Madeleine McCann 3 year old missing in Portugal - Part 13

[Edwards20]

Could it be possible that the child was disposed of early on and something the child was wrapped in/put in was put in the trunk of the new rental car weeks later that still had Maddie's scent and blood on it thus leaving residue in the new rental car. Maybe her body was never actually in the rental car, just things used to dispose of the child.

Interesting thought ..... and would "transfer" from "items" be scientifically possible ?

OK, so there had to be some other evidence to lead them to search a rental car that was rented 3-25 days AFTER the fact, right ?

Would there be something to indicate "probable cause" for a search warrant ? Or is that required ?

 

[MoonGoddess]

I posted early then had to leave and go in for test to find out if I had cancer.. As calous as this sounds this board has given me the distraction I have needed in a very difficult personal time. All the way to the doctor's this morning for test instead of thinking about me I was rambeling like a crazy woman to my husband about the latest developments with the McCann's.
I just found out I am cancer free and I get back and am 4 pages behind! See where my mind is?

Hi Jdee :angel:

I just wanted to say I am truly delighted that you have been given the all clear, I pray for your continued good health:blowkiss:

I am lurking and following the news closely at the moment - interesting times... Please God the Truth is on its way...

Love to you all... I am pretty exhausted right now as just back from a little trip...

See you all soon
Diane
X

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I am laughing but have I got a boatload of stuff to contribute.....

Where are you at....exactly.... Kool???

I'm hiding out, look up at the top right hand corner of my posts, uhm thinkin about movin though, te he.

We use to have a chronological thread in the Laci Peterson thread Montaingal did, it was awesome. For anyone that wanted to get straight to the facts, order of events, players involved, evidence, charges, it was all there so neatly combined and reader friendly.

Most forums don't have that anymore around here. Reading your posts, and I haven't kept up like alot of you have, I immediately recognized your ability to handle this. :dance:

Am I digging my hole deeper by the way? :behindbar

 

[concernedperson]

I always thought that Maddie was manhandled (maybe bled) and died of a heart attack and during the frantic attempt at resuscitation she was slapped, hence the blood splatters...

....just a theory...

Of course no one has said where on the wall the blood was but if you were slapped in the face, for instance, that could cause a nosebleed and the blood would drip down in a small child. For some reason I am thinking blood spatter and that an object was used to cause the blood to hit the wall. Even a fist hitting someone hard could cause spatter on the wall if her nose was broken.I guess what I am trying to say is that I am thinking volocity caused the spatter on the wall whether she was hit hard with a fist or an object.

 

[colomom]

I have spoken to my friend who was in PDL until yesterday. They have returned home and are preparing to pay you all a visit. Might be awhile (still recovering from the journey and lack of sleep) but get your questions ready....they have a story to tell!!!

 

[colomom]

I'm hiding out, look up at the top right hand corner of my posts, uhm thinkin about movin though, te he.

We use to have a chronological thread in the Laci Peterson thread Montaingal did, it was awesome. For anyone that wanted to get straight to the facts, order of events, players involved, evidence, charges, it was all there so neatly combined and reader friendly.

Most forums don't have that anymore around here. Reading your posts, and I haven't kept up like alot of you have, I immediately recognized your ability to handle this. :dance:

Am I digging my hole deeper by the way? :behindbar

:blowkiss: Kool....

I have family in South Carolina....heeheehee

I agree that a forum with separate threads for timelines, people involved, forensic evidence, Portuguese press, theories etc. would be very valuable. I know it can be hard to keep up, even for me.

I did promise my hubby I would get back to my "real" life soon though....oh well....duty calls....

Seriously though, I really like internet research....

 

[Beffie]

This is the first time I am posting to the Madeleine thread. Never understood why the parents would leave children alone while out dining and be surprised when something happened. Anyways, I have not been able to read everything, but just wanted to add about the blood. Could Madeleine have been frozen until they could dispose of the body? The reason I ask is when my dog died we wanted her cremated the vets froze her until she was transferred to the crematory and I seen her before she was cremated and she was defrosting and her nose was bleeding. I was concerned and they told me it is normal for the body to bleed after it was kept in a freezer. So, I was wondering if maybe that could be the reason for the blood and thought I would share my crazy theory.

 

[Taximom]

If she's officially charged with crimes, what's her future look like? I mean as far as where she'll be kept for the trial, how long will it take to get to a trial, what are sentences like over there for convictions (depending what the conviction is for), etc. If this is asking too much in advance, that's ok. I was just wondering.

 

[richandfamous]

This is the first time I am posting to the Madeleine thread. Never understood why the parents would leave children alone while out dining and be surprised when something happened. Anyways, I have not been able to read everything, but just wanted to add about the blood. Could Madeleine have been frozen until they could dispose of the body? The reason I ask is when my dog died we wanted her cremated the vets froze her until she was transferred to the crematory and I seen her before she was cremated and she was defrosting and her nose was bleeding. I was concerned and they told me it is normal for the body to bleed after it was kept in a freezer. So, I was wondering if maybe that could be the reason for the blood and thought I would share my crazy theory.

interesting thought!

