MN - Journalist Don Lemon arrested for church protest, Minneapolis, 18 Jan 2026

  • #361
Sure plenty of interesting unpaywalled sources, google Doug Wilson and Joe Rigney 👍For example this one:

Thank you @CrimeDawg123 for affording this context about the church and it's particular type of religion.

It would seem the protesters knew their target market. I think they could have made their point outside of the church after the service but I also think the ICEmen can do there job without flaunting the law - so maybe just an evening out of the playing field or the basic tit for tat.

It appears to me that his is a truly Maga church. It helps to explain to me so comments I read from others that I struggle to make sense of. Separation of church and state - a concept I dearly believe in - went out the window years ago I guess.

Snippets from the article :

Joe Rigney quoted below from the article is a Cities Church pastor, currently on staff in Moscow Idaho
BBM

"We’re trying to build a civilization,” Rigney proclaimed.

Naselli added, “We’re building and fighting for God’s glory,” mentioning the possibility of flipping Minnesota red.

To do this, they’re ignoring sharing the gospel with anyone who might lean to the left and are focusing on MAGA Republicans. As Naselli put it, he’s not interested in reaching “liberal blue elite people,” but “non-Christian, red leaning people who are like Elon Musk” who “have common sense.”

One way they’re building their civilization is through the promotion of ICE. Wolfe said, “ICE might be one of the most critical government agencies in our nation right now. In many ways, they’re the heroes.”

He went on to say Jonathan Ross, the ICE officer who killed Renee Good, is an “All American hero.”

So why are we surprised one of the Cities Church pastors would be a director for ICE"
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To Rigney, the true victim in all this is apparently white men. He said the focus on immigrants has led to “the forgotten man … because he’s not an appropriate object of compassion.”

Truly illuminating to someone so far removed from this type of religion

JMO
 
  • #362
Thank you @CrimeDawg123 for affording this context about the church and it's particular type of religion.

It would seem the protesters knew their target market. I think they could have made their point outside of the church after the service but I also think the ICEmen can do there job without flaunting the law - so maybe just an evening out of the playing field or the basic tit for tat.

It appears to me that his is a truly Maga church. It helps to explain to me so comments I read from others that I struggle to make sense of. Separation of church and state - a concept I dearly believe in - went out the window years ago I guess.

Snippets from the article :

Joe Rigney quoted below from the article is a Cities Church pastor, currently on staff in Moscow Idaho
BBM

"We’re trying to build a civilization,” Rigney proclaimed.

Naselli added, “We’re building and fighting for God’s glory,” mentioning the possibility of flipping Minnesota red.

To do this, they’re ignoring sharing the gospel with anyone who might lean to the left and are focusing on MAGA Republicans. As Naselli put it, he’s not interested in reaching “liberal blue elite people,” but “non-Christian, red leaning people who are like Elon Musk” who “have common sense.”

One way they’re building their civilization is through the promotion of ICE. Wolfe said, “ICE might be one of the most critical government agencies in our nation right now. In many ways, they’re the heroes.”

He went on to say Jonathan Ross, the ICE officer who killed Renee Good, is an “All American hero.”

So why are we surprised one of the Cities Church pastors would be a director for ICE"
//

To Rigney, the true victim in all this is apparently white men. He said the focus on immigrants has led to “the forgotten man … because he’s not an appropriate object of compassion.”

Truly illuminating to someone so far removed from this type of religion

JMO
SO, I would think the attendees and their families, friends, know all this? Ross, who's killing of Renee G has been termed homicide by the medical examiner, so. Praise your Lord people, it's not the real one. IMO
 
  • #363
Those church members don’t owe protesters, agitators , Don Lemon or any Joe Public any explanation, zero. They were there to worship not be dragged into someone else’s political crusade. IMO

Can I get an AMEN !!!

Peace
 
  • #364
So you want to make an assertion, and then claim the evidence is out there, but you won't provide it. Pretty sure there is no such evidence and that's why you refuse to provide it. So back to my original statement: Lemon did nothing you claim.

MOO.
The grand jury believed that Lemon did what is claimed by the prosecution. They indicted him after hearing the evidence against him.
 
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There will also be witnesses from among the congregation and some may have their own videos. And he was indicted by a grand jury so they believed their was probable cause that he was guilty of the offences as charged.

I assume the trial will be in Minnesota? I don't think they would have all the witnesses travel away from their homes.

There will also likely be a civil suit, no matter what happens at the criminal trial. I look forward to the church members and the church getting justice.

Grand jury, ham sandwich and all. Also, the last time a GJ supposedly handed down an indictment for a high-profile case the DOJ was handling, it turned out to be a farce, IIRC, and all charges were dismissed.

So a GJ indictment doesn't lend credibility to this.

MOO.
 
  • #369
Ross, who's killing of Renee G has been termed homicide by the medical examiner, so.
<Snipped for focus>

Homicide is the manner of death, it is not murder. It just means that RG died as a result of a fatal shooting. The ruling of the ME means nothing more or less. Nothing to do with murder.
 
  • #370
I'm sure they do. This church, however, has a pastor who works for law enforcement at the federal level who deal with the arrests of illegal immigrants in our country. And it has nothing to do with this case of Lemon and company storming a church in the U.S. which is against the law.

Well, it has everything to do with it, as the protesters wouldn't have been there if the director of field operations for ICE wasn't an active pastor of that church.

