Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #21

[JerseyGirl]

Not me, i think the search has been reenergized with the pings.

But they haven't heard a Ping since Saturday.

 

[ElleElle]

Not sure if this has been posted.

Is this possible? TIA.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Yes, that's why I was thinking what would a diver do? Maybe he equipped with sonar radar detection? And since a diver can go deeper than surface, they can get closer to the black box.

Good question.
Wouldn't the TPL have had better success in detecting the ping?
Interesting.

 

[Hatfield]

Lots of work by lots of people in lots of countries all joining together. Inmarsat deserves heaps of kudos though getting them the arcs then the locations that were further refined by others.

I am holding off my Kudos to Immarsat until we find the plane for sure.

If it is here, then yes they will get all the congrats that put people in the right general spot.

I just keep having bad thoughts about those pings being from something like a Submarine or some other source.
If it wasnt for the China ship hearing it too I probably would not be so concerned. As well as it stopped pinging now even for the Northern ship. Kinda scary and not yet convinced but am hopeful it was it.

I have scary thoughts it could have been someone on a submarine playing his Boom Box very loud with a 1 second beat.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Seabed search must wait for more signals

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11234703

 

[time]

Not sure if this has been posted.

Is this possible? TIA.

Interesting where it ends up North. A plane taking the Northern route would only have to cross India as a possible hostile country? Would Indian be radarful (made up word) if a plane went through Bangladesh, Nepal (or China for Tibet, etc.) Also, since India has said it doesn't look much at it's coast, wonder if a plane could have gone around there and still fit on that arc although the graphic says 'no'.

Maybe this is all moot, but I'm still not quite buying the plane went South.

 

[aa9511]

BBM ~ I don't know how it all works, but it seems to me auto-pilot was enabled, and it got confused since it had no ground communication? It seems like the sharp turn indicates it was headed foe the nearest airstrip that can land MH370?

I hope aircraft are going to be equipped with GPS real soon.

Yeah sorry, I was talking about from the South turn to the pinger-location. I'll try to find a map or something.

 

[Elley Mae]

Interesting where it ends up North. A plane taking the Northern route would only have to cross India as a possible hostile country? Would Indian be radarful (made up word) if a plane went through Bangladesh, Nepal (or China for Tibet, etc.) Also, since India has said it doesn't look much at it's coast, wonder if a plane could have gone around there and still fit on that arc.

Maybe this is all moot, but I'm still not quite buying the plane went South.

bbm

I listen to a ham radio and I live in an area outside dc sharing time between md/va. You would be surprised at the # of pilots active/retired that have ham radio's. And talk while driving and at home. Alot <(not a word) of them agree with you, and lots of others are saying that they feel we are not hearing all that is known.

If this was a movie being made I can see it flashing over to Scott Glenn standing on deck looking with binoculars at all the ships/boats from the different counties in the ocean out in front of him and saying, "Gentlemen we are here for exercises to see what these guys have got, We have no idea where the plane is." jmo idk

 

[mck16]

Don't forget folks we have a Resources Thread for information that would be helpful to understand some of the technical aspects of this case. Feel free to post that information there instead of the main thread so we can easily keep track of it.

Thanks, Lambchop

How do I get to that thread? tia

 

[Hatfield]

Seabed search must wait for more signals

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11234703

I know they wanted more signals but if they dont hear anymore I would hope they could send down the "??? 21" submersable anyway and try to see if they can spot the plane by its side sonar.

It would be worth a try I would think. I realize they wanted to better triangulate and try to pinpoint where the sound was coming from but they should be able to try some best guesses and give it a try.

They may get really lucky and just happen to spot debris down on bottom.

I suppose it all depends on the data they captured and if they think they have enough to make a best guess as to where it is.

 

[LambChop]

How do I get to that thread? tia

This thread is up with the Media News, Maps, etc.

Resources - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

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bbm

I listen to a ham radio and I live in an area outside dc sharing time between md/va. You would be surprised at the # of pilots active/retired that have ham radio's. And talk while driving and at home. Alot <(not a word) of them agree with you, and lots of others are saying that they feel we are not hearing all that is known.

If this was a movie being made I can see it flashing over to Scott Glenn standing on deck looking with binoculars at all the ships/boats from the different counties in the ocean out in front of him and saying, "Gentlemen we are here for exercises to see what these guys have got, We have no idea where the plane is." jmo idk

:floorlaugh: I could vividly picture that scene!

I'm glad I don't sound like a lunatic. I just can't shake the feeling that the Southern route doesn't make as much sense.

 

[ElleElle]

:floorlaugh: I could vividly picture that scene!

I'm glad I don't sound like a lunatic. I just can't shake the feeling that the Southern route doesn't make as much sense.

BBM ~ That word made me :giggle:

As much as I have faith in MH370 being West of Australia, I still will not discount that it could of taken the northern arc.

:moo:

 

[watcher9]

bbm

I listen to a ham radio and I live in an area outside dc sharing time between md/va. You would be surprised at the # of pilots active/retired that have ham radio's. And talk while driving and at home. Alot <(not a word) of them agree with you, and lots of others are saying that they feel we are not hearing all that is known.

If this was a movie being made I can see it flashing over to Scott Glenn standing on deck looking with binoculars at all the ships/boats from the different counties in the ocean out in front of him and saying, "Gentlemen we are here for exercises to see what these guys have got, We have no idea where the plane is." jmo idk

Funny you mentioned about a movie possibility.
I just saw an article discussing the possibility of a movie.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-exploring-a-malaysia-airlines-690823

Discovery Channel is producing a documentary on this crash.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/discovery-networks-international-orders-special-692946

I happened to find those articles when I was searching for James Cameron and his challenger going deep into the sea in the search for the Titantic. I was thinking maybe they could use his sub to find this plane. He did complete an exploration around Guam last year.

http://deepseachallenge.com/

Apparently, there are others also interested in searching the unknown parts of our world. From an article two years ago in March so time's up!

Cameron won't be alone in trying to follow Walsh. But the next up is likely to be Branson. His company last year bragged that it's been to all seven continents and is going into space, so a $17 million sub venture is the next logical step. Google founder Schmidt is helping fund a $40 million effort by California-based DOER Marine to work on a more science-oriented human deep sea sub that is at least two years away. Also said to be in the hunt is Triton Submarines in Florida, a firm with no celebrity connection.

http://www.manufacturing.net/news/2012/03/james-cameron-others-to-explore-pacifics-abyss

 

[ElleElle]

Funny you mentioned about a movie possibility.
I just saw an article discussing the possibility of a movie.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-exploring-a-malaysia-airlines-690823

Discovery Channel is producing a documentary on this crash.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/discovery-networks-international-orders-special-692946

I happened to find those articles when I was searching for James Cameron and his challenger going deep into the sea in the search for the Titantic. I was thinking maybe they could use his sub to find this plane. He did complete an exploration around Guam last year.

http://deepseachallenge.com/

Apparently, there are others also interested in searching the unknown parts of our world. From an article two years ago in March so time's up!

Cameron won't be alone in trying to follow Walsh. But the next up is likely to be Branson. His company last year bragged that it's been to all seven continents and is going into space, so a $17 million sub venture is the next logical step. Google founder Schmidt is helping fund a $40 million effort by California-based DOER Marine to work on a more science-oriented human deep sea sub that is at least two years away. Also said to be in the hunt is Triton Submarines in Florida, a firm with no celebrity connection.

http://www.manufacturing.net/news/2012/03/james-cameron-others-to-explore-pacifics-abyss

:facepalm: Don't ya think it's a little soon, Hollywood?

 

[watcher9]

:facepalm: Don't ya think it's a little soon, Hollywood?

At the bottom of that article, one producer says it's not a project for him.

"I think people will wait to see how [the investigation] turns out," says Alex Heineman, who produced this year's hit airline thriller Non-Stop, which has earned $143 million worldwide to date. "They say truth is stranger than fiction, and this story is so bizarre. No one knows what happened -- or maybe people do, and they're not saying what happened."

Still, Heineman says it's not a project for him.

"I wouldn't chase a story like this -- a true-life disaster story -- because it's sad, and I don't want to be exploiting that kind of situation," he says.

 

[Isabelle]

I thought I posted this but guess I didn't. I have my doubts that the plane went south. If the radar/satellite data had directional information (where the plane was at time of ping/handshake in Long/Lat) it could have just as well travelled north.

 

[ElleElle]

link

 

[Elley Mae]

The ocean floor in the Air France crash was nearly 2.5 miles deep, with forbidding peaks and valleys. It took small robotic submarines provided by the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution nearly 60 trips under the surface before the black boxes were discovered.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...4.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird

 

[JaimeInLA]

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/world/the-depth-of-the-problem/931/

Wow. Just WOW. For anyone who likes good graphics, check out that link. My mind is kind of blown at what the search teams are dealing with here. I knew it was deep, but this really helps put it into perspective. Very cool.