Man seen carrying diaper clad baby

[Patty G]

I am horrible with faces, anyone else think these are different women?

Nope, not me.

I am back at three:
husband and wife team = 2
motorcycle dude - 1

 

[Abby Normal]

I am horrible with faces, anyone else think these are different women?

I'm just average with faces- but when I compared them side by side 2nd video woman has more hair, darker eyebrows (they could be makeup), sleeker cheeks and chin, her eyes are less "deep set"

BUT- her ears and shoulders have the exact same shape now that I look further from the face. So I could absolutely be wrong. Actually this time I turned on audio and they sound similar too
:truce:

I don't know- it just doesn't make sense if she is saying she saw it on TV after she also went on TV and said she didn't

 

[Wendy101]

It's not one "lead." These "sightings" are hours apart. So we are supposed to believe this dude or dudes walked around for hours with a baby? And after 4 am (second witness claim) police was already out there responding to 911 call and then looking for Lisa. So how likely is it that police never noticed a dude with a baby just walking around?

BBM: This kidnapper obviously did not have a vehicle, I wonder if this "man" that people are reporting seeing, is a large teenager.....:waitasec:

 

[JeannaT]

It is a different woman. So her story didn't change, she has a different story and we don't know the exact location of her alleged sighting.

First woman whose husband allegedly sighted a man with a baby at about the 1:55 mark:
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...d-saw-man-carrying-baby-wearing-only-a-diaper

Motorcycle man who allegedly saw the same, as well as the woman who claims to have seen that- she comes on about the 1:25 mark.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-eyewitnesses-speak-14785603

I thought it was the same woman just with her hair/makeup done until I started looking closely at specific facial details. And the 2nd lady has a lot more hair.

I think it's the same woman in both. In one she has make up on and looks cleaner, in the first one (where she's in front of her house) it looks like she hasn't had a chance to fix herself up that morning.

Both videos show women making the same grammatical mistake of "we seen", and in both interviews she speaks of her husband, and they've only got two sighting locations on the map - her sighting, and the motorcycle guy sighting.

Pretty sure it's the same woman.

 

[TheDuchess]

Huh? While this neighborhood is predominately white, it is mixed. No one race would stick out here.

I believe that someone may stick out if they are of one race and the child they are carrying is of another. I say that because I am white and my daughter is African American. We get lots of looks-not rude necessarily, but more inquisitive. I don't mind, as I understand that someone's immediate reaction may be that we are unrelated and need to kind of figure it out before realizing that we are, in fact, mother and daughter.

I would imagine that we stick out in a crowd and, if asked, one of the first things someone would say to describe us would be-the white lady with the black daughter. Like I said-I don't mind-variety is the spice of life and we love being unique!

 

[Abby Normal]

If they are different women then that is 5 people that saw a guy with a baby in a diaper that night.

I agree, but if they are the same it's only 2 people because we have her on video saying she didn't see it. BAH!

No, you're probably right... my first thought was that it was the same woman just "done up" and that it probably what it was.

 

[lonetraveler]

Reporter says police are discounting the story this morning of a man being seen with a baby near the home.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/44987184#44987184

Thanks, Doc. Has it been determined if the neighbor who reported the man carrying the child is the same neighbor who was sitting on the porch socializing with DB?

Oops, that is what I get for posting before I get caught up. Sorry, Doc. this subject is covered very well up thread.

 

[Codger]

<Respectfully snipped by me.>

Second. If, and that is a BIG if this is somehow the same guy walking with a baby from 12 AM to an intersection at 4AM, where was he walking to and how long did he have to walk to the Irwin home? Or was he already there partying or hanging out, somewhere in the neighbrhood without a car...that;s four hours of walking with a baby...hinky...

Well, just to play devil's advocate for a second... Maybe he wasn't walking the entire 4 hours. Maybe he had wheels he walked to when first spotted + had just gotten out of them at the 4am sighting. In between could be anywhere. If he's seen around 12am near the house on a perpendicular street + 4 hours later it's up where motorcycle guy saw him... it's possible he stopped somewhere in between? Like an abandoned house or something.

I "think" it's about 3 miles between the 2 locations. Out of curiosity, how long would that take to walk?
You know what I really don't like about all this? I'm not from the area, so I have to rely on maps + looking at motorcycle guy's location of sighting... that's right across the way from a few cemeteries.

