Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #8

[Waddles]

It's just not making sense, I agree with you about the pilot. I can understand him being upset but to take to this is not adding up to me. The other thing is that to me he would have crashed it into something/place to make his opinion known. Why fly the plane to nowhere?

Seems to me to be some kind of an extreme joyride. Like his 'last hurrah'.

also agree with Jilly's conclusion

 

[fruity]

There is speculation that a sabotage plan would have needed help from ground control.


http://mobile.news.com.au/travel/tr...no-sign-of-plane/story-fnizu68q-1226856429922

AS the focus of investigators turns to those on board MH370, a former international pilot has said ground personnel would have been needed to assist in any attempt at a key sabotage theory.


Military radar shows the missing jet climbed to 45,000ft and turned sharply to the west before descending unevenly to 23,000ft on the approach to Penang — on the western side of the Malaysian peninsula. It then climbed back to 35,000ft.


One theory is that this was a deliberate manoeuvre to knock out the passengers and crew.

One Boeing 777-200 pilot, who asked not to be named, said climbing above the plane’s service limit of 43,100ft with a depressurised cabin would have achieved that effect.


But retired United Airlines Captain Gary Brauch, who has nearly 40 years experience on the flight deck including 19 years flying Boeing 777s and Boeing 747s, says the captain would have needed help on the ground.


“My recollection of the aircraft systems is that you cannot shut off the passenger oxygen supply from the cockpit or at all in flight,” he said.

(More at link, I have to cut a lot to keep it under 10%)

 

[Phosphor]

We're writing fiction, aren't we?

Are some of these threads and reasonings considered in cases? at least sometimes? Do you think?

 

[Ravynne]

My fiction writing makes me queasy. Keep wanting the U.S. to get out. The others countries too. Feels like a trap.

Agreed! This is why it took me so long to post it. Back and forth, back and forth my thoughts go with each MSM revelation and all theories here. Oh, and I need to mention trying to figure out the ones that are plausible. I usually wait to form an opinion and like to entertain all for a moment, but I feel like the entire media and some gov. Are participating in "let's see if this theory works".

I hope we find the truth.
Sorry for the rant.

Ty

 

[Brightbird]

We're writing fiction, aren't we?

Kind of like a Rorschach test, and we're projecting our collective fears and anxieties onto it.

 

[Ravynne]

Are some of these threads and reasonings considered in cases? at least sometimes? Do you think?

Gotta be, there always one "crazy" in the group that thinks different!:floorlaugh:
Oh, just to add I'm usually that person. Lol

 

[popsicle]

CCTVNEWS ‏@cctvnews 2m
Malaysian authorities: We are seeking continued international cooperation; 26 countries now involved in the search.#MH370

CCTVNEWS ‏@cctvnews 2m
Malaysian authorities: Investigations shift to all plane crew members; investigators have spoken to family of pilot.#MH370

CCTVNEWS ‏@cctvnews 58s
Malaysia has been cooperating with FBI and Interpol since Day 1, says Malaysian acting Transport Minister at news briefing.#MH370

https://twitter.com/cctvnews

 

[newone]

well the news conference was a good p.r. exercise

 

[squeaky]

CNN felt it was a good time to go to commercial I guess?! Thank goodness for Skynews

 

[hambirg]

I finally caught up! :woohoo:

It just make me wonder, again, what was really in the cargo area of this plane.

Wasn't it reported that it was the ONLY plane who's cargo wasn't screened? That's just too weird to me. I'd like to know what was really in the cargo area. Sadly I don't think we ever will.

I do find this article interesting but only because of the fake photo showing the same shoes for both guys with the fake passports.

I just wonder why we cant see the other guys shoes..

Better yet why show us any shoes?
I mean , there must be something for them to be talking about for the whole same legs issue to come about anyway right?

*please delete if not allowed*

They claimed (and at that time wiht all the other blunders they were making sounded credible to me!0 that they accidently placed both pictures on the zerox machine together who knows huh!

BBM

:cough:bull:cough

You can't get that pic by putting the two together in a copy machine. It was intentional. Why?

As far as the pilot, I don't think he took this plane. He just doesn't fit the profile for me. He's been flying for 30yrs, he's stable, etc.

