Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 16

[Whimsigal]

i understand that that the youngs bought the house directly from the owner. i don't know if that meant that the youngs didn't have a broker representing them or just the seller didn't list the house with a broker.

i wonder whether the previous owner was eager to sell the house and
carried the loan for the youngs.

wasn't it said that michelle's co-workers felt like michelle and jay were living beyond their means?

imo

Either scenario is possible honestly. We sold our last home FSBO and were working with a couple who had an agent. It was handled like any other real estate transaction I've ever been involved in. I know that sometimes in a FSBO the owner will provide "owner financing" but that is not the norm in my area of NC. It happens to be sure, just not as often as getting a good old mortgage directly from a bank/lender.

If they were living like so many newly married couples, paycheck to paycheck, then a mortgage payment on $389k could be painful.

 

[Whimsigal]

When he finally decides to "try" to sell the house, he will most likely be writing a check at closing. The 6% Real Estate fee will eat up the very small amount of equity he has. There are quite a few nice homes on the market in that subdivision. Who in their right mind would want the house where a beautiful young mother was brutally murdered in the master bedroom ? I know I would avoid that house like the plague.

I have to agree with you there. That house would certainly be on my immediate NO list. What I'm wondering is, do the agents have to tell you if a violent crime occurred there? We get a lot of northern transplants down here and, with as little as this case is in the news, they wouldn't be privvy to the horror that took place in that home. If they didn't know about it, didn't know to ask about it, would the realtor volunteer it?

Not pertinent to the case, I know, but it has got me curious.

 

[strach304]

Whimsical, each state may vary on that but in the LP case it was discussed so if I remember correctly they don't have to volunteer that info but if asked then they have to.

BF, I agree. No way would I want to live there. Look at the Laci Peterson case though. She too must have been killed in the home but with all the publicity it did sell at a considerable increase. As if that wasn't bad enough there were a lot of interested buyers that put in bids.

 

[scandi]

Thanks for all the backup guys! And Sami, being with her was worth any $$ loss I incured. And now she is Sweet 16 Time goes by too fast, except in this case!!!

It's good to see you Whimsigal, I don't think they are obligated legally to tell you if a murder took place there or even if someone just died there. In Oregon if it was a drug house that has been chemically cleaned, then yes it must be discloosed, and is an addendum to the EMA.

I don't believe a cleaning crew for a crime scene would leave the house unsafe for habitation. I know you brought that up Saint. Never answered you! ;}

 

[happy2bn10ec]

Hey RC, check your pm's, please.

 

[raisincharlie]

Hey RC, check your pm's, please.

Done - and thank you very much !

 

[Barney Fife]

Jake seems to be very interested in my insurance claim report. The bozo must not know the general public can get an endless list of reports from 100's of data bases (for a small fee of course).

What other info about Jason do you want me to share with you Jake ? I already paid my fee and have a lot more from these public web sites. This might come in handy for you since it is quite obvious you do not know the "real" Jason Young (he is no longer the 18 year old mountain lad you were so proud of)

 

[jake]

Jake seems to be very interested in my insurance claim report. The bozo must not know the general public can get an endless list of reports from 100's of data bases (for a small fee of course).

What other info about Jason do you want me to share with you Jake ? I already paid my fee and have a lot more from these public web sites. This might come in handy for you since it is quite obvious you do not know the "real" Jason Young (he is no longer the 18 year old mountain lad you were so proud of)

I reckon I'm such a bozo I don't know anything about those 100's of data bases. But I can afford a small fee to access one of them. Would you mind giving me the link to the one you used for the insurance information?

Thanks.

--Jake

 

[Barney Fife]

I reckon I'm such a bozo I don't know anything about those 100's of data bases. But I can afford a small fee to access one of them. Would you mind giving me the link to the one you used for the insurance information?

Thanks.

--Jake

Lets see, you are now asking me directly for my information ? Not so fast jake. There may be a few things I want from you in exchange. Only fair , right ?

