MN- Minneapolis, mass shooting at church, multiple fatalities, possible explosive device found. Aug 2025

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One of the children still recovering from their injuries has since been identified as 12-year-old Sophia Forchas, who was critically wounded in the attack.

Her mother Amy, a pediatric critical care nurse, was treating those injured in the attack at Hennepin Healthcare in the city when her daughter was taken to hospital.

'Her mother arrived at work to help during the tragedy, before knowing it was her children's school that was attacked, and that her daughter was critically injured,' a family friend wrote in a fundraiser.

'Her parents are by her side, holding onto hope while also trying to support their son through the emotional aftermath.'

Sophia had emergency surgery at her mother's hospital and doctors were working to stabilize her in the ICU, they added.

'Her road ahead will be long, uncertain, and incredibly difficult - but she is strong, and she is not alone,' they wrote.

'Adding to the heartbreak, her younger brother was also inside the school during the shooting.

Though he was physically unharmed, the trauma of witnessing such a terrifying event - and knowing his sister was critically injured - is something no child should ever experience.'
 
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Weed psychosis?
I'd guess that weed probably didn't cause their issues (whatever was going on with them sounds like something that was brewing for a long time), but it likely didn't help!
 
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One of the children still recovering from their injuries has since been identified as 12-year-old Sophia Forchas, who was critically wounded in the attack.

Her mother Amy, a pediatric critical care nurse, was treating those injured in the attack at Hennepin Healthcare in the city when her daughter was taken to hospital.

'Her mother arrived at work to help during the tragedy, before knowing it was her children's school that was attacked, and that her daughter was critically injured,' a family friend wrote in a fundraiser.

'Her parents are by her side, holding onto hope while also trying to support their son through the emotional aftermath.'

Sophia had emergency surgery at her mother's hospital and doctors were working to stabilize her in the ICU, they added.

'Her road ahead will be long, uncertain, and incredibly difficult - but she is strong, and she is not alone,' they wrote.

'Adding to the heartbreak, her younger brother was also inside the school during the shooting.

Though he was physically unharmed, the trauma of witnessing such a terrifying event - and knowing his sister was critically injured - is something no child should ever experience.'
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Replying to my own post to make the point that we are finally hearing about the victims of this horrendous crime and not talking about the sick and evil punk who murdered and critically injured these young and bright and beautiful children. Prayers for Sophia and her family - mother Amy, father and brother.
 
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Beautiful choice for an anthem. Hymn (vocal version) written in 1907 by Henry van Dyke.

"Ode to Joy" - "An die Freude"

was written in the summer of 1785
by the German poet, playwright, and historian
Friedrich Schiller.

"Ode to Joy" is best known for its use by
Ludwig van Beethoven
in the final (fourth) movement of his Ninth Symphony, completed in 1824.

 
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I think the shooter was anti everything. That's the problem right there.

I very much agree.

Anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish, anti-children, anti-bio gender but then also disowning the new gender, claims to love family but chose to kill where the mother had worked and must have known she had colleagues there.

Anti-everything plus labeling Trump as someone to be killed.

I saw a picture of RW target-shooting at a picture of Jesus, but I can’t find the source now so I can’t show it.
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It looks like the parents have been supportive of RW’s choices and I imagine this is something they’d never have foreseen, since apparently they were unaware of the manifesto and YouTube violent videos.

Little kids, praying in the pews, having to bear the brunt of the anger, bitterness and madness of this person.

RW seemed to be going scorched earth on everyone. Anyone could have been the target, as it seems everyone was hated. Why this place this day, who can know.

IMO
 
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That picture with the older kids escorting the younger kids out is heartbreaking with the fear on their little faces.

When my kids were in Pre-K thru 8th Catholic school the 7th and 8th graders were paired with the Pre-K and K children as big brother/little brother and big sister/little sister. It was a buddy system for safety when the entire student body was together. The littles would sit sandwiched between the bigs, alternating. It looks like there may have been a similar situation at this school. imo
 
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"Ode to Joy" - "An die Freude"

was written in the summer of 1785
by the German poet, playwright, and historian
Friedrich Schiller.

