GUILTY MI - Ramsay Scrivo, 32, found dismembered, St Clair County, 27 Jan 2014 - #1

[bbbd4u]

Just getting home from work. Earlier I was viewing the area with google earth. I can match the background of one picture to a park and drive across the street from the BP station on Fred Moore Hwy. I'll attach two pics, one from a news story, the other from google earth street view. Notice the park and drive and red barn in the background of the both pics. IMO

Also in a news story the reporter mentioned the last bag was found on the westbound entrance ramp of I-94, donno where that leads.

Pretty bold to visit the BP station, click to enlarge.

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I have no idea how to attach a photo but I very much agree with your opinion. You can even see how the pine tree lines up with the POI vehicle and the image from Google Earth. My next thing to note the vehicle is traveling East on the camera wouldnt there are two driveways going into the gas station and something to make a note of I am not sure if the vehicle was caught on camera before the person went inside or after but the vehicle appears to be heading East IMO I believe she stopped at the first gas station after she got off the interstate. Then headed East to Allington Road and then threw out some of the bags containing the body but either she knew someone had seen her or it may have taken her a while to get what bags out she did at the time and just wanted to get out of there. If the other bag was found on the entrance ramp to westbound 1-94 IMO that was the last thing she had left to get out of her vehicle so she did it while getting back onto the interstate. On the image of the vehicle of interest it has a timestamp in the bottom left sometimes the timestamp is off by an hour depending on if they change their clock for Standard Time change but in the image it shows 2014/01/30 PM 02:35:54. My apologies that I dont know how to attach an image but this is the link that has the timestamp photo in it. http://www.freep.com/article/201401...chigan-sheriff-4th-bag-of-human-remains-found

 

[Peliman]

I have no idea how to attach a photo but I very much agree with your opinion. You can even see how the pine tree lines up with the POI vehicle and the image from Google Earth. My next thing to note the vehicle is traveling East on the camera wouldnt there are two driveways going into the gas station and something to make a note of I am not sure if the vehicle was caught on camera before the person went inside or after but the vehicle appears to be heading East IMO I believe she stopped at the first gas station after she got off the interstate. Then headed East to Allington Road and then threw out some of the bags containing the body but either she knew someone had seen her or it may have taken her a while to get what bags out she did at the time and just wanted to get out of there. If the other bag was found on the entrance ramp to westbound 1-94 IMO that was the last thing she had left to get out of her vehicle so she did it while getting back onto the interstate. On the image of the vehicle of interest it has a timestamp in the bottom left sometimes the timestamp is off by an hour depending on if they change their clock for Standard Time change but in the image it shows 2014/01/30 PM 02:35:54. My apologies that I dont know how to attach an image but this is the link that has the timestamp photo in it. http://www.freep.com/article/201401...chigan-sheriff-4th-bag-of-human-remains-found

Time Frame fits and yes there are two entrances to the BP station, one on each side. I wonder if there is another photo of the vehicle returning from Allington with a time stamp. I keep wondering if she was familiar with the area.

Attached is a photo of the west bound entrance ramp, sign says to detroit. Unless that turn was a decoy direction of travel, not sure she's thinking that clearly.

 

[bbbd4u]

Time Frame fits and yes there are two entrances to the BP station, one on each side. I wonder if there is another photo of the vehicle returning from Allington with a time stamp. I keep wondering if she was familiar with the area.

Attached is a photo of the west bound entrance ramp, sign says to detroit. Unless that turn was a decoy direction of travel, not sure she's thinking that clearly.

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The video I did see of her walking in and out of the gas station posted on this thread didnt have a timestamp on it. But I havent seen an actual video of her vehicle traveling just that photo. When she was walking out the door you could see that she was walking towards the West. I wonder if there is a photo with the timestamp showing when she walked out of the gas station. I will dig and see if I can find anything. Its interested LE asked "to talk to people who saw anything out of the ordinary in the area of Fred W. Moore Highway and Allington Road between noon and 4 p.m" but yet said their investigation began around 4 p.m. I wonder if that means they think she left right after the call came in maybe they saw the vehicle on camera heading back towards the interstate.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The woman and the car are quite recognizable and there should be obvious blood stains inside of the car and possibly outside. She had some pieces in trash bags and others were not. It had to be a messy situation and she didn't try to hide anything. Someone is going to figure this out quickly and turn her in.

 

[zwiebel]

Interesting that CNN say they learned of the case via twitter. It's becoming a very powerful tool to get word out about crime and missing people.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/31/justice/michigan-body-parts/

 

[zwiebel]

I was just thinking, don't gas stations normally have a camera positioned to catch a plate number, in case people leave without paying?

Another article here, nothing new though, except that the person still hadn't been found in the early hours of Saturday.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2014/02/body_parts_found_in_st_clair_c.html

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

I started a thread elsewhere on this, but I guess this is the sensible place! Here's the St Clair Sheriff's Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/stclaircountysheriff.org?ref=ts&fref=ts

How common is it for women to dismember their victims? I think anyone who knows the POI will definitely recognise her, but she doesn't fit the "middle aged, heavy" description I saw originally!

 

[airplanelamp]

Wow! This is literalLy less than 10 miles from my home. Insanity. IMO the suspect looks mid 30s not middle aged. I am betting the Vic ends up not being a currently reported missing person but rather, her husband or SO.

 

[sophiebelle]

I was just thinking, don't gas stations normally have a camera positioned to catch a plate number, in case people leave without paying?

Another article here, nothing new though, except that the person still hadn't been found in the early hours of Saturday.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2014/02/body_parts_found_in_st_clair_c.html

I think the cameras point to the gas pumps. It looks like she drove past them and maybe didn't get gas. Only the side of car is shown. If she had gone to the pumps, maybe the plates would show? She also appears to be smiling in the pics, and appears quite relaxed IMO.

