Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 17

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Still, wouldn't you think WRAL would report on the fact that a search warrant was used to take possession of a possible murder weapon? Seems strange to me.

Another thing I noticed in the search warrant: for perhaps the first time, the warrant does not mention Jason's lack of "cooperation".

--Jake

I don't know anything about the different media sources in that area (other than just the bit I've read here), but my take is that they didn't see it very newsworthy after it had already been reported by the other. I guess they didn't feel they had much to add as far as new details?

I don't know, Jake. Just a true guess on my part. I know our different media outlets sometimes carry similar stories and sometimes they don't.

 

[Barney Fife]

Still, wouldn't you think WRAL would report on the fact that a search warrant was used to take possession of a possible murder weapon? Seems strange to me.

Another thing I noticed in the search warrant: for perhaps the first time, the warrant does not mention Jason's lack of "cooperation".

--Jake

Warrant ? Who has seen the warrant ?

 

[jake]

I suspect WRAL didn't mention it because it doesn't matter.

If you are refering to the warrant for the 5108 Birchleaf residence, you might want to look at the time it was issued. I doubt they bothered at that point to worry about JY's cooperation, he was on his knees in Brevard about that time.

Praying to God that it not be true, I expect. Those who don't pray wouldn't understand that, of course. But no, I was referring to the search warrant for the hammer.

--Jake

 

[Scout]

Praying to God that it not be true, I expect. Those who don't pray wouldn't understand that, of course. But no, I was referring to the search warrant for the hammer.

--Jake

Where and when did you see the search warrant for the hammer?

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

To me, those who seek out the camera to show their grief are sick. They are begging for attention. Those who know they can't hold their emotions in check in front of a camera should avoid interviews. JMO of course.

--Jake

I guess I didn't picture your context of the Youngs in regard to seeking out the camera for interviews, etc. I'm sure during those first few days, the media was clammoring (sp?) for any type of comment or interview(s) from them. For them to give a little comment, asking for the public's help in finding the murderer, or to give an update as to how Cassidy or Jason were holding up, etc....would be acceptable. Emphasizing, they could make statements and be seen as showing compassion and care and concern...and grief...without mentioning details of the crime or Jason's alibi or actions, etc.

IMO, that was missing. Not like they have to do such things, but when the public gets wrapped up in caring about a case, they want to hear how key players are doing, etc. And I think that was the point back to the silence from this legal firm. It's just quiet compared to so many cases, and somewhat different than the firm's normal "PR" actions, maybe. (You know the saying, the best offense is a good defense, etc.) People just wonder why, as it's noticeably different.

JMO.

 

[raisincharlie]

Praying to God that it not be true, I expect. Those who don't pray wouldn't understand that, of course. But no, I was referring to the search warrant for the hammer.

--Jake

The only way you would know that is if you've seen the warrant which as of 20 April had not been returned, therefore not public knowledge. So you are either being deceitful or JY is sharing more with you than you claim. I don't suspect LE needed his cooperation to sieze the item.

I do know about praying, thank you very much. I would say he was perhaps thankful that someone finally found his murdered wife while he was well away from the scene.

Also are you saying McIntyre is sick for having expressed his views back in November ?

 

[The Saint]

Not sure about the lawyer's motivations, but I can tell you about the Youngs. They will not grieve publicly, not ever. Do not expect to see any of the Youngs on t.v. expressing their grief. It won't happen.

I know because I am the same way. I would never speak into a camera and share my grief with the world. It won't happen.

--Jake

jake,

is that because you just don't have any grief over what jay did to michelle and that little baby boy and that the world would discover that you are a bad actor like jay?

there has been NO GRIEF expressed whatsoever by that Young family publicly.
they could do it through writing, through a spokesman, lawyer, journalist or pastor.
they have declined.

i wonder how much grief they feel.

jmo

 

[Scout]

The only way you would know that is if you've seen the warrant which as of 20 April had not been returned, therefore not public knowledge. So you are either being deceitful or JY is sharing more with you than you claim. I don't suspect LE needed his cooperation to sieze the item.

I do know about praying, thank you very much. I would say he was perhaps thankful that someone finally found his murdered wife while he was well away from the scene.

Also are you saying McIntyre is sick for having expressed his views back in November ?

Maybe he thinks the Cho family is sick?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18201501/

I think their statement shows heartfelt compassion, grief and dignity. Very respectful toward the victims.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

jake,

is that because you just don't have any grief over what jay did to michelle and that little baby boy and that the world would discover that you are a bad actor like jay?

there has been NO GRIEF expressed whatsoever by that Young family publicly.
they could do it through writing, through a spokesman, lawyer, journalist or pastor.
they have declined.

i wonder how much grief they feel.

jmo

That's how I'm taking it...and I have a feeling we're not the only ones with this opinion.

