MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

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One other thing I don’t understand is why Ross didn’t order Good to shut off her engine before circling the SUV and pausing at the back and front.

I watch those silly bodycam Youtubes sometimes and if a car’s engine is running when the officer approaches that’s the first order he gives. Ross in contrast acted like a rookie cop on his first day, which IMO put himself and other officers in danger by then demanding Good exit the car. With the motor running. Isn’t he supposed to have around 10 years of military and LE experience?

JMO the shooting was about intimidating a woman who wasn’t showing proper respect. Was ICE even conducting a raid on that street or were they simply traveling to a different location?

And what experienced ICE agent chooses to stand in front of an SUV while its engine is running then demand the person to exit and then shoot multiple times into a moving vehicle? If this wasn’t such a serious event I’d laugh at Ross’ behavior.
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Exactly.

None of Ross's actions seem to have any at all to do with the enforcement of immigration laws. And he gets really angry and ultimately kills a heckler? From what I can see, he wasn't even near any suspect. Why didn't he just ignore hecklers?

So, in the USA, if you are on the same road as ICE, they can just randomly try to break into your car? Rudely shout nonsensical orders using swear words, shoot you dead? That is okay?

MOO
 
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His cell phone footage does not show this. He parks his car (blocking Renee’s Good car from being able to pull straight out). He gets out and walks around her car, videos her license plate. He has video of her face. A well trained police officer would have just left the scene at that point - he has her face and her license plate number, he can easily look up her identity on his computer. If he wants to charge her for the misdemeanor civil infraction of obstruction, he has all the info he needs for that.

But instead he continues walking around her car. He moves his phone to his non dominant hand - why would he do this? Law enforcement is taught not to walk in front of a running vehicle and is also taught the proper way to approach a vehicle, so why did he do that? I think we ALL know it can be a danger to walk in front of a running vehicle - we teach our kids about this danger from a young age. But obviously Officer Ross did not feel like he was in danger because he chooses to do this, despite knowing it can be a risk. In his video, it’s very clear he saw Renee Good turning her wheel all the way to the right, so that she can pull out and go around his vehicle. He has absolutely zero need to draw his weapon and shoot her, she was leaving the scene and he knew that. MOO.
Why? So he could shoot her. Imo. He set her up, so he could shoot her and claim self-defense. My opinion.
 
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I agree fully. I'm not someone who is always up in arms over the behavior of law enforcement, but these two things really did stand out starkly. I've even heard similar from some who genuinely have a pro-law enforcement stance.

The wife, Rebecca, making the remark about him needing to go to lunch, may have inadvertently been Ross' breaking point.
Well, shooting Rebecca would have been illegal, too, IMO, but it would make a tiny bit of sense.

MOO
 
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Well, shooting Rebecca would have been illegal, too, IMO, but it would make a tiny bit of sense.

MOO
Of course it would have been.
My point is that rather than fearing for his life, he may have just been madder than a wet hen.
 
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I agree fully. I'm not someone who is always up in arms over the behavior of law enforcement, but these two things really did stand out starkly. I've even heard similar from some who genuinely have a pro-law enforcement stance.

The wife, Rebecca, making the remark about him needing to go to lunch, may have inadvertently been Ross' breaking point.
Minneapolis and surrounding metro area are very active in following ICE movements and alerting the community about where ICE is. (Check out the subreds on Reddit for Minnapolis or Twin Cities for examples of videos ICE watchers are sharing.)

I've been assuming the women were there not only because it was their own neighborhood but because ICE was there that morning and the women were there to observe.

It is not illegal to observe ICE. It is not illegal to make noise while observing. It is not illegal to talk or use a loud voice when observing. It is not illegal to video. It is not illegal to be with others doing that. It's not illegal to be in the area where ICE is.

It's my impression that ICE was bothered by the citizen observers (especially annoyed by women's voices, imo) and the agents were trying to intimidate them by videoing them and overtly checking their license plates, yelling orders at them, approaching them. In my observation, the women kept their cool while the agents did not.

But, anyway, it's possible some people aren't grasping how active Minneapolis and surrounding suburbs are in their legal ICE-watch activities.

jmopinion
 
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There is a long and storied history in this country of citizens standing up for injustices, putting themselves in harm's way, suffering jail, injury, and death, in order to make this country and its laws better.
I remember being HORRIFIED as a teen, seeing images and film from the Civil Rights period, with law enforcement officers with vicious dogs and fire hoses, attacking people trying to end the laws that kept black people as less than citizens with full rights.

