MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #9 - Chauvin Trial Day 6

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  • #141
I understand that, but 'thought he was dead' didn't stop the ER doc from still trying for a half hour. I don't know... it bothers me... paramedics had just got on the scene, he could have stopped breathing just as they pulled up, they didn't know how long it was, why wait minutes before working on him?

All JMO
I think they started working on him as soon as he was loaded into the ambulance, from what I remember. They also were not told that the officers had been kneeling on Floyd's neck and back for nine minutes, which would have been an important detail.
 
  • #142
I AM SO TICKED OFF THIS MOMENT. The Dr. From the medical center is testifying about blood gases like CO2. OMG. This poor man took all his last breaths while laying at the back of the car inches from the muffler pipe. He was put on the ground at the back of the car, no camera there, to breathe by the exhaust while they were stopping his breathing.

I believe that you might be mixing up two different gases. Carbon monoxide is what would come out of a muffler pipe.

Carbon dioxide is CO2
 
  • #143
DBM
 
  • #144
I think I read there is a lot of gang activity there. Probably a lot of shootings and drug dealing. Imo
Thao said in his interview it is a known spot (Cup) for the Blood Gang to hang out. This corner had a history long before Floyd.
 
  • #145
Was the car running?

I believe the car was running, but what I said above I will say again....

"I believe that you might be mixing up two different gases. Carbon monoxide is what would come out of a muffler pipe.

Carbon dioxide is CO2."
 
  • #146
Can I ask where have you got the "clapping" from? If it's in reference to this picture, he's not clapping. He's like stretching/playing/counting with his fingers. Think it would be highly damaging if he was clapping and I've seen no footage of that.

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Source : youtube.com/watch?v=533E-fv6yCM
Yes, that's the picture I was talking about. It looks like he has both hands together as if he is clapping. I missed the part about him counting. What or why was he counting?
 
  • #147
The Hennepin County Public Safety Facility shall allow Morries Hall a set of civilian clothing and the opportunity to change into that civilian clothing prior to his 8:30 a.m. appearance in the above-entitled matter on April 6, 2021 and shall not require him to appear in jail “scrubs” for his appearance at that hearing
Order04052021.pdf (mncourts.gov)
 
  • #148
I believe the car was running, but what I said above I will say again....

"I believe that you might be mixing up two different gases. Carbon monoxide is what would come out of a muffler pipe.

Carbon dioxide is CO2."

Yes, you are right. I deleted my question about the car running when I saw your post. :)
 
  • #149
Yes, that's the picture I was talking about. It looks like he has both hands together as if he is clapping. I missed the part about him counting. What or why was he counting?

O no sorry that was just my opinion. I personally don't see clapping here. I see someone stretching, playing or similar with their fingers. Don't think it's ever been raised in court what he's doing in this pic, so I'm more inclined to say (unless they're leaving it as a clanger near the end) that he's not clapping. MOO.
 
  • #150
Carbon monoxide, while deadly, is in small composition compared to nitrogen gases and carbon dioxide. I am not mixing up my gases. Biochem major here. Inappropriate to lay anyone's head near the exhaust pipe.
 
  • #151
Yes, that's the picture I was talking about. It looks like he has both hands together as if he is clapping. I missed the part about him counting. What or why was he counting?

What I thought was noteworthy about that hospital photo was that Chauvin was the only one not wearing a mask.
 
  • #152
Thao said in his interview it is a known spot (Cup) for the Blood Gang to hang out. This corner had a history long before Floyd.
That's right, that's where I heard it. I think he also mentioned shootings. Maybe he was looking out for Bloods while he was standing guard.
 
  • #153
Exhaust lets out nitrogen gas and like 17% CO2. How unfair is any of this..how can they ask about blood gas if this is where they put him????
I don't think the vehicle was running during this time.
 
  • #154
O no sorry that was just my opinion. I personally don't see clapping here. I see someone stretching, playing or similar with their fingers. Don't think it's ever been raised in court what he's doing in this pic, so I'm more inclined to say (unless they're leaving it as a clanger near the end) that he's not clapping. MOO.

When I saw that pic, my first thought was he was using hand sanitizer! Being in a hospital and all ;)
 
  • #155
O no sorry that was just my opinion. I personally don't see clapping here. I see someone stretching, playing or similar with their fingers. Don't think it's ever been raised in court what he's doing in this pic, so I'm more inclined to say (unless they're leaving it as a clanger near the end) that he's not clapping. MOO.
I would hope not. Unless he was praising the paramedics for their efforts. They didn't give up for 30 minutes.
 
  • #156
Just filed in court -- Morries Hall -- who was in the car with George Floyd -- is granted permission to appear in court tomorrow in civilian clothes. Apparently he is currently in the Hennepin County Jail -- and asked permission to avoid wearing jail scrubs at the morning hearing

That hearing is scheduled for 830am -- and it is a motion to quash his subpoena to testify. Hall is pleading the fifth -- to avoid incriminating himself by testifying in the trial.

https://twitter.com/louraguse/status/1379137977595596805?s=21
 
  • #157
Have they ever explained why it took the EMTs so long to arrive on scene?

How far away were the EMTs when the first code came in?

TIA!

JMHO
 
  • #158
YouTube link for afternoon testimony:

 
  • #159
Have they ever explained why it took the EMTs so long to arrive on scene?

How far away were the EMTs when the first code came in?

TIA!

JMHO
The first call was a code 2, a non emergency call, (injury to the mouth) then while they were on route it was upgraded to a code 3. Maybe that's why? I don't think we know how far away they were or what the traffic was like. In any case, LE had plenty of time to start CPR.
 
  • #160
Ex231 crisis policy

Definition of a crisis

Mental illness
Substance abuse
Overwhelming stressors

Further crisis intervention definition

What is officer supposed to do on crisis

Witness attempt to descscalte
 
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