby's.


If she never returned from CF, her back door was open all day? Normal?

I think the shoes are mentioned because if she did make it back, it seems that she
left again. Maybe she would typically take her shoes off in the house and her daughter knew that ?

I read her back door was open first, but then kept reading unlocked. Some people say “open” for unlocked. Do we know which was actually true? Sorry if this has already been confirmed.

 

[GordianKnot]

Yes, and I imagine if someone were to go about that in an unwieldy (frenzied?) manner, it could knock all the bed boards out of whack. MOO

I do think it's just as likely, if not more likely, to have been SC herself who moved her mattress/bed boards as it is to have been someone else.

Given the somewhat unique set of circumstances surrounding SC's disappearance, I'm more than a little surprised at the dearth of MSM reporting on her disappearance...I can't find many recent MSM articles, not even from local news outlets. There's been nothing at all that I've seen for the past 3-4 days. No real updates on the status of the investigation by LE, either.

I'm also a little surprised that this case hasn't gained more traction here on WS.

To me, it's a genuinely mysterious one, simply because there's no one scenario that appears to be the most likely explanation for her disappearance.

JMO.

 

[PommyMommy]

I do think it's just as likely, if not more likely, to have been SC herself who moved her mattress/bed boards as it is to have been someone else.

Given the somewhat unique set of circumstances surrounding SC's disappearance, I'm more than a little surprised at the dearth of MSM reporting on her disappearance...I can't find many recent MSM articles, not even from local news outlets. There's been nothing at all that I've seen for the past 3-4 days. No real updates on the status of the investigation by LE, either.

I'm also a little surprised that this case hasn't gained more traction here on WS.

To me, it's a genuinely mysterious one, simply because there's no one scenario that appears to be the most likely explanation for her disappearance.

JMO.

I'm not all that familiar with bed boards. I think I had some many, many moons ago but I don't ever remember them coming loose. It just seems like someone would have to get pretty rough with those mattresses while looking for something to knock them loose, or am I wrong? Do you have bed boards?

On another note, I get the creeps talking about "bed boards" because for some reason I keep reading it as "bed bugs." Makes me itchy. MOO

 

[muppethead]

I'm not all that familiar with bed boards. I think I had some many, many moons ago but I don't ever remember them coming loose. It just seems like someone would have to get pretty rough with those mattresses while looking for something to knock them loose, or am I wrong? Do you have bed boards?

On another note, I get the creeps talking about "bed boards" because for some reason I keep reading it as "bed bugs." Makes me itchy. MOO

I have a sleigh bed and it sits in a frame and then you have the boards/slats underneath to support it - you void the warrantee if you don't have a certain amount. It does not say if there was also a box spring or just the mattress. Even if just the mattress, picking it up could dislodge some of the boards if it wasn't done carefully. But why? What could be under the mattress - especially if there is no box spring?

As to the back door , I had the same question about open or just unlocked. I assumed unlocked. That could be a poor assumption.

There is now an official facebook page set up but there is no new information there.

If it were Sandra who left voluntarily, what had she been keeping under the mattress/bed? Cash? Or did she come home from a walk and interrupt someone looking for something? Did someone try to hide under the bed when she came in? Did the dog do it?

I wish they would test the sheets and luminol the whole house. Overkill but there is nothing to go on.

MOO

 

[tigerteeth]

I do think it's just as likely, if not more likely, to have been SC herself who moved her mattress/bed boards as it is to have been someone else.

Given the somewhat unique set of circumstances surrounding SC's disappearance, I'm more than a little surprised at the dearth of MSM reporting on her disappearance...I can't find many recent MSM articles, not even from local news outlets. There's been nothing at all that I've seen for the past 3-4 days. No real updates on the status of the investigation by LE, either.

I'm also a little surprised that this case hasn't gained more traction here on WS.

To me, it's a genuinely mysterious one, simply because there's no one scenario that appears to be the most likely explanation for her disappearance.

JMO.

I feel like a lot of cases (New England ones especially, since that’s where I’m from and I really seem to see it even though missing people in some areas here aren’t as common as in other areas) often don’t get many or any updates! Can be frustrating.

