Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 17

[Nomimi]

You make extremely good points! Wonder if the search and wait for the previous owners is what is delaying an arrest.

BTW, LOVE YOUR NIC!

Why, thank you very much! I heard there was a blonde that lived there at one time. I think it will take a lot of time to go through all that hair and whatever else in that drain and do all that testing. Isn't that what the "special machine" was brought in for? I wonder if the whole shower thing is even true. If Jason is the killer, and he took a shower there, he is really dumb. I'm not so sure how far he planned this out though. I think he had been thinking about it for awhile, so he knew some things to do and not do. But, I just think he snapped on that particular evening.

 

[Bee Charmer]

What a beautiful Saturday am it is at CTV.
CateKelly and Alter Ego are finally BANNED !!!!!

Since you are so concerned over who is banned by Coldwater, you should read Coldwater's public warning to you on
yesterday's thread.

Also, I don't appreciate the name calling of others. Calling someone who
has a different opinion then you a moron is not appropriate, imo.

 

[Barney Fife]

Since you are so concerned over who is banned by Coldwater, you should read Coldwater's public warning to you on
yesterday's thread.

Also, I don't appreciate the name calling of others. Calling someone who
has a different opinion then you a moron is not appropriate, imo.

Don't come over here with your sarcastic barbs Regina.lampert.

These readers don't want to see your little 'warning' or 'you don't appreciate" interjections . This is about a murder, not your personal issues with me. Stay at cheesy CTV if you want to start that childish behavior. :woohoo:

 

[Bee Charmer]

Sorry Barney, I have just as much right to post here as you do. When you post something people will respond.

My concern over this case is every bit as valid as yours.

 

[Bee Charmer]

Good Morning Mr. Jake. Please accept my belated
condolences on your loss.

 

[jake]

well this narrows the list of perpetrators quite a bit now doesn't it ? We can assume that any random killer would not feel the need to take a shower before he quickly exited the premises.

I would think a person that worried about showing blood evidence in his vehicle would also want to take a shower before he left. This would leave Jason young and Meredith Fisher as the only two that would worry about their vehicles being inspected by law enforcement. All we know at this point is Meredith's car was detained only very briefly and Jason's SUV was impounded by law enforcement for two months.

I hope others don't take your ASSumptions as fact. I think a random killer covered with blood would take a shower before going out into the world....as would any other killer.

--Jake

 

[jake]

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I would think a person that worried about showing blood evidence in his vehicle would also want to take a shower before he left. This would leave Jason young and Meredith Fisher as the only two that would worry about their vehicles being inspected by law enforcement. All we know at this point is Meredith's car was detained only very briefly and Jason's SUV was impounded by law enforcement for two months.

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Why do you keep bringing up MF's name? I thought you agreed to leave her out of this. Do you really think she is involved?

--Jake

 

[nanandjim]

The blood on the shower walls isn't gonna help...The lack of foreign DNA...

Isn't it interesting that the murderer felt comfortable enough to shower in the home? Wasn't he afraid that the husband might be returning? IMO, I hate to continue posting as I think certain posters are taking all theories and information straight back to the defense attorney and suspect. IMO, it will help in their defense of the suspect if and when there comes a time that he is arrested for his wife's murder.

It is comforting to know that LE is not leaking any of their investigation. We would be discussing it here at WS and it would surely get back to the suspect.

 

[Barney Fife]

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Why do you keep bringing up MF's name? I thought you agreed to leave her out of this. Do you really think she is involved?

--Jake

Not so fast Jake. You need to read my post before responding, as you seem to be missing the point. MF's car was in the driveway. Obviously LE would search it...and they did for 1 day. The "other" vehicle was searched and held for 2 months. Since the murder is NOT RANDOM, that only leaves MF ,since she obviously was there and Mr Young. In case you are still wondering now, I think Jason murdered MF-Y.

 

[Barney Fife]

I hope others don't take your ASSumptions as fact. I think a random killer covered with blood would take a shower before going out into the world....as would any other killer.

--Jake

A random killer ? Waltz in and bludgeon a pregnant Mother to death and then slip in the shower and borrow the husband's cloths before slipping back into the dark woods ?

Lets be logical Jake. If your assertion of blood in the shower is true, that eliminates a 'random killer" and is probably one of the key reasons LE said NOT RANDOM from day one. We are now left with a killer that knew MF-Y and would feel comfortable taking a shower and changing cloths before heading back to their Vehicle.
Besides JY, who could that "person" possibly be ?

 

[jake]

Not so fast Jake. You need to read my post before responding, as you seem to be missing the point. MF's car was in the driveway. Obviously LE would search it...and they did for 1 day. The "other" vehicle was searched and held for 2 months. Since the murder is NOT RANDOM, that only leaves MF ,since she obviously was there and Mr Young. In case you are still wondering now, I think Jason murdered MF-Y.

