MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 *officers charged* #3

[MinnesotaMary]

Why have they moved Mr. Chauvin to the back row - surely there's a reason.... is the reason what I suspect it is?

 

[MinnesotaMary]

And there's no COVID-19 screen now between defense lawyer and Mr. Chauvin: So are the reasons:
a. Get Mr. Chauvin as far away from jurors as possible (so no juror lady feels 'threatened')?? and
b. To make it look like defense lawyer believe def' is entirely innocent and 'good guy-police officer who's done nothing whatsoever wrong - no need to fear this wonderful man'?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Juror 36 has been dismissed for cause after he said it would be hard to remain impartial after learning of the city's settlement with George Floyd's family. Now there are only 8 jurors seated.
#DerekChauvinTrial #GeorgeFloyd

Juror 20 dismissed by the judge from jury service after learning about the city's settlement with George Floyd's family. This is the 2nd juror dismissed this morning during the re-questioning. Now, there are 7 seated jurors, down from 9.
#DerekChauvinTrial #GeorgeFloyd

https://twitter.com/fox9/status/1372187428723683328?s=21

 

[turaj]

another couple of days like yesterday and by Friday the judge will have to re-think things. Anyone have an updated composition of the jury with the two seated jurors gone?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

And there's no COVID-19 screen now between defense lawyer and Mr. Chauvin: So are the reasons:
a. Get Mr. Chauvin as far away from jurors as possible (so no juror lady feels 'threatened')?? and
b. To make it look like defense lawyer believe def' is entirely innocent and 'good guy-police officer who's done nothing whatsoever wrong - no need to fear this wonderful man'?

Dunno, didn't read into it myself any reasons as why the change during the ZOOM meeting. We'll see if he changes seats when jurors are in the room.


source: live feed from WaPo live feed of trial

ETA: That was only for ZOOM... he is back normal once the jurors are in the room.. as of 10:09 am and first juror in for questioning

 

[dixiegirl1035]

another couple of days like yesterday and by Friday the judge will have to re-think things. Anyone have an updated composition of the jury with the two seated jurors gone?

The two kicked last hour were 20 and 36. White male 30's #20, Hispanic male 20's #36. I can't find yesterday's update... only one from last friday.

SNIP BY POSTER...

ETA: See post 2 down... I found a link to post kicks

Does anyone have a COMPILATION of consistent media twitter feeds for this case?

 

[MinnesotaMary]

Thank you, Dixiegirl. IMO it's 100 percent tactical and no accident.
I used to have a reason nearly once/week for ~3 years I was in the area of the police precinct they burned down - and they tore/burned the rest of it down - I've seen 'walk through the area' live video streams on FB Live Video - one poster is some sort of reporter with name of something like 'RiotBunny' (I don't think that's exactly it - yes on Riot....). Anyhow, I've just been too shook up to actually go drive in ANY of the torn up areas now - I feel if I went and looked my brain would stay seered with the shock of it all.
I've kinda wanted to drive and see the downtown - same thing - I think it would blow my mind to see the big county court/government towers enclosed by razor wire/fencing-on-fencing, and they say piles of Nat'l Guard and law enf'.
I AM watching jury selection, but the WHOLE trial will be way, way too gory and emotionally upsetting for me - I can't watch a bit of that. I also get 'riled up' by BOTH defense AND prosecution lawyers - IMO 'hey this is NOT about 'winning' - it's about JUSTICE'.
I'm also struck by how incredibly smart they all are and this Judge has total control over the entire thing and he's completely 'Minnesota-Nice' - stunningly even-tempered and polite and 'upbeat' - keeps TOTAL control over the whole trial - and he never, ever gets tired - like he has AA batteries in him!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

another couple of days like yesterday and by Friday the judge will have to re-think things. Anyone have an updated composition of the jury with the two seated jurors gone?

Found the update after this am kicks (The two kicked last hour were 20 and 36. White male 30's #20, Hispanic male 20's #36.)

Jurors selected so far

• Juror No. 2: White man in his 20s
• Juror No. 9: Mixed/multiracial woman in her 20s
• Juror No. 19: White man in his 30s
• Juror No. 27: Black man in his 30s
• Juror No. 44: White woman in her 50s
• Juror No. 52: Black man in his 30s
• Juror No. 55: White woman in her 50s

Live: 2 seated jurors in Derek Chauvin trial dismissed

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[turaj]

commentators talking about only remedy as this point might be sequestration during trial but covid 19 makes this difficult as well as I don't think in Mn. we have ever had a sequestered jury...just not done. Judge Cahill has his work cut out for him...there needs to be some remedy here.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

We are back on: Juror #75 is up

commentators talking about only remedy as this point might be sequestration during trial but covid 19 makes this difficult as well as I don't think in Mn. we have ever had a sequestered jury...just not done. Judge Cahill has his work cut out for him...there needs to be some remedy here.