 

[Akweks]

I've had a chance to review the google map street views and I concur with Peliman that it was the BP on Fred Moore.

I thought I would wake up this morning and hear of an arrest. I hope it's coming soon.

 

[jenstar]

Im about 99.9% positive they are the same person. In his photo on FB, he's the one without the sunglasses. His drivers license photo would be a bit old, he no longer had an active license.

Oh sorry, I see whom you're talking about now. The camera was focused on the young man with sunglasses so I thought that HE was the person in the photo. Yea, i agree.

 

[jenstar]

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/24593904/police-seeking-missing-matthew-lyzen-23
another possibility? Went missing closer to the discovery date.

upon reading social media ( although considered here-say)for ML it's not him. His family confirmed it. jmo

 

[missingm]

On a side note -You'd think with today's technology there would be better video.

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Could that be a scar on the left side of her face?

 

[Peliman]

Although LE has put these photos out, I woke this morning reminding myself this woman is just wanted for questioning. No telling if shes the woman who dumped the bags on the road yet.

 

[SieSie]

Could that be a scar on the left side of her face?

Good eye! I didn't even notice that when first looking at the pics. Here are the pics again:

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[jenstar]

(I know this sounds gruesome but hear me out)I wonder what lividity and decomposition are in effect with the state of the body. From the links and confirmations on social media (considered here-say..basically just take it worth a grain of salt until confirmed by LE) That the head of the person "appeared" to be black.
Now, since LE has confirmed it as a white male..I wonder now how long the UID had been deceased? Or if he'd been face down when he died, causing his face to turn purply-black? (Accidental OD/Alcohol poisoning?)
Did they just wait until there was absolutely no doubt that they had to "get rid of" the body, being unsure what to do?
To me it sounds like a really "botched job" as far as killing goes or and accident. And someone panicked while trying to dispose of the evidence.
(Did they really think that Hwy workers or Prisoners would just pick up the garbage, no matter how putrid it would get?) Jeeze Louise! This is just so weird.
This is just all my speculation, and opinion of course.

 

[jenstar]

Could that be a scar on the left side of her face?

I don't know her..or what it's from..but that looks like a huge scar. I wonder if it were from forceps? Those were used up until the late 80's I believe. JMO

 

[SieSie]

(I know this sounds gruesome but hear me out)I wonder what lividity and decomposition are in effect with the state of the body. From the links and confirmations on social media (considered here-say..basically just take it worth a grain of salt until confirmed by LE) That the head of the person "appeared" to be black.
Now, since LE has confirmed it as a white male..I wonder now how long the UID had been deceased? Or if he'd been face down when he died, causing his face to turn purply-black? (Accidental OD/Alcohol poisoning?)
Did they just wait until there was absolutely no doubt that they had to "get rid of" the body, being unsure what to do?
To me it sounds like a really "botched job" as far as killing goes or and accident. And someone panicked while trying to dispose of the evidence.
(Did they really think that Hwy workers or Prisoners would just pick up the garbage, no matter how putrid it would get?) Jeeze Louise! This is just so weird.
This is just all my speculation, and opinion of course.

BBM... Thanks for saying that about the condition of the body. I know it's hard to talk about, but it IS important. I had also read the social media (considered rumor) and heard that it was a black male head that was seen. When it was confirmed by MSM and LE that it was a white male, and then I read about the "charred paperwork" in the other bag found, my husband mentioned that maybe they (perp) tried to burn the body first and the body (or head) was charred, thus making it appear at first glance to the horrified person opening the bag, that it was a black male. ??

Hoping and praying they find this woman of interest soon.

 

[jenstar]

When it was confirmed by MSM and LE that it was a white male, and then I read about the "charred paperwork" in the other bag found, my husband mentioned that maybe they (perp) tried to burn the body first and the body (or head) was charred, thus making it appear at first glance to the horrified person opening the bag, that it was a black male. ??

Hoping and praying they find this woman of interest soon.

RSBM
You're husband is a quick witted one. Maybe I need more coffee. Yea, that's also a possibility, charring would make it look that way even for a quick glance.
I'm praying that they find this POI soon too.
Another thing:
It's what LE Hasn't said that intrigues me. They're not actively hunting down this man's ID as hard as they are the POI.
Does this mean that they have a very good Idea who the victim is?
If so, I look for this case to be closed soon.
Prayers for all the families subjected to this horrible fate.

 

[SieSie]

RSBM
You're husband is a quick witted one. Maybe I need more coffee. Yea, that's also a possibility, charring would make it look that way even for a quick glance.
I'm praying that they find this POI soon too.
Another thing:
It's what LE Hasn't said that intrigues me. They're not actively hunting down this man's ID as hard as they are the POI.
Does this mean that they have a very good Idea who the victim is?
If so, I look for this case to be closed soon.
Prayers for all the families subjected to this horrible fate.

I can't really glean anything from what LE is or isn't saying, we don't usually have this kind of crime here, and I don't know how much LE would say at this point. I think it's great that they have video/photo surveillance of the woman suspected of dumping bags and hope that it won't be long until she is found. If she's the one who really did this, she's obviously not too bright and should be caught soon.

As far as identifying the victim, I don't think they know who it is (based on the few MSM comments), other than a white male. IIRC, they said they're looking to other counties (Macomb, Oakland...) to see about their missing males. I think it all really depends on the condition of the remains (sorry) if they would be easily identifiable or not. So far, there's been NO COMMENT about the condition of the body/body parts, not even an estimated age... ugh.