I did read this article. It's an opinion piece from Slate, so keep that in mind. But it makes a lot of sense to me. It also explains his family's outrage. I think he's a patsy.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...pported_anwar_ibrahim_was_he_a_terrorist.html

 

[Ravynne]

I tried Al Jazeera America and it wasn't on!

 

[newone]

I tried Al Jazeera America and it wasn't on!

WOW that says it all

 

[newone]

From Hambirg's post above

As far as the pilot, I don't think he took this plane. He just doesn't fit the profile for me. He's been flying for 30yrs, he's stable, etc.

I did read this article. It's an opinion piece from Slate, so keep that in mind. But it makes a lot of sense to me. It also explains his family's outrage. I think he's a patsy.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...pported_anwar_ibrahim_was_he_a_terrorist.html[/QUOTE]

snipped by me

it was a good read from your link

"Anwar is trying to defeat Malaysia’s authoritarian regime through elections—not terrorism, let alone revolution. So, to be clear, what we know is that the pilot of MH370 is a fanatical supporter of a nonviolent man who supports a pluralistic and democratic Malaysia."

The article emphasized the hyperbole of the description of the pilot as typical government reaction to anyone who is deemed threatening to the current regime.

 

[gramcracker]

Morning Joe on MSNBC appears to have a well-rounded group of aviation experts sitting at its round table this morning (LOL, assuming that you can tolerate Mika)

 

[gregjrichards]

No news from the press conference again I wonder how much longer they will be doing them if nothing happens anytime soon. I also worry that the search may be unfortunately scaled down soon because countries aren't going to be willing to spend the money searching long term

I just can't believe that a pilot who cared about the injustice of the opposition leader being arrested for being gay would go ahead and kill 238 people if he cares about democracy so much. Surely this means he cares about other people, peace and fairness.

Does anyone think it may be helpful for a reward to be offered for information which may help the criminal investigation because someone might know something about what has happened?

 

[popsicle]

CCTVNEWS ‏@cctvnews 10m
Malaysian authorities: co-pilot last in contact with ATC. ACARS switched off at 1:09; co-pilot's last communication was at 1:19.#MH370

CCTVNEWS ‏@cctvnews 3m
Malaysian authorities update ACARS switched off between 1:07-1:37.#MH370

https://twitter.com/cctvnews

 

[newone]

"Several nations will be embarrassed by how easy it is to trespass their airspace," said Air Vice Marshal Michael Harwood, a retired British Royal Air Force pilot and ex-defense attache to Washington DC. "Too many movies and Predator (unmanned military drone) feeds from Afghanistan have suckered people into thinking we know everything and see everything. You get what you pay for. And the world, by and large, does not pay.”


http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_t...the_missing_airliner_could_be_in_central.html

In this link the author indicates just how many countries are really ''exposed'' - they simply do not have radar detection to observe their airspace. India turns off its radar and does not run it 24/7. The author indicates that the person in charge of the flight knew this and that in fact the plane could easily be in central asia -- based on the latest info provided by the two arcs on the maps supplied.

 

[momrids6]

MH370 hacked with mobile phone, says expert
Dr Sally Leivesley, a former science advisor for the UK's Home Office, told the Sunday Express that "malicious codes" buried in the Boeing 777's computers could have been triggered by a mobile phone or USB stick.
That may have initiated a "set of processes" which would allow the plane's speed, altitude and direction to be remotely controlled, Dr Leivesley speculated.

bbm

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/03/17/11/11/mh370-hacked-with-mobile-phone

 

[JerseyGirl]

Investigators Fly Identical Plane on Same Flightpath

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/missing-ma...s-fly-identical-plane-same-flightpath-1440498

The re-enactment confirmed speculation that it banked west, said a senior Malaysian military official on Sunday.

The identical plane generated radar and satellite data that appears to match data provided by MH370, according to the Malaysian Insider.

"The idea of the flight was to find out the possible direction the missing plane could have gone," an official told AFP.

The official said new findings generated data believed to show the missing plane diverted from its intended flight path across the South China Sea, returned back across Malaysia and then travelled northwest towards the Andaman Sea.

 

[highflyer]

Gotta be, there always one "crazy" in the group that thinks different!:floorlaugh:
Oh, just to add I'm usually that person. Lol

Being "crazy" isn't a bad thing but I suppose it skews the results.