 

[GordianKnot]

Massachusetts Grandmother Missing For 40 Days, Family Suspects Foul Play

SABBM:

“We have no idea where Sandra is,” Hanson Police Chief Michael Miksch told Dateline.

“Someone disappearing is suspicious in and of itself, but there are no signs of foul play, nothing out of the ordinary at her house. We just don’t know,” Miksch said.

Crispo, 54, was last seen on Aug. 7, Wednesday. She is seen in a CCTV footage getting out of a relative’s car at a mechanic shop.

McMahon recalled that her mother had called stating she had some mechanical issues with her vehicle. This was after McMahon left the kids at her place. Since McMahon was in Boston working, another family member picked up Crispo and the kids and helped her dropped the vehicle at the mechanic.
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You know, it's a small detail, but still: other articles state she was last seen getting out of "a relative's" car at the convenience store, not at the mechanic's shop.

And I really don't understand why there has to be all this mystery around who was driving that truck.

Which relative gave her the ride to the mechanic's shop?
Who'd behind the wheel on that video that shows her getting out of the vehicle and going into that store?

I don't understand the big veil of secrecy that's being drawn around the identity of that relative. It just baffles me.

It seems to me that it would help the efforts to locate SC immensely if this mystery relative would get out in front of the media and provide them with information about SC's mood, demeanor, statements, etc., that evening, seeing as how he/she appears to be the last person to have seen and interacted with SC before she disappeared.

I think if the media could get new information like that from the last known person to see/speak to SC, it would help to keep her case out there in the public's awareness.

Barring that, I don't know that someone living even 3 blocks over from her would recognize her as being a missing person if they bumped into her on the street.

JMO.

 

[shanadk]

Drug addict(s) ? Looking for valuables in bed?
The "unnamed relative" is mighty strange.
Not looking good.

 

[Steelslady]

I feel like a lot of cases (New England ones especially, since that’s where I’m from and I really seem to see it even though missing people in some areas here aren’t as common as in other areas) often don’t get many or any updates! Can be frustrating.

They also don't get taken as serious by LE, either. Lived here all of my life. Helped out with a few searches. Some searches done by family and friends, who were strangers to me, but desperate for help.

Trust me. It is upsetting to witness.

 

[Steelslady]

Massachusetts Grandmother Missing For 40 Days, Family Suspects Foul Play

SABBM:

“We have no idea where Sandra is,” Hanson Police Chief Michael Miksch told Dateline.

“Someone disappearing is suspicious in and of itself, but there are no signs of foul play, nothing out of the ordinary at her house. We just don’t know,” Miksch said.

Crispo, 54, was last seen on Aug. 7, Wednesday. She is seen in a CCTV footage getting out of a relative’s car at a mechanic shop.

McMahon recalled that her mother had called stating she had some mechanical issues with her vehicle. This was after McMahon left the kids at her place. Since McMahon was in Boston working, another family member picked up Crispo and the kids and helped her dropped the vehicle at the mechanic.
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You know, it's a small detail, but still: other articles state she was last seen getting out of "a relative's" car at the convenience store, not at the mechanic's shop.

And I really don't understand why there has to be all this mystery around who was driving that truck.

Which relative gave her the ride to the mechanic's shop?
Who'd behind the wheel on that video that shows her getting out of the vehicle and going into that store?

I don't understand the big veil of secrecy that's being drawn around the identity of that relative. It just baffles me.

It seems to me that it would help the efforts to locate SC immensely if this mystery relative would get out in front of the media and provide them with information about SC's mood, demeanor, statements, etc., that evening, seeing as how he/she appears to be the last person to have seen and interacted with SC before she disappeared.

I think if the media could get new information like that from the last known person to see/speak to SC, it would help to keep her case out there in the public's awareness.

Barring that, I don't know that someone living even 3 blocks over from her would recognize her as being a missing person if they bumped into her on the street.

JMO.

Gosh, you know what? Why don't they spray the place inside and out with luminol and see if her blood was cleaned up!

So similar to Kelsey Berreth's case, only at least LE got on the ball once her family found something at her home. Or that would be another case of a woman taking off to do God knows what, leaving her child behind.

