MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

  • #121
Might wanna give a trigger warning that you can see her body
OMG - the agents left the scene?!?

They shot a civilian and then left?
 
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  • #122
I cited two cases upthread where ICE claimed they were attacked with a vehicle, shot the occupants, and the charges against the occupants were dropped due to lack of evidence. ICE is repeatedly lying about the danger to them caused by civilians in vehicles.

ICE are jumpy. They know that everyone hates them. Makes them trigger-happy. imo
 
  • #123
OMG - the agents got left the scene?!?

They shot a civilian and then left?
Not all agents immediately left the scene, but the one who shot her did shortly after.
 
  • #124
A) she isn't required to comply, she is a US citizen under no obligation to comply with their unlawful orders
B) they gave her conflicting order, to leave/move and to also get out of her vehicle, neither of which they had the lawful authority to demand.
Why do you think she doesn't have to comply with federal agents giving a lawful order? Where did you learn this terrible advice?
 
  • #125
Not true, as a US citizen federal agents do have authority over her and you.

Please cite your source. You can't post your opinion without backing it up here.

When you don't comply and then drive straight toward an agent you are going to get shot. It's not nice, sweet, and sugary but its real life. She has the right to protest but she doesn't have the right to obstruction of government, and she surely didn't have the right to run over someone.

She did NOT drive toward the agent. This NEVER happened. No way, no how. It just didn't happen. It's all fiction and proven on the video.
 
  • #126
Feds refuse to let the doctor help the victim.

 
  • #127
Sitting at home in a country where the US President has encouraged us to emigrate from to move there. Then wonders why people don't want to. Many, many reasons but this sort of thing is definitely on the list.
 
  • #128
Did you watch the video? They told her to leave. Watch the video with the audio turned on.
I did, video showing the front of the car is a total different perspective. I agree that there were too many people shouting orders and that caused a lot of confusion.
 
  • #129
The officer was in front while she was still backing thenn she floored it and tried to flee
Floored it to 2mph? While turning the opposite direction of all the agents?

Why was he in front of her car at all? Most actual real police officers who receive adequate training are taught never to stand in front of a vehicle or approach it straight on. That’s basic stuff taught at the beginning of the police academy. They are taught how to approach a vehicle to keep themselves and the passengers inside the car safe.
 
  • #130
She tried to drive away that is not complying
So she can get quadruple tapped to the face for trying to drive away? Are you ok with that?
 
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  • #132
I very clearly see an officer in front of the vehicle as the woman very rapidly accelerates into a turn and the camera angle changes. In the two incidents that I cited, the accelerations towards the officers were far slower.

The above aside, I don't think the woman was trying to run over the officer. Rather, I firmly believe that she would have continued to turn, then drove away once she had completed the turn (and cleared the officer).

In the end I think the shooting was "justifiable" in the technical legal sense but not truly justified ethically.

The officer should have noted that the vehicle was tightly turning away from him (while also moving towards him). At the same time, the officer cannot read minds and did not know her true intent.

All he had to do was step back, she was turning, he couldnt have missed that, he was standing right there! He may not be a mind reader but he has eyes and I am assuming spacial awareness!
 
  • #133
The officer was in front while she was still backing thenn she floored it and tried to flee

You said yourself, she backed up. She did NOT floor it until he shot her.
 
  • #134
The officer was in front while she was still backing thenn she floored it and tried to flee
The officer walked up to her vehicle. Officers cannot create a dangerous situation for themselves and then claim reasonable use of deadly force. He could have taken a step back. He chose to shoot her. Over and over.
 
  • #135
I'm not sure what you are asking. I dont think anyone is in the hospital.

I'm pretty sure you can see the women's body in that video, I may have misinterpreted what I saw.
Trump posted on Truth Social that one of the agents is in the hospital:

"Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital."

So I'm asking, which of the agents walking around is the one in the hospital??

 
  • #136
Floored it to 2mph? While turning the opposite direction of all the agents?

Why was he in front of her car at all? Most actual real police officers who receive adequate training are taught never to stand in front of a vehicle or approach it straight on. That’s basic stuff taught at the beginning of the police academy. They are taught how to approach a vehicle to keep themselves and the passengers inside the car safe.
Yes I agree the officers were a mess. She was going at an officer you cant see froom the rear video you have to see the one from in front.
 
  • #137
Why do you think she doesn't have to comply with federal agents giving a lawful order? Where did you learn this terrible advice?
Respectfully, I am not going to continue to debate this topic with you. It is clear we disagree on what constitutes a lawful order and that will not change. codes, which I have not yet been able to read for myself, have been cited upthread here: MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026 I am sure there are many more legal citations to be made that say an ICE agent may not arbitrarily pull an American citizen from their car or detain them.
 
  • #138
The officer walked up to her vehicle. Officers cannot create a dangerous situation for themselves and then claim reasonable use of deadly force. He could have taken a step back. He chose to shoot her. Over and over.
Officers did creat a bad situation from the start of this whole thing. Why did the person that was shot approach that area? It looks like they had the road blocked off. EDIT spelling mistake
 
  • #139
You said yourself, she backed up. She did NOT floor it until he shot her.
Because she was killed, she was NOT steering, unable to as she was shot in the face. She had no control over her car, ICE put any and all human beings in danger. His point was to kill her. IMO
 
  • #140
Why do you think she doesn't have to comply with federal agents giving a lawful order? Where did you learn this terrible advice?
Again, I have repeatedly cited multiple statutes showing you that ICE does not have jurisdiction to stop civilian vehicles except in two specific cases. LE has already confirmed those two cases (occupant with a warrant, reasonable suspicion of undocumented immigrant inside vehicle) did not apply to the civilian victim.
 

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