Other rememdies, not limited to change of venue or delay are also options. Again, after Casey Anthony... question that even without COVID Moo

Where are you seeing MSM commentary? Link as I've been looking for such. Where did you see such. TIA

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Morning all!

I really thought this was an open, and shut case, but I'm worried it really isn't. The more I read the more concerned I've become.

Did the DA perhaps overcharge this case because of feeling so much pressure to do so?

Another poster (I'm sorry I don't remember their name) mentioned it may be more inline with criminal negligence, and that has stuck in my mind since then.

The video of the defendant kneeling on George's neck for almost nine minutes was, and still is agonizing to watch.

However, trying to look at it without emotions it's now obvious the pressure to his neck had to be very little after all because if it had been the cause of his death would have been from being asphyxiated by the defendant kneeling on his neck.

Has the MSM disclosed all of the facts instead of just concentrating only on the kneeling on his neck? The reason I'm asking is in past cases similar to this case MSM reported false narratives omitting important things their viewers should have been told in order to know the full picture/facts surrounding each of the cases, and unfortunately there have been more than one case where it's happened.

I just wish the media would always put out all the information known each time its covered instead of it coming out afterwards leaving many blindsided because they weren't ever aware of all of the pertinent facts until afterwards when it's far too late, and so much damage has already been done.

A perfect example of how dangerous false narratives can be, among others, is Mike Brown's case in Ferguson. After the city lay in ruins, and after our then president and his AG prematurely blamed Officer Wilson ... an in depth thorough investigation by the DOJ found MB to be the aggressor against OW, and the shooting was ruled justified.

I pray this case is not one of those and isn't overcharged to appease others.

George most certainly does deserve justice, but the entire facts must come forward from the witness stand only for the proper justice to be handed down.

I truly wouldn't want to be a juror on this case.

Whoever does serve I can only hope they render their verdict based solely on the evidence/testimonies.

Jmho

 

[MinnesotaMary]

Oh! I just realized the reason def' moved to the back was because of what judge yelled about: The live video feed IS LETTING THE PUBLIC READ THE PAPERS ON DEF' (AND PROS') DESKS!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Morning all!

I really thought this was an open, and shut case, but I'm worried it really isn't. The more I read the more concerned I've become.

Did the DA perhaps overcharge this case because of feeling so much pressure to do so?

Another poster (I'm sorry I don't remember their name) mentioned it may be more inline with criminal negligence, and that has stuck in my mind since then.

The video of the defendant kneeling on George's neck for almost nine minutes was, and still is agonizing to watch.

However, trying to look at it without emotions it's now obvious the pressure to his neck had to be very little after all because if it had been the cause of his death would have been from being asphyxiated by the defendant kneeling on his neck.

Has the MSM disclosed all of the facts instead of just concentrating only on the kneeling on his neck? The reason I'm asking is in past cases similar to this case MSM reported false narratives omitting important things their viewers should have been told in order to know the full picture/facts surrounding each of the cases, and unfortunately there have been more than one case where it's happened.

I just wish the media would always put out all the information known each time its covered instead of it coming out afterwards leaving many blindsided because they weren't ever aware of all of the pertinent facts until afterwards when it's far too late, and so much damage has already been done.

A perfect example of how dangerous false narratives can be, among others, is Mike Brown's case in Ferguson. After the city lay in ruins, and after our then president and his AG prematurely blamed Officer Wilson ... an in depth thorough investigation by the DOJ found MB to be the aggressor against OW, and the shooting was ruled justified.

I pray this case is not one of those.

George most certainly does deserve justice, but the entire facts must come forward from the witness stand only for the proper justice to be handed down.

I truly wouldn't want to be a juror on this case.

Whoever does serve I can only hope they render their verdict based solely on the evidence/testimonies.

Jmho

This is why I (and probably 99% of the folks that have followed multiple trials) at WS like those cases in Florida focus on the ORIGINAL documents vs. mainstream interpretations. And we see how often in those circumstances, the truth vs. MSM. (That was when I stopped listening to Nancy Grace as she had sooooo much wrong, but shouted it from the rooftops to her viewers MOO)

ETA: Defendant has moved up to his normal spot...

 

[JerseyGirl]

After a longer than expected break, #DerekChauvinTrial is back on the record. Jury selection continues. Juror #75 begins this session on the witness stand. Judge Cahill just described over 200 in this prospective jury pool. Yesterday, prosecutors stated it was 329 people. @FOX9

Juror #75 says he watched some of the live stream of #DerekChauvinTrial before coming into court today. Says he wanted to see the set up & wasn't exposed to anything significant. He is unemployed and worried about his job search right now and what would happen if selected.

https://twitter.com/paulblume_fox9/status/1372203735749853184?s=21

 

[dixiegirl1035]

After a longer than expected break, #DerekChauvinTrial is back on the record. Jury selection continues. Juror #75 begins this session on the witness stand. Judge Cahill just described over 200 in this prospective jury pool. Yesterday, prosecutors stated it was 329 people. @FOX9

Juror #75 says he watched some of the live stream of #DerekChauvinTrial before coming into court today. Says he wanted to see the set up & wasn't exposed to anything significant. He is unemployed and worried about his job search right now and what would happen if selected.

https://twitter.com/paulblume_fox9/status/1372203735749853184?s=21

COVID affecting jury selection indeed is folks who have lost their jobs such as #75 (he has hot lead in next week), and are looking for new ones and then called for jury duty. All those, I would think, would have cause to be released unless another GOOD source of income............... this guy choked that he's already deferred mortgage. Jeez.................. he would dip into savings... too much to ask MOO. Defense continues questions... but I would think already for cause MOO

EGADS! This guy was called for jury duty 6 months ago and deferred as he was out of work due to COVID, and then he was called again. SMH

He went on livestream for an hour for this trial... UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM KICK FOR CAUSE! MOO, but perhaps defense wants more for court record on this guy?

Yep... defense continues

 

[Kakidoll]

After reading the Autopsy report, 27 million is crazy. I'm so over all these huge settlements. While the kneeling was horrible and should NOT have been done, it wasn't what killed him. And seeing he did the SAME act before just shows the 'acting' cops have to deal with all the time. This will only be an open and shut case if people are scared of retaliation. No way i'd be on that jury. And ones that are I think, are probably thinking of the payout at the end of the trial.
IMO, MOO and all that jazz.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

After reading the Autopsy report, 27 million is crazy. I'm so over all these huge settlements. While the kneeling was horrible and should NOT have been done, it wasn't what killed him. And seeing he did the SAME act before just shows the 'acting' cops have to deal with all the time. This will only be an open and shut case if people are scared of retaliation. No way i'd be on that jury. And ones that are I think, are probably thinking of the payout at the end of the trial.
IMO, MOO and all that jazz.

*waves* @Kakidoll

Would you support (not asking if opinion of guilty on such) that a charge of criminal negligence be added for true justice? Is there any criminal charge that might be appropriate as it is something I want to learn more about that he swallowed drugs before... but I haven't read much on, and have seen snippets he did such before. This is why I REALLY wish that we had Florida laws where we could see such information in the sunshine laws. I REALLY do! It would help for cases such as this MOO.

If indeed he did right before pop a bunch of fentynyl in his mouth to hide it.... that may indeed change opinions for such of some at WS... so "duty for care" is the real issue..... or ???

I agree with others, even though have been a WS'er for a long time.... this is gonna be a difficult case to sit on jury. Especially where you take that there were more than the one LE officer, and the others on his back may have contributed to... so how, in ONE trial.. do you do a division of responsibility as insurance does when they subrogate (as did the city council with the $27 million for all of the LE, not just one)

It's above my pay level for sure as a WS'er

 

[Chelly]

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Why have they moved Mr. Chauvin to the back row - surely there's a reason.... is the reason what I suspect it is?

Perhaps Mr. Cauvin was moved so he can more easily confer with the attorney at that table.

 

[Niner]

tweets are coming pretty slow....

Cathy Russon
@cathyrusson
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15m
#DerekChauvinTrial - PJ 75 first up today. Male. Currently unemployed but waiting on a job offer that could impact his ability to serve if he loses job opportunity.

Audio has been cut for this portion of PJ 75's questioning. The judge will order the audio cut if there's information that could be sensitive.

PJ75 feels police provide a valuable service and keep the community safe. "I've never had negative thoughts about it".



link: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Afternoon group has been brought in for the general "lecture" by the judge... we are moving to the pm folks in the am prior to lunch.