 

[FreshEyes]

I did a search and found there are a couple Registered Sex Offenders living in Sandra's neighborhood. I wonder if any of her neighbors has a history of violence. I'm imagining a scenario where she was out for a walk and someone attacked/abducted her.

just throwing ideas out there.

 

[shanadk]

They also don't get taken as serious by LE, either.

It's not just New England.
That lack of attention and coverage happens in lots of areas.

 

[Luckyzmom]

Very frustrating ... Can't imagine how hard this is for family. Prayers for Sandra and family.

 

[tigerteeth]

It's not just New England.
That lack of attention and coverage happens in lots of areas.

I know it’s not just New England but especially. I live here, and that’s why I’m saying it. We do not see missing people as often as many there areas, and even when we do, this happens.

 

[tigerteeth]

Also, like in every case, LE is going to keep certain things Quiet, like the family member. We really don’t need to know who it is. If innocent, they would likely be blamed until solved or for the rest of their life if not. It happens way too much. If they did it, the cops are probably onto it and don’t want them to run.

 

[shanadk]

Thank you for correcting all of my brief input, tigerteeth. Love and light to you, also.

 

[acutename]

Massachusetts Grandmother Missing For 40 Days, Family Suspects Foul Play

SABBM:

“We have no idea where Sandra is,” Hanson Police Chief Michael Miksch told Dateline.

“Someone disappearing is suspicious in and of itself, but there are no signs of foul play, nothing out of the ordinary at her house. We just don’t know,” Miksch said.

Crispo, 54, was last seen on Aug. 7, Wednesday. She is seen in a CCTV footage getting out of a relative’s car at a mechanic shop.

McMahon recalled that her mother had called stating she had some mechanical issues with her vehicle. This was after McMahon left the kids at her place. Since McMahon was in Boston working, another family member picked up Crispo and the kids and helped her dropped the vehicle at the mechanic.
_______________________

You know, it's a small detail, but still: other articles state she was last seen getting out of "a relative's" car at the convenience store, not at the mechanic's shop.

And I really don't understand why there has to be all this mystery around who was driving that truck.

Which relative gave her the ride to the mechanic's shop?
Who'd behind the wheel on that video that shows her getting out of the vehicle and going into that store?

I don't understand the big veil of secrecy that's being drawn around the identity of that relative. It just baffles me.

It seems to me that it would help the efforts to locate SC immensely if this mystery relative would get out in front of the media and provide them with information about SC's mood, demeanor, statements, etc., that evening, seeing as how he/she appears to be the last person to have seen and interacted with SC before she disappeared.

I think if the media could get new information like that from the last known person to see/speak to SC, it would help to keep her case out there in the public's awareness.

Barring that, I don't know that someone living even 3 blocks over from her would recognize her as being a missing person if they bumped into her on the street.

JMO.

did the un-named relative keep the kids that day as well, since they do not seem to have been left with SC? And if they had left them with her, the daughter would have returned later from Boston to pick them up and seen SC that evening?

 

[rob68]

did the un-named relative keep the kids that day as well, since they do not seem to have been left with SC? And if they had left them with her, the daughter would have returned later from Boston to pick them up and seen SC that evening?

Sandra had the kids on that Wednesday. Unknown relative came to Sandra's, picked up kids and followed Sandra to repair shop to drop off her car. Unknown relative, kids and Sandra then stopped at convenience store and Sandra bought cigarettes and was supposedly driven home. Unknown relative then drove kids back to their mother's house. Sandra wasn't supposed to babysit again til Friday so she disappeared between Wed. night and Fri. morning. Daughter tried to call Sandra on Thursday with news from repair shop but got no answer. Daughter went to drop off kids for Sandra to babysit on Friday morning and found her gone, back door open, lights on, air conditioning on, dogs water bowl empty, bed in disarray.

 

[rob68]

Does anyone remember in one of the first articles something to the effect of 'maybe she dropped (or popped) in on the homeless'? Wonder what that was all about. Maybe she knew some homeless people in the area? Maybe she had a giant wad of money under her mattress and scooped it up and took off to help the homeless? Just a wild guess...