Madeleine McCann 3 year old missing in Portugal - Part 13

[colomom]

If she's officially charged with crimes, what's her future look like? I mean as far as where she'll be kept for the trial, how long will it take to get to a trial, what are sentences like over there for convictions (depending what the conviction is for), etc. If this is asking too much in advance, that's ok. I was just wondering.

It is a bit to soon to tell. The only "sentencing" information we have heard so far was with regards to "child neglect" charges that might have been filed. I believe it was a 4 to 7 year prison sentence for that alone.

There is a case in Portugal (see: http://portugalresident.com/portugalresident/showstory.asp?ID=10046) of a mother that reported her daughter missing and later was convicted of murdering her.

"The Public Ministry has pressed for jail terms of 24 years for the defendants, who are charged with qualified murder, as well as desecrating and concealing a body."

Might be a benchmark to refer to....

 

[mic730]

IF IT WAS an accident, why didn't she just call 911 or whatever they have other there instead of trying to hide it????

Good question! I am hoping we get more details ASAP.

 

[2sisters]

This does not suprise me, I suspected all along she was either involved or just a crappy mom who by neglect was responsible for this. Who leaves their 3 toddlers alone in a hotel room to go eat or whatever?

 

[Lurker]

If true, this is a total travesty. They lied to the Pope for cripes sake! There's a very special place in hell for people like them! 2 years? Are you freaking kidding me? 2 YEARS? WTF?
I hope everyone that donated money to find sweet Maddy files a class action lawsuit for emotional extortion. This is just beyond words!

 

[dimples37398]

Maybe the body was in or around the place where the towel or blanket was found early on....Remember when news broke of the letter from the psychic that told police where they could find maddie. Kate and Gerry were somewhere and didnt give any indication at all that they believed any part of the psychic's letter.

What if maddie was around there where the blanket or towel were found and they moved her after that because they got scared, what if whatever she was wrapped in or whatever her body was in got a little wet when they moved it and the blood got transfered or dripped to the trunk of the car. Maybe it was other bodily fluids since it had been a while since she was missing.......they just said DNA not really saying blood that I have seen(I could be wrong though).

I can't think of many more possibilities since she was missing so long, as to why her DNA/blood would be in the trunk of the car they rented 25 days after she was suppose to have went missing. They got scared and moved her from one place to another and whatever she was wrapped in/put in got wet and transfered the DNA/Blood to the trunk.

What does everyone else here think about what might have happened?

Kel

 

[tezi]

I can't say that I am shocked to read this, in fact, I have been expecting this turn of events.

In a way, Gerry reminds me of John Ramsey. He acts offended (in my view) when anyone seriously questions his and his wife's role in Maddie's disappearance. Just like John Ramsey acted about JonBenet's murder.

Since the Mrs. has been offered a plea deal, I wonder if her arrest is imminent?

BTW, thank you to our wonderful WS mods for setting up a forum for Maddie!!!!:woohoo::woohoo::blowkiss:

 

[Tricia]

Sure can. Their globe trotting and victim status heroes must have made them plain giddy. (If they are indeed guilty)

THAT IS RIGHT ON. Same with the Ramseys. They couldn't keep their mouths shut and loved the spotlight.

The big difference between the two sets of parents is the McCann's cooperated with the police. Not the Ramseys.

Still, the McCann's could have been so arrogant that they felt secure in their belief that they would get away with it. Plus all the world was with them in their sorry. And getting to meet the POPE? An added bonus.

IF, they really did it that is.

 

[sherri79]

maybe they did not kill her the night she went missing....
for example the child wont stop crying. dad hits her hard. her head hits a table. head wounds tend to bleed so now you have a hurt child and blood. they know as doctors that this wound is bad. they have a friend move maddie to their room and set up the whole kidnapping story. once they get her better they can drop her at a store and claim she was "found" but she gets worse. after a few weeks she either dies or they end it telling themselves it is a mercy killing at this point. now they have a body and no car. they rent a car and drop her into the sea. she has only been dead a short time and leaves blood in the trunk. the friends remain silent because at this point they are no longer witnesses but accomplices.

ok crazy theory but it could explain the blood in the car after so long.

 

[Tricia]

Tricica,

yours and others insights into Jon Benet Ramsey and Elizabeth Smarts case actually helps us tremendously here on this case, because the similarities in the parents behavior are noticable. Your questions are exactly what we need to be focusing on. Your experience and training you received keeping up with those cases brings the correct direction and focus to this one. Does that make any sense?

Being doctors, and their friends doctors, all kinds of scenerios are possible. Could she have been unconcious for those weeks, kept somewhere secret to try to revive her or see if she would possible come back and nothing they did medically could fix the damage done to her and she eventually died?

Somethign just dawned on me as I watched Kate's exit with her lawyer out of the police station then being physically directed to step backwards back on the platform to let photogs take pics of her with her lawyer:

Kate and Gerry have now disbursed. Went their own separate ways. That would also explain all this questioning separately. Two motives, two interests, two lawyers, hmmmm, where have we seen this scenerio before with rich well to do parents?

