Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 16

[raisincharlie]

Howdy,

I'll keep trying. Maybe I post too fast. I'll try slowing down. I sure hope my computer isn't faulty. Some posts work fine, others don't.

--Jake

Sorry I can't help you as I really have no idea what is going on there. I don't think it would be your computer though or it would likely be more consistent, so I don't think you should worry too much about that.

 

[happy2bn10ec]

Howdy,

So far as I know, the Youngs have not released any information about MM. Do you have other information this is not true?

I think it was RPD who originally released information about MM. I reckon he figured she was an okey dokey subject for a message board. He described in some detail his opinion of how Jason and MM began an affair. Maybe Gojo figured the same. Who knows?

I think MM had nothing to do with Michelle's murder. I believe I will not discuss her further. You do as you wish.

--Jake

I don't think shuze meant the Youngs - I think she meant you getting on here and talking about all these personal matters about the family. What's the difference in that and posting pics?

And I was thinking it was the gojo character that first posted about MM's, news, but I could be very wrong - I don't keep notes.

And sorry to be so blunt here, but I think if you were sincerely worried about being a good friend to the Young family, you wouldn't be here.

JMO

 

[nanandjim]

...I think MM had nothing to do with Michelle's murder...

I wonder if the police feel the same way.

 

[jake]

I don't think shuze meant the Youngs - I think she meant you getting on here and talking about all these personal matters about the family. What's the difference in that and posting pics?

And I was thinking it was the gojo character that first posted about MM's, news, but I could be very wrong - I don't keep notes.

And sorry to be so blunt here, but I think if you were sincerely worried about being a good friend to the Young family, you wouldn't be here.

JMO

Howdy,

If you can be blunt, I will try it, too. You don't know what you're talking about. Am I poofed yet? Okay. Maybe I will someday remind you of this post.

--Jake

 

[happy2bn10ec]

Howdy, Tennessee,

Actually, I proposed that very thing, or even arranging an email of photos. But the Young family vetoed the idea. They feel that would be a little too personal.

--Jake

I would bet the rent that the Youngs don't have any idea you post about them all over the internet...sometimes, I wonder if you even know them at all.

Or maybe I should say, I wonder if THEY know YOU at all.

 

[Tia]

I would bet the rent that the Youngs don't have any idea you post about them all over the internet...sometimes, I wonder if you even know them at all.

Or maybe I should say, I wonder if THEY know YOU at all.

ITA!! I have said it all along. I think he may have met them, MAYBE once or twice and he got to go into the house because of his wife, she had some connection if she was taking photos.

 

[happy2bn10ec]

Howdy,

If you can be blunt, I will try it, too. You don't know what you're talking about. Am I poofed yet? Okay. Maybe I will someday remind you of this post.

--Jake

You are right - I don't know what I am talking about because I do not know these people.

But I would like to think that if I ever found myself in a similar situation involving one of my children, that I could count on my friends NOT to do what you have been doing.

Why would you get poofed for telling me I don't know what I am talking about?

 

[happy2bn10ec]

Howdy,

If you can be blunt, I will try it, too. You don't know what you're talking about. Am I poofed yet? Okay. Maybe I will someday remind you of this post.

--Jake

And I DO hope one day you can come here and remind us all of all the posts and facts we had wrong about JY. Like for starters, I hope you can come and gloat at us when SOMEONE ELSE is convicted for killing Michelle. I would sincerely love for it to be anyone else who smashed her skull and killed their baby.

 

[Anuniaq]

Hi,

I've been lurking for quite a while (here and at the other board). I really like the tone of this board and how the posters here seem to be really interested in knowing, or trying to figure out what might have happened.

I find it interesting that today with the CTV board shut down, this one is starting to sound a little like that one. Please don't take this as a critism, just an observation. It seems if that energy can't be expelled over there it is brought here. I'm not sure what purpose he thinks it serves, but it seems to be a goal... I just don't get it :waitasec:

 

[raisincharlie]

You are right - I don't know what I am talking about because I do not know these people.

But I would like to think that if I ever found myself in a similar situation involving one of my children, that I could count on my friends NOT to do what you have been doing.

