VERDICT WATCH MI - Dee Ann Warner, 52, last seen @ home, Tecumseh, 25 Apr 2021

[InkyEvie]

I'm intrigued by the defense asking about the cough DW allegedly had, I am sure that will some how feature in there closings, plus they may through Dee brother under the bus

Same, I feel like I missed something from earlier on. Does anyone know what the questions about the cough are about?

They are definitely trying to cast doubt on DW by going after GH. It's sad. MOO

 

[Vaderman]

I missed the live stream Monday and Tuesday and I just finished up with yesterday's. I spent far too long searching Youtube for closing arguments before realizing today is not Thursday

MOO

I blame the court for their slow pace. When I got the news notification that the defense rested before 11 a.m. yesterday, I was ready for closing arguments. Nope, court dismissed by noon.

 

[InkyEvie]

I blame the court for their slow pace. When I got the news notification that the defense rested before 11 a.m. yesterday, I was ready for closing arguments. Nope, court dismissed by noon.

I was surprised by how short the defense's case was, particularly given how long-winded the attorney was. It's a thin case but I figured they'd drag it out a bit. MOO

ETA: "thin case" as in weak defense... IMO

 

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[joe jones]

ready for closings, I think the defense closing might be wild,

 

[Megnut]

Live

 

[Vaderman]

Bring on the jury.

 

[Trime]

Confidence level must be off the charts if you ask for an involuntary manslaughter option.

 

[Vaderman]

Confidence level must be off the charts if you ask for an involuntary manslaughter option.

I caught the tail end of that and wondered what was going on:

Live updates: Closing arguments in Dale Warner murder trial; jury begins deliberations

Dale Warner, 58, is accused of killing his wife, Dee Warner, 52, in Lenawee County in 2021. Follow along here for live updates from the courtroom.

www.wtol.com

9:55 p.m.​

The defense requests voluntary manslaughter be added to the jury instructions, arguing that Dee's intention to tell Dale she wanted a divorce "could be provocation for a heat of passion moment."

Judge Michael Olsaver said there is no or little evidence of what Dee did or said on April 24, 2021, but that there is evidence that she intended to tell Dale she wanted a divorce and wanted to sell the trucking business.

Olsaver Dale acknowledged that an argument happened based on his statements. Olsaver said Dale told Det. Kevin Greca that it wasn't the worst argument they've ever had but told Gregg Hardy that it was a hell of a fight.
Olsaver denied the motion, stating that it doesn't rise to provocation for voluntary manslaughter.

 

[Megnut]

I caught the tail end of that and wondered what was going on:

Live updates: Closing arguments in Dale Warner murder trial; jury begins deliberations

Dale Warner, 58, is accused of killing his wife, Dee Warner, 52, in Lenawee County in 2021. Follow along here for live updates from the courtroom.

www.wtol.com

9:55 p.m.​

The defense requests voluntary manslaughter be added to the jury instructions, arguing that Dee's intention to tell Dale she wanted a divorce "could be provocation for a heat of passion moment."

Judge Michael Olsaver said there is no or little evidence of what Dee did or said on April 24, 2021, but that there is evidence that she intended to tell Dale she wanted a divorce and wanted to sell the trucking business.

Olsaver Dale acknowledged that an argument happened based on his statements. Olsaver said Dale told Det. Kevin Greca that it wasn't the worst argument they've ever had but told Gregg Hardy that it was a hell of a fight.
Olsaver denied the motion, stating that it doesn't rise to provocation for voluntary manslaughter.

Isn't it a little late to ask for that? The morning of closing arguments?

If DakeW wanted to plead guilty to a lesser charge, he had plenty of time to offer that.

Asking for a divorce does not grant a license to kill.

Take your lumps, DaleW. They're coming.

LWOP fits the crime.

JMO

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

I caught the tail end of that and wondered what was going on:

Live updates: Closing arguments in Dale Warner murder trial; jury begins deliberations

Dale Warner, 58, is accused of killing his wife, Dee Warner, 52, in Lenawee County in 2021. Follow along here for live updates from the courtroom.

www.wtol.com

9:55 p.m.​

The defense requests voluntary manslaughter be added to the jury instructions, arguing that Dee's intention to tell Dale she wanted a divorce "could be provocation for a heat of passion moment."

Judge Michael Olsaver said there is no or little evidence of what Dee did or said on April 24, 2021, but that there is evidence that she intended to tell Dale she wanted a divorce and wanted to sell the trucking business.

Olsaver Dale acknowledged that an argument happened based on his statements. Olsaver said Dale told Det. Kevin Greca that it wasn't the worst argument they've ever had but told Gregg Hardy that it was a hell of a fight.
Olsaver denied the motion, stating that it doesn't rise to provocation for voluntary manslaughter.

Sorry, and IANAL. But sure seems the judge got this one right.

And help me here too, as I am sometimes sort of thick….. did I just read that defense said something about the decedent’s ‘intention’ to tell the accused of a desired divorce?

Intention? Intentions are not actions. And seems the judge cited there was no evidence of such. SMH. MOO

 

[Megnut]

Sorry, and IANAL. But sure seems the judge got this one right.

And help me here too, as I am sometimes sort of thick….. did I just read that defense said something about the decedent’s ‘intention’ to tell the accused of a desired divorce?

Intention? Intentions are not actions. And seems the judge cited there was no evidence of such. SMH. MOO

Good catch.

 

[joe jones]

when defense was asking for voluntary manslaughter they were admitting there argument would be that it was a crime of passion, or provocation, so they were admitting he did it, this was outside presence of jury so we won't know whether this is what they will argue before the jury

 

[Megnut]

when defense was asking for voluntary manslaughter they were admitting there argument would be that it was a crime of passion, or provocation, so they were admitting he did it, this was outside presence of jury so we won't know whether this is what they will argue before the jury

I think, without that charge, they are rewriting their closing right this second.

They will probably highlight how many times she took off for a day or two. Because they've got less than nothing to work with.

DaleW would have been wise to beg early for a plea agreement. Life with parole maybe. Or just plead guilty as charged.

What a waste of everyone's time.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

This night be the least impassioned closing argument over ever listened to but it's very effective IMO. No drama, just a minute by minute walk-through of the evidence.

DaleW's own cameras convict him.

JMO

 

[Vaderman]

when defense was asking for voluntary manslaughter they were admitting there argument would be that it was a crime of passion, or provocation, so they were admitting he did it, this was outside presence of jury so we won't know whether this is what they will argue before the jury

Are they allowed to make that argument in the closing since the judge denied their motion?

 

[Vaderman]

This night be the least impassioned closing argument over ever listened to but it's very effective IMO. No drama, just a minute by minute walk-through of the evidence.

DaleW's own cameras convict him.

JMO

Agreed. I do enjoy her play-by-play as the video is shown. "Where's he going? There he is".

Doesn't need to be flashy, though. It seemed pretty clear he was the guy before they even found her body.

Edited for grammar/spelling.

 

[joe jones]

Are they allowed to make that argument in the closing since the judge denied their motion?

he denied the motion to include voluntary manslaughter as a charge, they can argue any defense they wish to

 

[Megnut]

Whoa. I missed this during the trial... State played the portion of DaleW's interview where he described rubbing Dee's shoulders, played without sound.

His hands are in front of him, forming a circle.

As one would do when choking a person.

Powerful.

Chilling.

NOTHING the Defense cam say can erase that image.

JMO

 

[Vaderman]

Did the feed cut out?