 

[colomom]

This is the first time I am posting to the Madeleine thread. Never understood why the parents would leave children alone while out dining and be surprised when something happened. Anyways, I have not been able to read everything, but just wanted to add about the blood. Could Madeleine have been frozen until they could dispose of the body? The reason I ask is when my dog died we wanted her cremated the vets froze her until she was transferred to the crematory and I seen her before she was cremated and she was defrosting and her nose was bleeding. I was concerned and they told me it is normal for the body to bleed after it was kept in a freezer. So, I was wondering if maybe that could be the reason for the blood and thought I would share my crazy theory.

Veeery interesting thought....I am fairly familiar with the "surroundings" and am pretty certain there would not be a big enough freezer anywhere close...

 

[Edwards20]

OK, so if little Maddie was frozen ? WHERE could they keep her ? Wouldn't someone notice ? I am just trying to figure out with all the media surrounding them just exacty "when" they could have pulled this off. I am still just sick at my stomach.

 

[Nocgirl]

Have these parents been asked to take a polygraph?

 

[Lanie]

He also said "his" interview was longer than hers. Very defensive but narcissistic at the same time. I can't say I am surprised.

I'm so far behind, then I had to leave again, and the pages keep multiplying. I just had to comment on this, too, though. It's like he has to point out how much more he had to endure than she did, 2 WHOLE HOURS!! Next it will be the PLE had 22 questions for Kate, but they want to ask him 29!!! How will he bear it?
Lanie

 

[calus_3]

They took a suitcase to the beach????

They went to the beach at ALL?

I could see if the sibilngs were older and one family member took them to do something fun for them to get the sibling's minds off the family troubles but to pack up and go to the beach like nothing ever happened? I could see going to a local park to get the young children exercise. But bragging about dinner with friends, days at friend's pool, high tea with friends?......

This sounds like two of the most vain friends I ever had. They used to send out a Christmas and year's wrap up letter bragging about the cars they bought, the trips they took, the promotions he received. This is what their blog feels like. Not like the parents of a missing child.

Now stay with me here. If they killed her or someone abducted her.....wouldn't the misery and the guilt be close to the same? Either way, it would be on the opposite side of the spectrum of what these TWO are showing? In what world is their behavior okay? In what world does that happen and the person doing it think that it is okay? Perhaps in the world of some sociopathic serial killer that goes on with life like nothing happened. Not in the mind of a grieving family member.

I went through a spell of great stress over a job change. A JOB CHANGE. Very stressful. Everyone told me that I should go on with favorite activities so that I didn't get overwhelmed. I kind of agreed and I drove 2.5 hours to North Carolina to my favorite fishing river to fly fish. I stayed about 30 minutes and then drove back home. I didn't feel like fishing, I didn't feel like having fun, I didn't fee like doing anything but getting home and I didn't feel much like that. I couldn't have gone to the beach, to an amusement park, to high tea with friends, to freaking ANYWHERE and that was over a job change that was stressful. These people are COLD calculating people that can go on like nothing happned...except for the occasional update to their website to tell how Mrs. Vain made beat her own personal time in jogging.

Another thing. Their blog is completely devoid of emotion about the loss of their child. If I were updating it as some therapy for myself, it would be filled with "I can hardly function", "I can't eat", "the thought of how scared she is hurts my SOUL".

OMG I want to hit one of them!

Cal

p.s. When the movie comes out, Tea Leoni can play Mrs. McCann!

 

[mic730]

The last picture taken of Madeleine was at 2.30. pm
Was she seen alive in public any time after that?
When exactly did the McCanns arrive at the tapas bar?

If they have something to do with Madeleine's death, they must have hidden or disposed of the body between the time Maddie was last seen alive in public and their arrival at the bar.
But how could they possibly have done that, in broad daylight in a summer resort brimming with people? And then they sat down at the tapas bar with their friends, pulling off their deceptive scheme, playing the happy and carefree couple? All this sounds so incredible - I almost felt physically sick when hearing that the mother has been declared a suspect.

I think those are all fair questions. But that applies both ways to the parents being involved theory and the intruder theory. How did an intruder abduct Madeliene in a summer resort with lots of people and not be seen?

 

[michelle]

I just heard that the parents were suspects, how sad. I dont follow too much about this case, but poor maddie.

 

[ljwf22]

I just heard that the parents were suspects, how sad. I dont follow too much about this case, but poor maddie.

I agree, michelle. I don't want to believe the parents were involved but if that's where scientific evidence leads LE, so be it.

 

[Morag]

Presumably there were suitcases of friends and family which were put in the boot when Gerry drove them to the airport. It would be interesting to know if any of those suitcases had been checked for vestiges.

 

[Lanie]

I'm reading backward to try to be somewhat caught up. I read in one of the articles the DNA evidence took so long because there was so little of it, and it had to be 'duplicated' or 'grown' or something like that. That would add credence to transfer vs. actual bleeding.
Lanie

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

I have had knots in my stomach about this case all week. I tried to see if there was an alternative to the McCann's involvement . There just wasn't any way,... their story was like a seive carrying water.
Nancy Grace will be covering this story tonight.
God & the angels care for Madeleine safe in loving arms.