"Ode to Joy" is best known for its use by
Ludwig van Beethoven
in the final (fourth) movement of his Ninth Symphony, completed in 1824.

Beautiful.

But I was referring to the hymn by Van Dyke written in 1907 that we sing in Church, it's a different vocal version from Schiller's poem. My post was contrasting the Hymn to Joy or Ode to Joy with the shooter's ode to death.
 
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It’s not a “respect the victims” issue. There’s a court order.
it’s not legal to kill people,. I think that is the most important thing to note about the evil murderer.
 
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I very much agree.

Anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish, anti-children, anti-bio gender but then also disowning the new gender, claims to love family but chose to kill where the mother had worked and must have known she had colleagues there.

Anti-everything plus labeling Trump as someone to be killed.

I saw a picture of RW target-shooting at a picture of Jesus, but I can’t find the source now so I can’t show it.
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It looks like the parents have been supportive of RW’s choices and I imagine this is something they’d never have foreseen, since apparently they were unaware of the manifesto and YouTube violent videos.

Little kids, praying in the pews, having to bear the brunt of the anger, bitterness and madness of this person.

RW seemed to be going scorched earth on everyone. Anyone could have been the target; as it seems everyone was hated. Why this place this day, who can know.

IMO
I think this guy just wanted to kill himself and make as big of a news splash as possible. He targeted everyone and everything that would check the box to ensure that his name stays in everyone's mind for years to come.
I have a brother-in law who could be considered supportive of his kids. In that he gives my niece and nephew whatever they want just to keep them occupied and/or quiet. Sort of "out of sight out of mind" approach to parenting. More interested in being the kids buddy than being the parent. I wonder if that is what has been going on here.
 
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I have a brother-in law who could be considered supportive of his kids. In that he gives my niece and nephew whatever they want just to keep them occupied and/or quiet. Sort of "out of sight out of mind" approach to parenting. More interested in being the kids buddy than being the parent. I wonder if that is what has been going on here.
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Very likely, JMO.


EBM
 
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IMO we don’t know anything about how RW was raised, other than the mother was willing to authorize the change of name/gender.

To me the family are victims as well. Nobody wants this to be their kid.

Sometimes someone is just a bad seed. I firmly believe that. My sister’s first husband had an adorable little niece who in her 40s killed both her mother and grandmother. These are people I’ve known since I was 14, long long before that niece was born. Her dad was an NYPD cop and the family was normal, although the grandparents were very wealthy and lived in an exclusive neighborhood in NYC.

Nothing indicates to me that RW’s parents screwed up their child.

JMO, and this may always be an unknowable case.
 
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I'd guess that weed probably didn't cause their issues (whatever was going on with them sounds like something that was brewing for a long time), but it likely didn't help!
It may not have caused them but it's very possible that it activated an underlying susceptibility in someone who may have been genetically predisposed to mental illness, including schizophrenia.
 
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What court order? Just curious.

As far as i know the “court order” was for name change from Robert to Robin.

Didn’t know you needed a “court order” for gender change.

Jmo
 
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I wonder if some of this "pain in the world" that he mentioned is just her consuming too-much-negative-news that people can fall into. It can consume you.

Thinking that all the negative news they read is what the real world is and not understanding that it is just media/news organizations trying to get clicks and readership. They did a study and found that news is 4500% more negative that the sum total of the lives of all people surveyed. For example, when someone gets murdered in El Paso and it make the news, they think that murder rate is closing in on them. I don't know...

This discernment for a young inexperienced person is especially hard when they might be isolated and only get their view of the world thru the media or negative fear-mongering web sites.

This was just a stray thought. I mean after all, this 23 year old had a roof over his head, 3 square meals a day and had changed his gender identity.. .so what real world problems were really holding him down? Sees rich people and thinks it's unfair because he only graduated HS and could only make minimum wage? Thinks it is society's fault he is failing?

I guess it easy for me to say at 64 years old and have a lot of perspective on what to consider a real threat and what else out there is just hot air to sell something...
 
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