Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 17

[Scout]

Oh, man, nothing's easy for me!

Even the job thing is hard for me. You're saying he has no job, yet others of us have heard that he does. Hard to understand.

The "blood money" is hard, too. Why does anyone buy insurance? To provide for the survivor and Cassie. Poor Cassie is going to be burdened by "blood money"? Poor Cassie.

It's even hard for me to hold my breath.

--Jake

What sort of job does Jason have, Jake?

 

[Nomimi]

Naw, I reckon I just grew up with that phrase and have seen no reason to quit. But if it annoys people, I will quit.

I do think it is important in an age of [SIZE=-1]homogenization , process in which a mixture is made uniform throughout. Generally this procedure involves reducing the size of the particles.[/SIZE]

for people to keep their linguistic quirks. Do you have any?

--Jake

Speaking in riddles again??? Hey, I've always wanted to ask you.... If you are so certain that Jason is innocent, why are you on line day in and day out trying so hard to convince everyone that he is? You almost seem paranoid about it. Did you help commit the murder in some way? Were you an accessory after the fact? I don't get it.

 

[Nomimi]

What sort of job does Jason have, Jake?

An imaginary one.

 

[jake]

Can you think of ANY reason why an innocent spouse would not work with police or be willing to be deposed by an insurance company??????

I've never asked him, but my GUESS is he is simply following his lawyer's advice. The insurance company? My GUESS is, it will never happen.

--Jake

 

[Bellgardin]

Can you think of ANY reason why an innocent spouse would not work with police or be willing to be deposed by an insurance company??????

Since I used to pay life insurance claims, I can tell you that I don't think there is one. When I think back (I don't do that job anymore) I can only think of one case similar to this where the person the police suspected was not eventually charged. That women had 2 husbands that were both shot-execution style (what a coincidence!). After several years and a lawsuit, the company settled, reluctantly. Everyone was still convinced that she hired the person who killed her husband, but LE just could not prove it. That's why to me, the most telling factor is whether or not the insurance policy has been paid to JY. I don't think Jake ever answered me.

Jake, the insurance policy proceeds still haven't been paid? Has JY even tried to collect?

 

[Scout]

I've never asked him, but my GUESS is he is simply following his lawyer's advice. The insurance company? My GUESS is, it will never happen.

--Jake

Does that mean that you don't think Jason will try to get the insurance proceeds? Or do you believe that his lawyer will help him get the proceeds without having to subject himself to a deposition?

 

[Nomimi]

Does that mean that you don't think Jason will try to get the insurance proceeds? Or do you believe that his lawyer will help him get the proceeds without having to subject himself to a deposition?

He probably won't be back unless he can think of a riddle to throw together. He doesn't react well to direct questions.

 

[jake]

Since I used to pay life insurance claims, I can tell you that I don't think there is one. When I think back (I don't do that job anymore) I can only think of one case similar to this where the person the police suspected was not eventually charged. That women had 2 husbands that were both shot-execution style (what a coincidence!). After several years and a lawsuit, the company settled, reluctantly. Everyone was still convinced that she hired the person who killed her husband, but LE just could not prove it. That's why to me, the most telling factor is whether or not the insurance policy has been paid to JY. I don't think Jake ever answered me.

Jake, the insurance policy proceeds still haven't been paid? Has JY even tried to collect?

So far as I know, Jason has not even mentioned the insurance, let alone tried to collect.

--Jake

 

[jake]

Speaking in riddles again??? Hey, I've always wanted to ask you.... If you are so certain that Jason is innocent, why are you on line day in and day out trying so hard to convince everyone that he is? You almost seem paranoid about it. Did you help commit the murder in some way? Were you an accessory after the fact? I don't get it.

"Riddles"? I reckon I just explained "I reckon". Something you didn't understand?

Just a voice of reason on the board. "Paranoid"? Don't understand that reasoning.

--Jake

 

[Nomimi]

"Riddles"? I reckon I just explained "I reckon". Something you didn't understand?

Just a voice of reason on the board. "Paranoid"? Don't understand that reasoning.