 

[The Saint]

Wow! Is that a healthy family atmosphere for Cassidy to grow up in?. Her mother Michelle was murdered. What is she to be told. No grieving for her own mother. Or will they tell her she was hatched from a giant egg.?Mentally that is rather dangerous.

that's how Bobby Kennedy's kids got so screwed up (and later turned to drugs and reckless behavior that resulted in several deaths including a drug OD). Their mother, Ethel, wouldn't let them cry or grieve for their slain father when they were young.

powderkeg.

jmo

 

[raisincharlie]

Maybe he thinks the Cho family is sick?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18201501/

I think their statement shows heartfelt compassion, grief and dignity. Very respectful toward the victims.

I feel incredibly sorry for this family. They will suffer forever for this action. I agree, definitely dignified and respectful.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Maybe he thinks the Cho family is sick?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18201501/

I think their statement shows heartfelt compassion, grief and dignity. Very respectful toward the victims.

I think about Mark Lundsford...that was pure grief and raw emotion...not sick in my book.

 

[The Saint]

it may be hard for them to fake grief when they don't feel any.

or to conjure up emotions that have been swallowed or suppressed for years
(or generations) or may not even exist.

jmo

 

[The Saint]

Maybe he thinks the Cho family is sick?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18201501/

I think their statement shows heartfelt compassion, grief and dignity. Very respectful toward the victims.

What a beautiful, eloquent, powerful and heartbreaking press release.
It makes you feel the pain that the killer's family is enduring as well as the pain of the victims and their families.

jmo

 

[The Saint]

The only way you would know that is if you've seen the warrant which as of 20 April had not been returned, therefore not public knowledge. So you are either being deceitful or JY is sharing more with you than you claim. I don't suspect LE needed his cooperation to sieze the item.

I do know about praying, thank you very much. I would say he was perhaps thankful that someone finally found his murdered wife while he was well away from the scene.

Also are you saying McIntyre is sick for having expressed his views back in November ?

sick that he used that dumb phrase, "fell plumb to his knees."

imo

 

[The Saint]

Still, wouldn't you think WRAL would report on the fact that a search warrant was used to take possession of a possible murder weapon? Seems strange to me.

Another thing I noticed in the search warrant: for perhaps the first time, the warrant does not mention Jason's lack of "cooperation".

--Jake

that reporter is probably still mad at you at you, jake.
i would be.

cooperation? yeah. the NEIGHBOR cooperated by handing it over.
jason hasn't ever reached that point .

prideful?
no ,guilty. cowardly.

jmo

 

[The Saint]

jake,

are you related to the pastor who saw scratches on jay's face?

did that even happen?

imo

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I feel incredibly sorry for this family. They will suffer forever for this action. I agree, definitely dignified and respectful.

Isn't that the truth, IMO. It sounds like they're in hiding...and after the first day, we were talking at work about how they'll probably get death threats, harassment and lose their business. All on the actions of their son.

It's like I said in a post many days ago...I've had reason to deal with familes on both sides of crime, and I've got a spot in my heart for the innocent family members that get wrapped up in the events that were not in their knowledge or control. (We even had a "first" at work this year - a secretary's brother completed a murder-suicide one weekend. Because in LE we are very tight and support "our family," we always have a good showing of support at funerals for employees' family members, if possible. Commissioned officers normally go in uniform - as one of our Lieutenants said before we went to support our secretary, "This is the first time I've gone to a funeral of a murderer." It was discussed the option that our employees wouldn't go in uniform, but it was decided that it would hurt the secretary's feelings since she knows we always go in uniform.) I also wondered how difficult it would be for that employee to return to work in a LE environment when everyone knows what her family member did; but, it's going well. Adults realize she's not responsible for what her brother did that weekend.

Long-winded, and I'm sorry...but that's how I feel about it. The Youngs shouldn't be dogged about what Jason did, IF he did it, and IF they aren't covering for him. If they do know he did it, then I don't respect them for covering. Michelle, the unborn boy, and Michelle's family deserve the murderer to get his true justice. Just my personal opinion, MOOOOOO.

 

[caffeinatd]

Maybe he thinks the Cho family is sick?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18201501/

I think their statement shows heartfelt compassion, grief and dignity. Very respectful toward the victims.

The statement shows true compassion and sorrow for the victims and the community.
What caught my eye in the article was Wade Smith saying they would not answer any questions. While I understand this, I realize he is definitely guilty, and wonder if this is the firms stance when they represent the guilty as opposed to the Duke LAX, that they were out in the media with...if that is the case, very telling in Jasons guilt as perceived by his counsel...jmoo

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Well, I knew that last post was long-winded...it appears I've killed the MY thread for the evening :slap:

I'm done for the evening, my Tylenol PM is kickin' in...and RC must be cheering on a certain someone in another language:woohoo:

You all have a nice evening!
DD