Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #5

[revampz]

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/13/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/


this is the latest I could find from CNN.....you probably have heard this over there already...

interesting that they are saying that the emergency beacon that goes of when a plane hits the water did not go off either..............hhmmmmmm

 

[ElleElle]

What would have caused that to happen, and why wouldn't the pilot relay that information to ground control? What would have kept the plane flying for four hours afterwards? Why would it have happened in the short time that the plane was between radars?

I think it's is one of those it's too late now/doom situations, unfortunately.

Can they turn on auto-pilot and it going to manual and screwing up the whole electrical system? TIA to pilots and other airline WS'ers.

 

[momrids6]

IIRC there was no Wifi on this plane!?

Being up in the air, I would suppose it isn't easy to tell whether you're off course or not as a layperson?


Yoda, how do I choose a specific pannel on tomnod? Haven't figured that out yet. Do I have to register in before?

Using Yoda's link- then change the number at the end . Tomnod is down at the moment though

 

[sammi89]

BBM ~ Exactly. Most people have cell phones and it a FA walked into the cockpit and noticed something suspicious wouldn't a call or 2 be made?

I'm not a FA, but if I walked in and the crew's behavior is suspicious, I would not shake it off.

With that being said, a couple of things:

1. Maybe the Captain/Co had specific rules not allowing anyone in?
2. Maybe since everything looks the same, no one thought they were off course?

In regards to 1, they seemed to follow some relaxed rules in regards to allowing people in lol. Even if they did, if the FAs realized something was amiss and needed to get in, they should know where the hidden axe is, right? I'm not sure though - I am just guessing they would know.

2 I think is possible but at the same time you would think at least someone on the plane would have noticed the pilot had failed to speak for awhile. Maybe they were sleeping though? I wonder if the FAs would have noticed the drop and failure to get back up?

 

[revampz]

Head up Aussies! The new map has you in it... get out there and start looking!

haha there was a low flying plane yesterday and I thought to myself "could be Malaysian Airlines!!".........and had a giggle to myself...

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Cnn is now talking about scenarios where some could have survived the crash...

This is really just nuts. Good roasted pistachio nuts.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Does the back-up one turn on automatically if the main transponder fails or does the back-up have to be manually turned on by the pilot/co-pilot?

From what I've read, it has to be turned on manually.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Totally confused by this latest report and cannot imagine how the aircraft flew for hours after it's last communication and was totally off the radar, didn't collide with another aircraft in the sky, wasn't seen by pilots of another aircraft, and so forth.

:waitasec:

MOO

I guess that's why they think it's somewhere deep in the Indian Ocean, there's nothing out there, no other place to land, no other planes.

 

[revampz]

And yes Chilly Willy.....I find it too coincidental that it all happened in between switching between two different airspaces and traffic controllers.

 

[Plumeria5]

Heads up Aussies! The new map has you in it... get out there and start looking!

How do you know where your map is located and how do you go to a specific map?

 

[Scottndianner]

What's up with passenger 84? The blurred out passenger name on the flight manifest?

 

[TGIRecovered]

I wonder how the passengers would have been prevented from trying to use their cell phone or ipad to send a message once the plane went off course. It is plausible that they may not have been aware that they were off course at first, but even if a hijacker took all of their phones it would be hard to prevent someone from sending a message once they saw the other passengers phones being taken up.




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[SeriouslySearching]

346159. Anyone looking at tomnod. There is a lot of debris or something in about 20 panels I have been looking at. Could someone go to the panel number I posted and See what you think? It's 2 or 3 things in each panel. Nothing like any of the other panels I looked at. Tia

Here's a link to another panel.
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/350826

I can't find that panel, but you could do a ctrl + Print/screen then pull up paint and hit ctrl + v to copy then save it. Upload your find here.

ETA: Found it and I see nothing out of the norm there.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I think it's is one of those it's too late now/doom situations, unfortunately.

Can they turn on auto-pilot and it going to manual and screwing up the whole electrical system? TIA to pilots and other airline WS'ers.

For it to be a too late situation, the plane would have had to drastically and quickly lose altitude, with no time for the pilot to respond to the blaring alarms and warning lights. What could have happened that was that catastrophic yet would have left the plane mechanically sound enough to continue flying for four more hours? How do you account for the 13 minutes between the time the two communication systems were shut off?

 

[revampz]

What's up with passenger 84? The blurred out passenger name on the flight manifest?

I think it was Sapphire Steel or someone else said that that is the name of the Uigher!!!!!! bit spooky it was blurred out.

He is a electronics professor and had been doing flying time in Europe somewhere...

 

[cluciano63]

IF this was pilot suicide...could he have put something in the co-pilot's coffee to knock him out, making him "mumble" if he was the one who spoke to ground control briefly? Yeah, just another conspiracy theory, I guess...

 

[momrids6]

How do you know where your map is located and how do you go to a specific map?

Fox news just showed the updated radius map on where the plane could have gone. I believe one of the newest radius maps is also the one Kimi kindly resized for us a few posts ago.

Also-

One pilot could not both fly the plane and go pull the ACARS breaker which is below-deck, below the gally (and not easy to quickly get to) per a 777 pilot just on CNN

 

[CARIIS]

http://www.nbcnews.com/#/storyline/...jet-probe-will-become-criminal-inquiry-n51036

 

[ElleElle]

thanks for this.......

for we non technical minded people this is quite hard to get a grip on,...I start reading the technical stuff and it starts going 'blah blah blah oh the washing has finished' in my head...

also I am multitasking here, selling on ebay, housework and this all at the same time, so I do miss pages and skim through them as it moves so fast and is hard to catch up.....

so for those who are like me, we do appreciate you technies explaining this to us over and over......we are not stupid, just have talents in other areas :drumroll:

So, now I am getting that re the data being sent back to Rolls Royce etc had stopped (not subscribed to) , as well as the transponder (switched off) but there was still a pinging to the satellites saying "I have data"..

Now for the question: is this how they are determining it was flying for four hours? by these pings? and if that is how, then will it still ping underwater or if crashed as well? (hope that doesn't seem silly to ask)

Thanks manpam also for explaining re this data collection on the last thread....

Now re the gps on planes....on our news program last night they said there was new technology that tracks planes at all times, however not everyone is using it yet...Australia only on a certain type of plane, I think the US has it on all they said......they gave a list of countries using it.... but not Malaysia

This why explain why calls were being connected to the passengers on the plane, via GPS.

They need to track the phone calls to MH370 and see where they were pinging. :moo:

I'm glad Boeing finally stepped in.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Interesting. It would have to be an organization or country unable to build their own aircraft for this to make more sense to me. Otherwise, it is just too attention-drawing and risky to make any sort of sense if hijacking the plane wasn't going to be the primary purpose meant to "make a statement".

Just jumping off your post...

could the people hijacking the plane want to use it for "reverse engineering " purposes...(I hope that is the term)...

they may want to learn how to create their own system of target... If not the whole plane itself?

:waitasec: