I'm actually shocked anyone would support an American journalist being arrested for practicing journalism. Scary times in America.Clearly we disagree. The grand jury also disagreed, which is why he was indicted.
So, I'll leave it at that.
I'm actually shocked anyone would support an American journalist being arrested for practicing journalism. Scary times in America.Clearly we disagree. The grand jury also disagreed, which is why he was indicted.
So, I'll leave it at that.
I fear you are rightIt's a show of force -
You think you have rights ?
Watch this !
Pushing the envelope
They all believe that the law does not apply to them -
Judges orders ? they are immune to those too
And it all comes with a side of chaos
It's the sF
Fear/Compliance is the point
JMO
Are you prosecuting the case? Otherwise maybe hold off your assumptions or conclusions until the case ends.It's good to know you agree protesting in churches should not happen.
I believe (based on what I know) and the grand jury believed based on all the evidence they had available to them, that Don Lemon was indeed with the protestors inside the church, engaging in utterly inexcusable behavior, violating federal law.
jmo
”A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich” - Chief Judge Sol Wachtler. I don’t think a grand jury indictment is a slam dunk, as they are presented with only the prosecutions side with zero evidence or rebuttal from the defense. I think the fact that 2 different judges refused to issue an arrest warrant (one was a singular judge, one was a panel of 3 judges) says more about the case than the fact that the DOJ was able to find a Grand Jury to indict.It's good to know you agree protesting in churches should not happen.
I believe (based on what I know) and the grand jury believed based on all the evidence they had available to them, that Don Lemon was indeed with the protestors inside the church, engaging in utterly inexcusable behavior, violating federal law.
jmo
There is nothing wrong with having a job as a federal immigration officer and it is in no way a bad fit for a pastor.
By chance I was watching his live stream that day. He had no knowledge ahead of time, nor part of the planning. He makes a practice of asking questions of people he comes in contact with while on the ground, and was told about some gathering at a church. He was respectful even about entering the church, asking people outside about what was going on. As far as I could tell he was there briefly documenting, then left. For what it's worth....”A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich” - Chief Judge Sol Wachtler. I don’t think a grand jury indictment is a slam dunk, as they are presented with only the prosecutions side with zero evidence or rebuttal from the defense. I think the fact that 2 different judges refused to issue an arrest warrant (one was a singular judge, one was a panel of 3 judges) says more about the case than the fact that the DOJ was able to find a Grand Jury to indict.
As I stated before, I’m willing to keep an open mind and change my opinion on the case if more actual facts and proof is shown that Don Lemon was part of the planning process of this protest. I hope that people who seem very set in their opinions on this case can also remain open minded as we learn more. But I also see a huge violation of his first amendment right of free press and that’s the real heart of this case. All MOO.
It seems we know. Basic humanity is lacking going by the church type. Love to hear from any attendees who have an open mind and not aware, maybe someone that went along with another. I remember originally, a person, not shown or named, said did not know about what the protesters were saying and of course very surprised by it. Things people in the moment before the fear of being found out starts and possible trouble for them. IMOI wonder what would happen if somebody brown saught sanctuary in his church. Which job would he put prioritise![]()
I truly think to prove this case, the DOJ will need actual hard proof, like a text chain where Don Lemon himself was planning or organizing this protest. They can’t just say “he was with the protestors, he’s a protestor” as their only proof, as he was actively acting as a reporter in every video and his own live stream. I understand people are very upset that a church was being protested against and I don’t disagree that is an issue. But it comes down to Don Lemon being there as a journalist. Journalists report on news that is controversial, uncomfortable and sometimes illegal. That’s part of their job. All MOOBy chance I was watching his live stream that day. He had no knowledge ahead of time, nor part of the planning. He makes a practice of asking questions of people he comes in contact with while on the ground, and was told about some gathering at a church. For what it's worth....
Agree 100%.I truly think to prove this case, the DOJ will need actual hard proof, like a text chain where Don Lemon himself was planning or organizing this protest. They can’t just say “he was with the protestors, he’s a protestor” as their only proof, as he was actively acting as a reporter in every video and his own live stream. I understand people are very upset that a church was being protested against and I don’t disagree that is an issue. But it comes down to Don Lemon being there as a journalist. Journalists report on news that is controversial, uncomfortable and sometimes illegal. That’s part of their job. All MOO
That's the question - whether the man was a journalist or an agitator. Did he have an opinion about the people in the church prior to asking them questions, or was he gathering information so that his audience could form an independent opinion?I'm actually shocked anyone would support an American journalist being arrested for practicing journalism. Scary times in America.
By chance I was watching his live stream that day. He had no knowledge ahead of time, nor part of the planning. He makes a practice of asking questions of people he comes in contact with while on the ground, and was told about some gathering at a church. He was respectful even about entering the church, asking people outside about what was going on. As far as I could tell he was there briefly documenting, then left. For what it's worth....
Then every journalist alive is guilty of being a participate in the stories they report. All of them get "tips" and follow up on them, then document and report. That's their job.View attachment 641070
I see the person who prepared/signed the affidavit has opinions on the Renee Good incident. MOO RG was not involved in an illegal protest.
Some of the redactions I can positively tell are DL's name redacted based on context around them and what I know about DL's livestream. Some are not so clear and IMO may refer to Fort. What I can tell refers to DL is disturbing. It would be one thing IMO if he had received a phone call or messages saying get to [church address] a "disruption/protest" is about to happen. But his meeting up at the grocery store parking lot. His livestreaming the prep for this event, his seeming, to me, clear knowledge of where they were going beforehand and taking measures not to give it away, his entry into the church to watch thatshow go down, all of that to me doesn't exactly scream journalistic integrity or disinterested third party observer. That is JMO I am a bit disappointed in his decisions that day. I worry he crossed a line.
I haven't landed on a particular side of the fence yet, but I am taking the info in as it becomes available.
What does it have to do with what he did or did not do during the demonstration in the church?My question here, is that Mr. Lemon is no longer working for a news agency. Did he travel to Minneapolis to insert himself into a drama to be relevant again?