The charges - no matter how weak they are against Don Lemon - will be a separate matter. Because the court won't be looking at the 'why' of the protesting. It will only be looking at Don Lemon's conduct at the time. If it crossed any journalistic line.

imo
 
  • #371
Did Don Lemon publish factual information about that church?

There is literally no way for us to know right now, but I tend to believe actual journalists (read: not independent podcasters who've never even taken a journalism class) report the truth until I'm proven wrong. They do so for many reasons, including their own reputation and credibility and also defamation lawsuits.

Lemon's age-restricted "journalistic" youtube video appears to be about disrupting a religious meeting.

It is about protestors disrupting the religious meeting. He is reporting on what is happening, which is what journalists do.

In my opinion, Don Lemon has become the news, and other journalists are researching and gathering facts about why he was involved in a protest that violated the FACE Act.

Don Lemon became the news because he was arrested, not because he was reporting on the protestors. The majority of other journalists are defending him because they realize this is a prime example of government overreach and a violation of the 1st Amendment.

MOO
 
  • #372
The type of church doesn't matter at all, according to the federal statutes that the grand jury found were violated. That's the important part.

Literally, even if it was the Church of Satan, they have the same federal protections under the law that any other recognized religious house of worship has. (I have no idea if they're actually a recognized church but my point stands).

jmo
All true @OM

But doesn't it just add another layer

At least for me to understand why the church is so hell bent on prosecution for this trangression
( also as an aside there were MANY protestors - why are they all not being charged ? )

I was brought up in a different religion - one more based on tolerance and compassion - so I had a disconnect on what was happening. I think my church would not prosecute but would use that type of disturbance as a learning experience/a teachable moment.

I understand the law is the law.
But I also believe in a merciful and compassionate God not a punitive one.
Each to their own

Its been a learning experience for me for sure.

Websleuths does not dissapoint.

JMO
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  • #373
Reading the law cited by @otto , my guess is that Don Lemon is going to get squeezed. His status as journalist might not matter.

The law states that it is illegal for anybody to interfere with a religious service by physical obstruction at a place of worship. So.... Lemon following the rioters in, then "interviewing" the church goers sound like he physically obstructed a church service.

Likewise, if I follow rioters into a mosque service and shove my phone into an Imams face and then "interview" him about radical Islam (my phone and my blog make me an independent journalist- right?), I would be physically obstructing / interfering with a mosque service.

Do we think that judges aren't familiar with the law? Because two judges refused to sign the warrant, even stating that the evidence does not show that he broke the law.

Link in this thread.
 
  • #374
Is there a legal definition of "journalist"? And, especially an "independent journalist"?

There is no debating that Don Lemon is a professional journalist. Tricia actually posted a really good post about this. This man has worked for decades making a living on reporting the news, hired and credentialed by CNN. He is a professional journalist. So we can debate the others who coin themselves independent journalists, but when someone has the education, training, and credentials, he's a journalist.

IMO, that isn't the question in Lemon's case. The only question in Lemon's case is was he acting as a journalist or a participant and IMO, it's very clear from the evidence thus far, he was acting as a journalist.

MOO.
 
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<Snipped for focus>

Homicide is the manner of death, it is not murder. It just means that RG died as a result of a fatal shooting. The ruling of the ME means nothing more or less. Nothing to do with murder.b
But it does mean the person was killed and not by suicide or accident. He knows. IMO
 
  • #376
If Don Lemon's journalistic intent was to present evidence-based verified facts, gathered openly and responsibly in accordance with professional ethics, why is his published information restricted to protesters at a church?

SBMFF. Because that's how journalism works. When there's a fire and every journalist is covering the family for NBC, ABC, CNN, etc, you'll see a reporter for CBS covering the neighbor who called 911 instead. This happens in every single story. Journalists compete for their stories and it's always about finding a different thing or a different angle or being some place no one else is. This is nothing new. Nothing Lemon did is anything new.

MOO.
 
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But it does mean the person was killed and not by suicide or accident. He knows. IMO
Yes, it means that the person (in this case) was fatally shot, and it includes justifiable shootings by LE.
 
  • #378
SBMFF. Because that's how journalism works. When there's a fire and every journalist is covering the family for NBC, ABC, CNN, etc, you'll see a reporter for CBS covering the neighbor who called 911 instead. This happens in every single story. Journalists compete for their stories and it's always about finding a different thing or a different angle or being some place no one else is. This is nothing new. Nothing Lemon did is anything new.

MOO.
This wasn't a fire or any kind of emergency. It was a Sunday church service with families with their children worshipping.
 
  • #379
Lemon is a disgraced former journalist. He now has a social media site and calls himself an independent journalist. Anyone can do the same.

Is he disgraced? Just because CNN cut ties doesn't make him "disgraced." That's just your opinion. Mine is different.

And no, everyone can't do the same because they don't have his credentials, training, and experience. Pretending that the influencer of the week or the soccer mom or soccer dad down the road can just pick up a camera and be in the same league is a crazy minimization of who he is and the experience he has.

MOO.
 
  • #380
I fully agree. I am hoping that the concept applies to journalists disrupting the functioning of a church, mosque, temple by giving "interviews".
No! And in a million words, NO! My brother is a pastor of his church and TOTALLY disagrees with ICE. ❤️ MOO f’ing MOO.
 

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