Why would you get poofed for telling me I don't know what I am talking about?

Lets not leave this all on Jake, there is a whole list of characters who have done exactly the same thing.

JTF - the screaming whinning fits about the press (someone remind me again how much this case has been in the news), the accusations of Meredith even the theft of jewelry by LF - you name it, JTF made the accusation as long as Jason wasn't included. Problem is the stories changed every time new information came out.

Then lets see - remember the oh so honorable gojo who declared he would not answer posts unless you followed his rules - and then how many gojos were there 3, 4, heck I lost count. And then his vile excuses for why he decided to relay the fact that MM was pregnant - that was really the low point for gojo and mates.

Then there is Johngo - lots of changing stories and accusations there as well with nothing to back it up - no search warrants naming possible other suspects, nothing.

Then there is DKJ who claims he knows nothing but yet expects you to believe every word he says. Heck he even has conversations with magistrates - he's gotta know what is happening - right?

So lets not blame Jake for all the crazy stuff - he is not alone.

 

[raisincharlie]

Hi,

I've been lurking for quite a while (here and at the other board). I really like the tone of this board and how the posters here seem to be really interested in knowing, or trying to figure out what might have happened.

I find it interesting that today with the CTV board shut down, this one is starting to sound a little like that one. Please don't take this as a critism, just an observation. It seems if that energy can't be expelled over there it is brought here. I'm not sure what purpose he thinks it serves, but it seems to be a goal... I just don't get it :waitasec:

No argument from this corner and by the way welcome.

 

[scandi]

Good Morning,

Hi Happy, Well, I just woke up after one cup of coffee and reading your posts! I think Jake has just as much right to be here as anyone on this board. Just because he knows the Young family and he is hoping JY didn't commit this horrible crime is no reason to exclude him.

What he posts is undoubtedly weighed in his mind as to whether it is appropriate to give out or not. Let him be the judge of that.

One of the great things about this board is we respect all the different viewpoints of posters. As a result I think our viewpoints come from a more well rounded perspective that is more condusive in being successful at our Sleuthing results.

An above all I think everyone posts by the Golden Rule, or tries to. If you come onto someone with an attitude you're probably going to get one back - or conversly, if you treat them with the same respect you expect, they will treat you in kind. I see that all the time on these boards. ;}
Scandi

 

[scandi]

As to the MBr closet/s, I thought I read here yesterday there were 2 closets on that wall. In the info I posted yesterday which I entitled 'Virtual Tour' so we could go back to reference it, this is all it says about that wall: "One wall abutts the closet wall of the MBR."

It makes sense to me that if that space between the MBr and the guest bedroom has one walk-in closet they well could have put in two closets for his and her. There is no egress given for a door to go back into that guest room, so I can see why it could well have 2 closets. Plenty of room. I am about to try and call Mrs Buffaloe, see if I can get her #.

I'll report back. Scandi

 

[happy2bn10ec]

Good Morning,

Hi Happy, Well, I just woke up after one cup of coffee and reading your posts! I think Jake has just as much right to be here as anyone on this board. Just because he knows the Young family and he is hoping JY didn't commit this horrible crime is no reason to exclude him.

What he posts is undoubtedly weighed in his mind as to whether it is appropriate to give out or not. Let him be the judge of that.

One of the great things about this board is we respect all the different viewpoints of posters. As a result I think our viewpoints come from a more well rounded perspective that is more condusive in being successful at our Sleuthing results.

An above all I think everyone posts by the Golden Rule, or tries to. If you come onto someone with an attitude you're probably going to get one back - or conversly, if you treat them with the same respect you expect, they will treat you in kind. I see that all the time on these boards. ;}
Scandi

Sorry for giving you such a rude jolt with your morning coffee - but I didn't say that I don't think Jake has a right to post here - I said that I certainly hope that if I should ever find myself in situation like the Youngs, that my "friends" wouldn't get on public message boards and post personal family information that is not helping his cause, at least not in my eyes. I will just say I don't think he is doing the Youngs any favors.

Since it is a little hard for me to have any respect for someone like that, I may have a little trouble trying to follow the Golden Rule where he is concerned. I should just go back to doing what I have always done where those kinds of posts are concerned, and scroll on by.