--Jake

As soon as you answer my questions, I'll answer yours.

 

[jake]

Does that mean that you don't think Jason will try to get the insurance proceeds? Or do you believe that his lawyer will help him get the proceeds without having to subject himself to a deposition?

What I think? I think the insurance is not an item in Jason's mind. I believe when this is all over the insurance money will be there and will be used to benefit Cassie. That's what I believe.

--Jake

 

[Scout]

What I think? I think the insurance is not an item in Jason's mind. I believe when this is all over the insurance money will be there and will be used to benefit Cassie. That's what I believe.

--Jake

I certainly hope so, Jake. I don't consider funding Jason's defense against murder charges to be a valid use for that money. I wouldn't want to see that happen.

 

[jake]

Is the board divided still about the reason for the murder?

I went back to page 19 and counted six posters who seem to think Jason had motives and thus a plan for the killing (well, five posters and one "waffler" who has it both ways).

But I have read other posters who think it was a "rage" killing. Jason beat his wife to death in a fit of rage because she found out about MM and threatened to give him his freedom via divorce. It was not planned.

Do I have this wrong?

--Jake

 

[jake]

I certainly hope so, Jake. I don't consider funding Jason's defense against murder charges to be a valid use for that money. I wouldn't want to see that happen.

No worry. It can't happen. So long as Jason is a suspect, the insurance company will not pay.

--Jake

 

[Nomimi]

Is the board divided still about the reason for the murder?

I went back to page 19 and counted six posters who seem to think Jason had motives and thus a plan for the killing (well, five posters and one "waffler" who has it both ways).

But I have read other posters who think it was a "rage" killing. Jason beat his wife to death in a fit of rage because she found out about MM and threatened to give him his freedom via divorce. It was not planned.

Do I have this wrong?

--Jake

I think he wanted to be rid of her, but didn't plan to do it that night. I think he just snapped and it happened.

 

[philamena]

How right you are!

Funny thing is these guys want OUT, yet they adore the life that they have become accustomed to living.

So, what do they do? They kill the goose that they think will lay the "golden" life insurance egg.

So incredibly sad. When will they learn?

I'm with you 100%. Sadly, 5bigfish5, men like that may never learn.

 

[jake]

I'm with you 100%. Sadly, 5bigfish5, men like that may never learn.

So, Philamena, is it all right if I add you to the list of those who think this was a motivated, planned killing?

--Jake

 

[Scout]

Is the board divided still about the reason for the murder?

I went back to page 19 and counted six posters who seem to think Jason had motives and thus a plan for the killing (well, five posters and one "waffler" who has it both ways).

But I have read other posters who think it was a "rage" killing. Jason beat his wife to death in a fit of rage because she found out about MM and threatened to give him his freedom via divorce. It was not planned.

Do I have this wrong?

--Jake

I think rage would be a motive, too, Jake. I'm not sold on either theory -- preplanned or rage -- yet.

 

[jake]

I think rage would be a motive, too, Jake. I'm not sold on either theory -- preplanned or rage -- yet.

I understand your confusion. But I think "rage" is not a "motive". Motive implies a reason for doing something.

--Jake

 

[jake]

I think rage would be a motive, too, Jake. I'm not sold on either theory -- preplanned or rage -- yet.

Don't know how much of this I can legally copy. I find it interesting but don't know how valid it is since it comes from wikipedia and not a law book. It is SNIPPED++++++++++

--Jake

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motive_(law)

In law, especially criminal law, a motive is the cause that moves people and induce a certain action. Motive in itself is seldom an element of any given crime; however, the legal system typically allows motive to be proven in order to make plausible the accused's reasons for committing a crime, at least when those motives may be obscure or hard to identify with.
The law technically distinguishes between motive and intent. "Intent" in criminal law is synonymous with mens rea, which means no more than the specific mental purpose to perform a deed that is forbidden by a criminal statute, or the reckless disregard of whether the law will be violated. "Motive" describes instead the reasons in the accused's background and station in life that are supposed to have induced the crime.

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