Malaysia airlines 370 with 239 people on board, 8 March 2014 #25

[Tulessa]

Ask me how much it would take to get me on a plane? I used to fly on our long trips. But now there's not enough money in the US Treasury, to make me climb on board. I haven't flown since 9 / 11.

 

[watcher9]

I have never flown on a plane before.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I'll try. Without going back to verify, I'm just going by memory which may not be too accurate.

First off, when the plane disappeared on March 8, 2014, it was thought to have gone down in the South China Sea or the Gulf of Thailand. Searches went on for some time before Malaysia released info that the plane had been seen on radar crossing the northern part of Malaysia.

The search then moved to the Andaman Sea, the Bay of Bengal, and then to the Indian Ocean. Tomnod got involved and people from all over searched through satellite pictures for signs of the plane. Unknown debris was spotted on these pictures but by the time the searchers were able to get there, they couldn't find it. By this time, most of the debris had already sunk to the bottom of the ocean or had been caught up in a garbage whirlpool swirling in the middle of the ocean.

Fast forward a year or so, Inmarsat, a telecommunications company in England, provided their theory that according to two pings they found from a satellite, the plane had gone down in either the northern or southern hemisphere on a certain parallel. Finally, they decided it was in the South Indian Ocean. They had to map the bottom of the ocean before actually beginning the search which is continuing to this day.

If they are searching in the right area, the theory is any of the debris that was still floating in the whirlpool in the middle of the South Indian Ocean would eventually make it to a shore on Africa over a two year period. When they talk about debris, it would include huge containers that fell from ships. A suitcase would be so small in comparison. I believe it was a little less than two years before the flaperon showed up.

Looking at the cartoon video of the debris moving around, I don't think much debris will ever make it that far to the west. The debris that did make it was probably slung out from the whirlpool and moved with the current before reaching a beach. And, also, before the search even moved to the Indian Ocean, we don't know how much debris if any that may have been found while cleaning beaches was probably discarded as trash from ships, etc.

A year or so? I thought the Inmarsat ping stuff came out within a couple of weeks?

 

[watcher9]

A year or so? I thought the Inmarsat ping stuff came out within a couple of weeks?

You are right!
Your memory is a lot better than mine. I was way off!

Inmarsat was actually in there from the beginning with their findings. Malaysia rejected their info for five days before Inmarsat pushed the issue and more radar findings were released. The search was moved to the South Indian Ocean on March 16, 2014, eight days after the plane disappeared. I was thinking it was a lot later than that!

http://www.ibtimes.com/mh370-malays...report-says-search-could-end-may-2015-1757171

 

[CoverMeCagney]

You are right!
Your memory is a lot better than mine. I was way off!

Inmarsat was actually in there from the beginning with their findings. Malaysia rejected their info for five days before Inmarsat pushed the issue and more radar findings were released. The search was moved to the South Indian Ocean on March 16, 2014, eight days after the plane disappeared. I was thinking it was a lot later than that!

http://www.ibtimes.com/mh370-malays...report-says-search-could-end-may-2015-1757171

I'll forgive you, it was a million threads ago!!

I always felt they never gave other search areas a chance, but nevertheless evidence of the crash was lost due to the huge amount of time it took to get boats to the alleged area. I am surprised more hasn't surfaced by now but perhaps these recent items are just the start. It's unlikely any bodies will ever be found but I thought other items, such as luggage and plane seats, might have bobbed up by now. Makes me think the plane has to be relatively intact somewhere. Perhaps over time and as the sea ravages the metal, one day something will burst open and more items will be found. The problem is it's so remote nobody will be watching.

I hope the laws have changed and no single human can turn off transponders, I hope ALL planes are GPS'd. They'll find today's Egyptian flight but the Med is a world away from where 370 allegedly went down. It's so sad and shocking - HOW can 239 people, tonnes of cargo and a huge aeroplane just disappear?! Crazy.

Thanks to everyone who keeps this thread "alive". Thoughts and ramblings over

 

[Roselvr]

A year or so? I thought the Inmarsat ping stuff came out within a couple of weeks?

1st hit on google when I highlighted Inmarsat ping, search with google lol
MH370: What does Inmarsat ping data reveal? Posted on June 11, 2014 - Since the Inmarsat ping data was released almost two weeks ago, I like many others have spent a good deal of time trying to discern what the data tells us, writes satellite technology expert Tim Farrar.

 

[ilovepierre]

I don't believe the pilot or co-pilot is to blame for this accident.
I believe something happened on the plane like an explosion or fire in the cargo area or a mechanical malfunction and the pilots tried everything they could until they died.

Time is running out on the search so every time I see a late post knowing it's daytime over there, I wonder if they found it. I sure hope it is soon.

An explosion wouldn't have caused the plane to fly for as long as it did.
Unless of course the explosion happened closer to where the debris is being found.
Mechanical failure COULD still be a possibility...but ACARS was manually turned off. I don't think mechanical failure could do that :dunno:

On another note: Does anyone think this Malaysia Airlines disappearance and the EgyptAir disappearance are related?

 

[ilovepierre]

I have never flown on a plane before.

Wow!
I was last on a plane April 7.

You'd think a plane disappearing would make me leery of flying, but nope!

 

[watcher9]

An explosion wouldn't have caused the plane to fly for as long as it did.
Unless of course the explosion happened closer to where the debris is being found.
Mechanical failure COULD still be a possibility...but ACARS was manually turned off. I don't think mechanical failure could do that :dunno:

On another note: Does anyone think this Malaysia Airlines disappearance and the EgyptAir disappearance are related?