 

[raisincharlie]

Jake seems to be very interested in my insurance claim report. The bozo must not know the general public can get an endless list of reports from 100's of data bases (for a small fee of course).

What other info about Jason do you want me to share with you Jake ? I already paid my fee and have a lot more from these public web sites. This might come in handy for you since it is quite obvious you do not know the "real" Jason Young (he is no longer the 18 year old mountain lad you were so proud of)

That is one of the most amazing things about computers - an unlimited ability to explore. Thanks for the info Barney - appreciate it.

 

[raisincharlie]

Blink :crazy:

 

[Bellgardin]

I have to agree with you there. That house would certainly be on my immediate NO list. What I'm wondering is, do the agents have to tell you if a violent crime occurred there?

All states are different, but many states have the requirement that any death other than a death of natural causes must be disclosed. I was actually looking at the NC statutes to see if I could find anything (I couldn't), but I came across the statutes pertaining to Grand Jury proceedings and found something I thought was interesting. A lot of people speculate each time the grand jury meets that someone can only be arrested on certain days because the grand jury is meeting. The statutes say that the defendant must be notified of the indictment unless they are represented by counsel (I guess they get it then). This notice must advise the defendant of the time limits of discovery and include a copy of the indictment. However, it also says that the judge may order it sealed and can defer the giving of notice for a reasonable time. According to the statute, the bill of indictment can be kept secret until the defendant is arrested. I just thought this was interesting because it shows to me that anyone (JY) arrested for this crime does not have to be arrested immediately after the grand jury hands down the bill.

There is also a very interesting section on search warrants and nontestimonial orders. If you want to read it all yourself, the information is in chapter 15A-Criminal Procedure Act of the NC General Statutes.

 

[jake]

Lets see, you are now asking me directly for my information ? Not so fast jake. There may be a few things I want from you in exchange. Only fair , right ?

Sounds unfair to me. Since you know everything, I doubt I can tell you anything. But fire away.

--Jake

 

[Bellgardin]

A while back there was some criticism of the police dept involved in this case for not cleaning up blood at the crime scene. I just happened to stumble across this article http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/521190.html

and I thought this quote in particular was interesting - "Many people mistakenly think police officers are responsible for cleaning scenes. They're not, although some officers will recommend a list of cleaning companies, which number at least 10 in Charlotte." However, it may be difficult for police to provide a list of companies if no one will talk to them.

 

[jake]

A while back there was some criticism of the police dept involved in this case for not cleaning up blood at the crime scene. I just happened to stumble across this article http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/521190.html

and I thought this quote in particular was interesting - "Many people mistakenly think police officers are responsible for cleaning scenes. They're not, although some officers will recommend a list of cleaning companies, which number at least 10 in Charlotte." However, it may be difficult for police to provide a list of companies if no one will talk to them.

Jason's family did not expect nor want police officers to clean the house. They had no trouble finding a cleaning company.

--Jake

 

[raisincharlie]

Thanks Bellgardin - very interesting stuff there. Appreciate that very much, in particular the codes about the NTO- very informative.

Have a good day

 

[Barney Fife]

Sounds unfair to me. Since you know everything, I doubt I can tell you anything. But fire away.

--Jake

Come to think of it, you have an excellent point.

Thanks for offering though.

 

[Bellgardin]

Jason's family did not expect nor want police officers to clean the house. They had no trouble finding a cleaning company.

That's interesting. Another poster on a couple of different boards implied that it was expected. Or perhaps it was just that poster who is a friend of the family that expected it.

 

[Barney Fife]

Jason's family did not expect nor want police officers to clean the house. They had no trouble finding a cleaning company.

--Jake

and....obviously price was not a factor. That goodness he remembered to pay his HO insurance premium before the murder.

 

[Bellgardin]

Thanks Bellgardin - very interesting stuff there. Appreciate that very much, in particular the codes about the NTO- very informative.

Have a good day

No problem! I research statutes a lot for my work and there is a lot of great information out there. It can really shed light on things.

You have a good day too!!!