MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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But in this case, they did know who ICE was targeting. He went into the donut shop and the owner locked the door and ICE was unable to come in. At that point, ICE should have left the scene and gone to get a judicial warrant or whatever they may have needed to apprehend their target. That’s literally their ONLY job. They didn’t do that. They pushed over 2 women and then shot a man in the back.

I swear, people are totally forgetting about this very important statement. Moo.

ICE should have left the scene and gone to get a judicial warrant or whatever they may have needed to apprehend their target.
 
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To be precise the text you linked
Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.

First, according yo your source Alex did not have an ID. It says nothing about him having or not the permit on his person.

Second, the same source (the feds) that claims he did not have the ID, also claimed he was attacking the agents which, as we know, completely untrue.

Third, what we should be analysing here is not Alex's decision to carry, but the decision of the two agents to pump ten bullets into the back of unarmed man, who was pinned to the ground.

MOO 🐄
 
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I certainly dont see it that way. ICE has requested that Minneapolis police assist with crowd control in these situations. The Mayor wont allow it. They aren't asking MPD to help them with the immigration arrests, just to keep the peace. Isn't that a police department's job? Neither one of these fatal shootings would have happened if police had been on scene to help with crowd control.
Well said.
 
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Thank you PrairieWind. Can you link to that? I have no idea what this is. If you could, that would be great. Thank you.
Sorry, I should have done that. Looks like it has been posted. This is just the Minnesota revised statutes.
 
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Another woman is facing charges after allegedly biting the finger of a federal immigration enforcement agent on Saturday in Minneapolis...

When the Border Patrol agent attempted to remove the mask Baierl was wearing, Baierl allegedly forcibly bit the middle finger on the agent’s right hand, the affidavit states.

The Border Patrol agent was wearing gloves at the time of the incident, but Baierl’s bite was still allegedly able to cause physical injury, the affidavit states.

Baierl was released from custody by a judge on her own recognizance. A preliminary hearing in the matter has yet to be set.

 
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After reviewing a few posts that I deleted by PrairieWind and others a bit earlier, I am going to reinstate those posts.
Please understand that in the history of Websleuths, we have never had a situation like this. I am doing the best I can to keep the discussion fair.
 
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From your article -

On Tuesday, DHS announced it was launching an investigation into a US citizen “who attempted to purchase a firearm on two separate occasions,” allegedly stated she wanted to “protect herself from ICE Agents, and also to kill ICE Agents.”

Wow, that is pretty scary, I hope they find her. Some of these people on social media are unhinged, to say the least. And they show up at protests, too, along with the "peaceful" protesters.
 
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From your article -

On Tuesday, DHS announced it was launching an investigation into a US citizen “who attempted to purchase a firearm on two separate occasions,” allegedly stated she wanted to “protect herself from ICE Agents, and also to kill ICE Agents.”

Wow, that is pretty scary, I hope they find her. Some of these people on social media are unhinged, to say the least. And they show up at protests, too, along with the "peaceful" protesters.
Well, that is obviously not acceptable at all. Saying she wants to "protect" herself from ICE agents, though - that seems to fall within her 2nd Amendment rights, to me? Self defence is lawful and isn't restricted on the basis of who your attacker may be, surely?

I'm no expert and not a US citizen but I think I've heard of protecting the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, or somesuch?
 
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Snopes was wrong multiple times in the past.

MOO 🐄
Fair enough. I also linked to MBFC. If anyone can link a source proving different - I’d like to see it. moo

Here’s another fact check source -

5. Assessment and what remains unproven
Based on the supplied reporting, the claim that the phrase functions as a shorthand for Nazi-style collective reprisal is widely circulated and used rhetorically, and commentators tie it to Lidice and other Nazi reprisals—yet the sources provided do not include archival proof that the exact English wording “One of ours, all of yours” was an official Nazi slogan in 1942; the evidence in these excerpts is inferential and rhetorical rather than documentary. To move from plausible association to verified etymology would require primary-source confirmation—wartime orders, propaganda texts, or credible historian citations—not present in the materials supplied here, and that absence should temper absolutist claims even as the phrase’s invocation remains politically and morally potent.
 
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When the Border Patrol agent attempted to remove the mask Baierl was wearing, Baierl allegedly forcibly bit the middle finger on the agent’s right hand, the affidavit states.

Why was the border agent removing this woman’s mask? It is not illegal to wear a mask, as the border patrol all wear them.
 
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that’s your opinion and you are free to think that. I think that the safest thing for Minnesotans would be to not have 3000 (poorly trained) Federal agents invade and occupy their city. IMO.
We wouldn't need that many federal immigration enforcement officers if the state and local leaders would do their part and allow their LE to provide the establishment of perimeters and boundaries between federal agents' operations and protester gatherings.
 
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I disagree. Was he carrying ID and his permit? If not, he was not carrying legally.
Ah well then, shooting him 10 times in the street is justified!!!!! It all makes sense now....jmo.
 
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At public universities in our state all faculty, staff and students who carry have to leave their firearms in their cars, they are not allowed to bring their concealed carry into the buildings. At some of our state universities, the boards of trustees don't even allow cc to be left in their cars, they're not allowed on the campus grounds at all.

While that might be a law we know that it doesn't mean people comply. I'm trying to remember which mass shooting occurred at a college or university, there's so many. But at one there were two retired military members who still had concealed weapons on them even thought they weren't allowed. They spoke to some news outlet who asked why they didn't stop the shooter and one of them said, I could have but there were no guarantees I could have ended the threat. I got down and didn't engage because once LE were on the scene I knew me having a weapon meant they may have shot me as a threat.

That isn't verbatim just reiterating what he said. I can't find the link to the story.

Another time more recently, there was an off duty plainclothes cop in a bar/disco who was jiving to the music so enthusiastically that his weapon fell out of his holster and discharged scaring the hell out of the patrons.

So those are just isolated incidents where people continue to take weapons where they aren't allowed. To believe that everyone who owns a gun, especially a concealed weapon, follow the rules is very disingenuous, imo.
 
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ICE is there trying to do their jobs and mobs keep interfering. If people just videoed from the sidewalk etc there wouldn't be a problem.
What job are they doing? Because so far all I can see is them being overly aggressive, causing chaos by being so unorganised, assaulting people and oh yeah, murdering US citizens. Jmo.
 
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But in this case, they did know who ICE was targeting. He went into the donut shop and the owner locked the door and ICE was unable to come in. At that point, ICE should have left the scene and gone to get a judicial warrant or whatever they may have needed to apprehend their target. That’s literally their ONLY job. They didn’t do that. They pushed over 2 women and then shot a man in the back.
The targets of federal immigration enforcement that day are not known to the public, except the one target who it is reported (not by federal law enforcement) hid out in a local business building. There may have been other targets in the area, we don't know. Speculating about what federal immigration enforcements should or should not have done after they weren't immediately able to apprehend that target is just that, speculation. Maybe they were waiting for a warrant to arrive. Maybe they were rethinking their operations as they waited, etc. It is pure speculation that they should have left that area.
 
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It's pretty sad to realize that people believe that the protesters are all paid agitators. That we have fallen so far as a humane society that it's inconceivable to some that ordinary good brave people are willing to fight for human rights that previous generations fought and sacrificed for in the pursuit of a better society.
As a real flesh and blood protestor, I can assure you we are not being paid. We are taking time out of our day and away from our family to stand up for the rights of all, including those who wish us harm.
 

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