I think many people are just so starved for any info on this case, they are willing to be "led on" and go along with "insiders" in hopes of getting any little tidbit that MIGHT be true.

 

[happy2bn10ec]

Lets not leave this all on Jake, there is a whole list of characters who have done exactly the same thing.

JTF - the screaming whinning fits about the press (someone remind me again how much this case has been in the news), the accusations of Meredith even the theft of jewelry by LF - you name it, JTF made the accusation as long as Jason wasn't included. Problem is the stories changed every time new information came out.

Then lets see - remember the oh so honorable gojo who declared he would not answer posts unless you followed his rules - and then how many gojos were there 3, 4, heck I lost count. And then his vile excuses for why he decided to relay the fact that MM was pregnant - that was really the low point for gojo and mates.

Then there is Johngo - lots of changing stories and accusations there as well with nothing to back it up - no search warrants naming possible other suspects, nothing.

Then there is DJK who claims he knows nothing but yet expects you to believe every word he says. Heck he even has conversations with magistrates - he's gotta know what is happening - right?

So lets not blame Jake for all the crazy stuff - he is not alone.

There may be a whole list of characters, but I think they are played by very few actual different people. But that's jmo and I could be totally wrong about that, too. Most of them just seem to have very similar personalities and characteristics.

Dang, something just dawned on me - how bad it must be to be surrounded by friends and family, such as this cast of characters, if they are indeed different people...

 

[Bee Charmer]

As to the MBr closet/s, I thought I read here yesterday there were 2 closets on that wall. In the info I posted yesterday which I entitled 'Virtual Tour' so we could go back to reference it, this is all it says about that wall: "One wall abutts the closet wall of the MBR."

It makes sense to me that if that space between the MBr and the guest bedroom has one walk-in closet they well could have put in two closets for his and her. There is no egress given for a door to go back into that guest room, so I can see why it could well have 2 closets. Plenty of room. I am about to try and call Mrs Buffaloe, see if I can get her #.

I'll report back. Scandi

Good luck Scandi, use your charm on her...lol

 

[raisincharlie]

Happy2bn10ec - please check your pms !

 

[scandi]

Good luck Scandi, use your charm on her...lol

Quick UPDATE:

No listing for Lucy B - wife
One son - does not take incoming calls!
Second son - n/a

Found a Hope Buffaloe on a __ Lake Rd - n/a

Now am going to find name of Realtor that has 5505 Pinleaf listed. Built by Buffaloe as well, and she has the PDF floorplan of that house on line. I want to see where she got that, or if she were to list the Birchleaf house, where would she go to get a floorplan for it. County records don't go back 15 years - only 2 I think. A poster called the Planning Dept.

Will be back.

 

[scandi]

. . .Snipped . . .I think many people are just so starved for any info on this case, they are willing to be "led on" and go along with "insiders" in hopes of getting any little tidbit that MIGHT be true.

Hi Happy2bn10ec, I agree we are starved. And as far as info we get from those insiders who post, I think it is like everything. It will probably shake out that some of what we learn from them is right on and the rest isn't.

Scandi

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

And I DO hope one day you can come here and remind us all of all the posts and facts we had wrong about JY. Like for starters, I hope you can come and gloat at us when SOMEONE ELSE is convicted for killing Michelle. I would sincerely love for it to be anyone else who smashed her skull and killed their baby.

I totally agree!
I hope it wasn't Jason. I really do....
At this point, it is my opinion that he was involved, but certainly, there's much we don't know. We know less than what we don't know, LOL. (follow that?!)
So, if one wants to come back and gloat or have us eat crow later - because LE solved the case and the monster who beat her to death is convicted - then that's fine. I'd welcome that!

Yet, isn't it odd that some seem to play games about all this - insincere, playing dumb and sarcastic. There's something to be said for being a staunch supporter of friends and family. It is, however, quite telling to me when one forgets what this crime is all about. The big picture is that a pregnant lady was beaten to death, which also killed her innocent baby growing inside her. Then there are family members on both sides of the family that are grieving, in different ways and at different depths.

Seriously IMO and JMO, etc. etc. etc.