It appears to me the lawyers are now controlling all moves now. Kate's and we should soon be seeing Gerry's by his side.

Thank you for the new much needed forum, all of you are angels for the victims, heros to the armchair caring people of the victims.

Thanks for the info concerning Marc, I always respected him.

Thank you for your kind words KOOL LOOK. I am very distrustful of the "facts" when first reported by the media. It's always good to step back and be a bit cautious when reviewing the information.

If both parents are now "alone" than someone is going to turn on the other. Just my guess.

 

[poco]

This does not suprise me, I suspected all along she was either involved or just a crappy mom who by neglect was responsible for this. Who leaves their 3 toddlers alone in a hotel room to go eat or whatever?

Well, even if she didn't do IT, she should be charged for this for sure!

 

[englishleigh]

maybe they did not kill her the night she went missing....
for example the child wont stop crying. dad hits her hard. her head hits a table. head wounds tend to bleed so now you have a hurt child and blood. they know as doctors that this wound is bad. they have a friend move maddie to their room and set up the whole kidnapping story. once they get her better they can drop her at a store and claim she was "found" but she gets worse. after a few weeks she either dies or they end it telling themselves it is a mercy killing at this point. now they have a body and no car. they rent a car and drop her into the sea. she has only been dead a short time and leaves blood in the trunk. the friends remain silent because at this point they are no longer witnesses but accomplices.

ok crazy theory but it could explain the blood in the car after so long.

Maybe not all that crazy....if the PJ has serious forensic evidence against the McCanns, then they are involved and I think anything, at that point, is a possibility...

 

[colomom]

THAT IS RIGHT ON. Same with the Ramseys. They couldn't keep their mouths shut and loved the spotlight.

The big difference between the two sets of parents is the McCann's cooperated with the police. Not the Ramseys.

Still, the McCann's could have been so arrogant that they felt secure in their belief that they would get away with it. Plus all the world was with them in their sorry. And getting to meet the POPE? An added bonus.

IF, they really did it that is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

They love it, feed off it....Gerry is classic....IMHO

And yes, you are right....IF they did it. I am sure the PJ will be accused of all kinds of stuff.

 

[Tricia]

ok crazy theory but it could explain the blood in the car after so long.

It could be blood transfer from a towel or a blanket. It doesn't necessarily mean Maddie's body was in the trunk.

 

[2sisters]

I can not imagine what happened but I feel like the mom did something to her and have from the start. it seems to have been ignored by many that She left 3 toddlers alone in a hotel room to go to dinner. That sent up red flags of selfishness and neglect to me and if lower class folks had done this and not doctors they would have been thrown in jail so fast for neglect.
I wonder if while she was unattended madeline had some sort of accident. Maybe a fall that seriously injured her. Anyone who has kids around that age knows they are capable of MANY things that can cause bodily harm when left alone. Maybe the mom did not directly do anything.

 

[missjane_64]

First time posting on the MM case, but I always thought that something happened to Maddie while the parents were at dinner, too. Maybe she electrocuted herself with an appliance in the bathroom that was left plugged in. Maybe she climbed up on something and fell.

If it WAS an accident, then I cannot understand AT ALL how the parents would cover it up. IF this is what they did, it's truly stunning.

 

[Rhett]

I remember early on it said that mom McCann had trouble handling all three kids. Maybe do to stress she lashed out. Maybe she is in denial and can't admit it even to herself. I do think one or both did the crime. Bless Maddie's heart (my own daughter is named Maddi and this crushes me!)

 

[Jdee]

First time posting on the MM case, but I always thought that something happened to Maddie while the parents were at dinner, too. Maybe she electrocuted herself with an appliance in the bathroom that was left plugged in. Maybe she climbed up on something and fell.

If it WAS an accident, then I cannot understand AT ALL how the parents would cover it up. IF this is what they did, it's truly stunning.

I can. These were very selfish people with big egos. Their 'private lives' would be exposed, their careers ruined, their parenting skills out in the world for all to see. Dirty laundry everywhere.

 

[texasgirl]

My first time posting on this case as well....

Am I the only one that is thinking "witch hunt" here? I still don't understand how Maddie's blood could have gotten into a car rented 25 days after she went missing---while the WORLD watched the parents every action?! Not understanding this AT ALL!

I just still don't think they did it. BTW, LEO husband believes they did and always has. Not enough to convince me though.

 

[Jdee]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=129

the new Madeleine forum is up!

 

[christine2448]

This is prolly old news, y'all are so fast...but, I just read this, on the dad's blog.

Day 126 - 06/09/2007

Everyone will know that Kate attended for interview as a witness with the Portuguese police today. This is only the second time Kate has been interviewed and although it was a long day, going on past midnight, this was shorter than my second interview which lasted 13 hours! The suggestion that Kate is involved in Madeleines disappearance is ludicrous. Anyone who knows anything about the 3rd May knows that Kate is completely innocent. We will fight this all the way and we will not stop looking for Madeleine.