Always, all of it, JMO.

 

[JeannaT]

I'm just average with faces- but when I compared them side by side 2nd video woman has more hair, darker eyebrows (they could be makeup), sleeker cheeks and chin, her eyes are less "deep set"

BUT- her ears and shoulders have the exact same shape now that I look further from the face. So I could absolutely be wrong. Actually this time I turned on audio and they sound similar too
:truce:

I don't know- it just doesn't make sense if she is saying she saw it on TV after she also went on TV and said she didn't

In the first interview I don't think she ever specifically said she didn't see the man, she merely didn't seem to ever say she DID. She says her husband regrets not calling the police, but she never describes that he told her about the sighting. Puzzling.

 

[belimom]

But what about this man? He's new... and it was 4:00am... (This is different from the first man, right? If I'm mistaken, please let me know - I haven't read back in this thread yet b/c I'm sick and just tuning in today... )

Man Calls Police After Possible Baby Lisa Sighting

...Mike Thompson said he saw the man wearing a T-shirt and carrying a baby near Lisa's home at about 4 a.m. on Tuesday Oct. 4

...Thompson said the baby resembled Lisa, and that he would be able to identify the man if he ever saw him again....

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/29547997/detail.html#ixzz1bQxO4XMW

 

[uvamerica]

If they are different women then that is 5 people that saw a guy with a baby in a diaper that night.

It is the same woman in both interviews !! You are right !! :rocker:

 

[MamaK]

I am horrible with faces, anyone else think these are different women?

I watched both videos and I believe that it is the same woman in both clips. In the 2nd clip, she is wearing makeup but it is the same woman. MOO

 

[HatesSociopaths]

Who does Debbie know that is a black male?

 

[JeannaT]

Well, just to play devil's advocate for a second... Maybe he wasn't walking the entire 4 hours. Maybe he had wheels he walked to when first spotted + had just gotten out of them at the 4am sighting. In between could be anywhere. If he's seen around 12am near the house on a perpendicular street + 4 hours later it's up where motorcycle guy saw him... it's possible he stopped somewhere in between? Like an abandoned house or something.

I "think" it's about 3 miles between the 2 locations. Out of curiosity, how long would that take to walk?
You know what I really don't like about all this? I'm not from the area, so I have to rely on maps + looking at motorcycle guy's location of sighting... that's right across the way from a few cemeteries.

Always, all of it, JMO.

MM hm. Almost anything is possible here. He could have stopped at a house and handed the baby off to the second man. One could have had Baby Lisa, and maybe one was a completely 'nother random man with another baby. They could both be random men with different unrelated babies.

Anything is possible.

 

[Patty G]

Let's take a vote.

Who thinks the two women are the same woman? Click the thanks button.

 

[TheDuchess]

I just looked at the map and the motorcycle guy's sighting is nowhere near the home! I googled the directions and it is an hour walk. I notice that there are what appears to be multi-family housing near that area. It is quite possible that someone was picking up or dropping off their baby at day care at that hour on the way to work?

 

[Patty G]

Let's take a vote.

Who thinks the two women are NOT the same woman? Click the thanks button.

 

[Abby Normal]

I think it's actually 3 different sightings . . . at least that is what I am understanding from the articles I have read. I get way too confused reading posts.

That IS what the article said. I'm not sure if we can believe what articles say anymore :waitasec: but that is what was said. Even if they are the same woman, there could be another sighting that is talking to LE but not the media. ?? I don't know.

 

[Patty G]

Who does Debbie know that is a black male?

That is the question of the day.

 

[In da Middle]

This is completely MOO so take it or leave it. I really think that one needs to be careful when making a definitive decision in their mind whether someone is guilty or innocent based on media interviews. DB and JI are NOT media savvy individuals. The media can and will spin a person's own statements in whatever way will be the most sensational for them. I can guarantee that if you were bestfriends with DB and wanted to tell the media some information about DB's character, they would slice and dice that interview until you made her out to be the devil. MOO :twocents: That's why I'm sitting on this fence until I hear some actual facts. All we know definitevely is that a baby is missing. :fence:

Yes they will! If you will notice you have not seen any interviews with neighbors here since the first couple of days. I have talked to a couple of the ones interviewed and they said that is exactly what happened to them. By the time it was aired, it was not what they were saying.