When FOX first said that the plane disappeared right after signing off with Greece to transfer to Egypt's airspace, it made me take notice. Then, they mentioned reports of a fireball in the sky at the same time, the plane had gone up to 37,000 ft, and the stories kept changing. Others starting posting about number coincidences. I thought yep, this is just like MH370.

I guess it will be a wait and see until the plane is found and the black boxes retrieved.

 

[LinasK]

I have never flown on a plane before.

Well, I managed to not fly for over 12 years! Didn't fly after Sept 11th.

 

[LinasK]

I still feel the copilot was involved in some way.


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I think it was the pilot.

 

[ilovepierre]

When FOX first said that the plane disappeared right after signing off with Greece to transfer to Egypt's airspace, it made me take notice. Then, they mentioned reports of a fireball in the sky at the same time, the plane had gone up to 37,000 ft, and the stories kept changing. Others starting posting about number coincidences. I thought yep, this is just like MH370.

I guess it will be a wait and see until the plane is found and the black boxes retrieved.

Let's hope the black boxes and plane are found in a reasonable amount of time!

 

[Nocgirl]

I am still standing by my theory the jet did an intact landing on its belly. That explains the lack of debris like seat cushions and luggage.

 

[ilovepierre]

I am still standing by my theory the jet did an intact landing on its belly. That explains the lack of debris like seat cushions and luggage.

Earlier on in the search, there were Tomnod images that showed what looked like seat cushions floating in the water.
Whether that was from the plane or not is anyone's guess, though.

 

[watcher9]

Three new pieces of debris have been found in Mauritius and in Mozambique that could be linked to missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...le-mh370-link-australia/ar-BBtv6wx?li=BBnbcA1

 

[bradfordsleuth]

Three new pieces of debris have been found in Mauritius and in Mozambique that could be linked to missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...le-mh370-link-australia/ar-BBtv6wx?li=BBnbcA1

I get excited whenever I see that they are examining new debris that they are trying to link to MH370 and I remain hopeful that this mystery will soon be solved.

I think that if they try searching closer to the shorelines of Mauritius and Mozambique to see what is 'trying' to wash ashore there they may hit on something big. The recent findings of all of these new pieces of debris in the same areas could bring them closer to locating the actual aircraft if they work backwards.....JMO

 

[ilovepierre]

I get excited whenever I see that they are examining new debris that they are trying to link to MH370 and I remain hopeful that this mystery will soon be solved.

I think that if they try searching closer to the shorelines of Mauritius and Mozambique to see what is 'trying' to wash ashore there they may hit on something big. The recent findings of all of these new pieces of debris in the same areas could bring them closer to locating the actual aircraft if they work backwards.....JMO

BBM.
Me too!
Each piece of debris gets us one step closer to figuring out what happened.
It's a shame the black boxes couldn't/can't be found

 

[Roselvr]

Three new pieces of debris have been found in Mauritius and in Mozambique that could be linked to missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...le-mh370-link-australia/ar-BBtv6wx?li=BBnbcA1

Too bad they do not tell us what was found, hopefully they will release the info or photos

Earlier on in the search, there were Tomnod images that showed what looked like seat cushions floating in the water.
Whether that was from the plane or not is anyone's guess, though.

I still say they were related to the plane. I feel that they were just under the water level and is why they were not seen.

We don't know how much debris washed up on beaches that were thrown away because people didn't think to tie it to MH370 such as the 1st piece of luggage that was found. I do think the plane went in fairly intact, but with the interior piece being found, it's probably in 2 pieces.
I posted in the Flight 370 Tomnod images thread a few weeks ago, pasted in below.

Please discuss images viewed on tomnod here...

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/

relevant articles:

Tomnod, a crowdsourcing platform powered by satellite operator DigitalGlobe, joined the search for the vanished flight last week, with three million ordinary internet users using the website to scan more than 24,000 square kilometres of satellite imagery to help find the airplane.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/te...t-says-crowd-of-3-million-20140319-hvkcp.html

http://www.*************.com/n3/573...h370-but-tomnod-shows-power-of-crowdsourcing/

http://knlive.ctvnews.ca/thousands-...they-may-have-spotted-missing-plane-1.1736901

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/21/mh370-search-for-missing-plane-resumes-at-daybreak-live

Really wish we could figure out where debris were spotted using Tomnod vs where they're searching now

Could this be MH370? Found on tomnod - I hope it isn't but I have no other explanation for this. tomnod map 128148

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Satellite images provided by Thailand's Geo Informatics and Space Technology Development Agency show floating "objects" in the Indian Ocean. Photograph: Xinhua/Landov/Barcroft Media

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Possible airline debris spotted as Australia culls satellite images March 20, 2014

The search for a missing Malaysia Airlines flight intensified Thursday in the remote waters of the southern Indian Ocean after a Colorado company discovered that its satellite had captured images of two whitish objects floating in the ocean.

The images taken by DigitalGlobe’s WorldView-2 satellite were taken Sunday. They show one object that is about 80 feet long and another one that measures 15 feet.

Objects sighted may be linked to Flight MH370
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[Nocgirl]

I read this also on yahoo they linked up a BBC article. No info given on the debris I wonder what it is an when luggage and seat cushions will start turning up? That would be huge as well as finding the fuselage.

 

[bradfordsleuth]

I read this also on yahoo they linked up a BBC article. No info given on the debris I wonder what it is an when luggage and seat cushions will start turning up? That would be huge as well as finding the fuselage.

BBM
It is the first time that debris has been found and they have been this vague about the description of what was actually found....and I have to wonder why?

I am wondering if it is, in fact, a piece of luggage or a part of the interior cabin. I will be watching closely in the next few days to see what (if any) pictures surface. It seems that within a day or so of debris being found, pictures get released as well.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that this time, it is a 'big' find.