Thanks, Barney. I hope you can help me about MF-F's car. I can't find any reference anywhere to it's being searched. I'm not disputing the one-day search of MF-F's car, but don't know why LE would bother since Jason was the obvious killer.

I still don't understand why you keep bringing up MF-F.

--Jake

 

[jake]

A random killer ? Waltz in and bludgeon a pregnant Mother to death and then slip in the shower and borrow the husband's cloths before slipping back into the dark woods ?

Lets be logical Jake. If your assertion of blood in the shower is true, that eliminates a 'random killer" and is probably one of the key reasons LE said NOT RANDOM from day one. We are now left with a killer that knew MF-Y and would feel comfortable taking a shower and changing cloths before heading back to their Vehicle.
Besides JY, who could that "person" possibly be ?

"Logical" to me means that no killer would want to leave that scene with MF-Y's blood on him. Suppose he slid into his car and then was stopped by LE--for whatever reason. Hard to explain the blood.

And, logically, would the killer expect company at that time of night? Why not wash off the blood?

--Jake

 

[jake]

MF's car was in the driveway. Obviously LE would search it...and they did for 1 day. The "other" vehicle was searched and held for 2 months. Since the murder is NOT RANDOM, that only leaves MF ,since she obviously was there and Mr Young. In case you are still wondering now, I think Jason murdered MF-Y.

I think I understand about MF-F's car being held for only one day. She was not a suspect.

I don't understand why Jason's was held for 2 months. What was the point? If MF-F's car could be search and returned in one day, why not JY-Y's?

--Jake

 

[Barney Fife]

I think I understand about MF-F's car being held for only one day. She was not a suspect.

I don't understand why Jason's was held for 2 months. What was the point? If MF-F's car could be search and returned in one day, why not JY-Y's?

--Jake

"JY-Y" is "JLY" in case you did not know and want to continue using the 3 initials . Also, in case you also did not know, Meredith's Middle name is also "Lynn", so "MLF" is appropriate.

 

[Barney Fife]

"Logical" to me means that no killer would want to leave that scene with MF-Y's blood on him. Suppose he slid into his car and then was stopped by LE--for whatever reason. Hard to explain the blood.

And, logically, would the killer expect company at that time of night? Why not wash off the blood?

--Jake

A "random killer" making himself at home may be true. I wonder if there is evidence he made a late night snack in the kitchen before he slipped off into the darkness ? I guess not. After bludgeoning Michelle, he would have at least rifled her purse on the kitchen table for some easy cash. After all, who cares about a little petty theft after a vicious murder

 

[Bee Charmer]

I believe the possibility exists that a stranger would use the shower if covered in Michelle's blood. Perhaps they had been watching and knew JY left with suitcases and she was alone with Cassidy.

I think it's a very long shot, but it is within the realm of possibility, imo.

 

[Barney Fife]

Thanks, Barney. I hope you can help me about MF-F's car. I can't find any reference anywhere to it's being searched. I'm not disputing the one-day search of MF-F's car, but don't know why LE would bother since Jason was the obvious killer.

I still don't understand why you keep bringing up MF-F.

--Jake

Her car was not impounded by LE. There is news footage several days after the murder where her Honda is clearly shown in MF-Y's driveway. I guess they took a quick peek inside just to satisfy Tharrington-Smith ?

 

[nanandjim]

I believe the possibility exists that a stranger would use the shower if covered in Michelle's blood. Perhaps they had been watching and knew JY left with suitcases and she was alone with Cassidy.

I think it's a very long shot, but it is within the realm of possibility, imo.

Interesting...and what would be the motive for this crime? Just because...

Only Jason stood to benefit. This was not a rape, burglary or robbery. In addition, this was extreme overkill. Very, very unlikely that it was a random murderer.

 

[Barney Fife]

Interesting...and what would be the motive for this crime? Just because...

Only Jason stood to benefit. This was not a rape, burglary or robbery. In addition, this was extreme overkill. Very, very unlikely that it was a random murderer.

Exactly nanandjim. Motive is a key component to proving murder.
JY is the only one with a clear motive ( a long list I might add).

 

[Bee Charmer]

Interesting...and what would be the motive for this crime? Just because...

Only Jason stood to benefit. This was not a rape, burglary or robbery. In addition, this was extreme overkill. Very, very unlikely that it was a random murderer.

I agree that this husband did this crime. However, there is always the outside chance that we are unaware of other evidence that LE has. My opinion reflects that outside chance I could be wrong about JY.

In this day and age, with random crimes every single day just for the thrill of it, I really don't think a motive is necessary for some of the crazy people out there.