I would hope that anyone looking at those images and films from prior human rights movements would agree that the people standing up and saying, "No, I will not go to the back of the bus" and "No, I will not move from the diner counter" and "No, I will not attend a lesser school" were right and just, and that the law enforcement and government entities trying to keep people "in their place" were wrong. Same for women's rights. Same for LGBTQ+ rights. War, Climate justice, Disability rights, Education rights, children's labor laws, etc, etc, etc. "No, I will not hide my love" "No, I will not give up my right to vote" "No, I do not believe this war is just." "No, I do not believe fossil fuels should be the only form of energy."

I believe in my heart, and hope that the same will be true for immigrants' rights. That the people putting their lives on the line in order to bring attention to the injustice of the current war on immigrants will be talked about in the same way as those who fought for civil rights.

And no, I don't believe that violent criminal undocumented immigrants should have a free pass to stay in this country. I just believe that the deliberate terrifying raids and assaults on communities and other actions are not necessary. This is a smart county with incredible resources. Militarizing ICE and having them act like they are taking over a country they've just invaded is not necessary. Track down the criminals, use the surveillance tools we have, and quietly pick them off, one by one, and send them where they need to go. Stephen Miller's quota of deportations is not correlated with the number of violent criminals. Unless he equates any undocumented immigrant as a violent criminal......
History repeats itself. Moo
 
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Minneapolis and surrounding metro area are very active in following ICE movements and alerting the community about where ICE is. (Check out the subreds on Reddit for Minnapolis or Twin Cities for examples of videos ICE watchers are sharing.)

I've been assuming the women were there not only because it was their own neighborhood but because ICE was there that morning and the women were there to observe.

It is not illegal to observe ICE. It is not illegal to make noise while observing. It is not illegal to talk or use a loud voice when observing. It is not illegal to video. It is not illegal to be with others doing that. It's not illegal to be in the area where ICE is.

It's my impression that ICE was bothered by the citizen observers (especially annoyed by women's voices, imo) and the agents were trying to intimidate them by videoing them and overtly checking their license plates, yelling orders at them, approaching them. In my observation, the women kept their cool while the agents did not.

But, anyway, it's possible some people aren't grasping how active Minneapolis and surrounding suburbs are in their legal ICE-watch activities.

jmopinion
Just wanted to add this ^^speculation goes directly to why the women were in that location that morning. It a contribution to this particular situation of the shooting.

jmo
 
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Of course it would have been.
My point is that rather than fearing for his life, he may have just been madder than a wet hen.
Indeed. I agree. He was really mad and felt entitled to express it by killing.

MOO
 
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I've taken a days break from this thread as honestly I'm baffled by some people.

It doesn't matter if she was sat in her car dancing. It doesn't matter if she was being spicy to ICE who communicated with her. Hell it doesn't even matter if she had parked across the street, got out and shoved the car keys up her bum. ... In this case here, IT. DOESN'T. MATTER.
Sure some will say oh well you can't interfere with a government agency blah blah - nah you can't and you could get in bother for that. Get in bother being the important words here, getting in legal trouble is not getting blasted 3 times in the face.
I'm so tired now of justifications such as "he was scared for his safety" "she rammed him" Firstly she didn't ram him, run him over, mow him down or even hit him! The video is there from more angles than I look at myself when I'm feeling cute. He stepped out of the way of Goods vehicle which was turning away from ICE. Secondly, he places HIMSELF in front of her car (after having already passed her apparent block in his vehicle) now does a traumatised and terrified man place himself in front of a vehicle with an (in ICE and the governments opinion) "agitator"?! No they don't. He placed himself there. Thirdly, self defense?! Give me a break and then some... IF he had have fired the one shot which went through the windscreen after he placed HIMSELF in front of the vehicle, then maybeeeeee he could somehow blag it, but he didn't, he fired off that shot and then made the conscious decision to step CLOSER to the vehicle, y'know the one that's such a danger and the one that he's so in fear of, so he was closer to the open drivers window and popped off another 2 rounds point blank into her face execution style. That's where self defence by legal definition goes see ya and premeditation comes out to play. Ugh I just can't even. Pointless even trying to debate and relate to some people though as they're so deep into their political views that even their own eyes aren't reliable witnesses 😞


The thing is, If this case was to get inside of a court room with a jury and they showed all angles of the footage, the ice agent would be scoffing down ramen for the next 10/20, that's why the white house and other government cronies have pulled rank on the relevant people, kicking out the state (which we all know the current government can't stand because they're tHe w0kE OtHeR SiDe) and getting the feds to "investigate" this murder so that it gets nowhere near a court house. They're also doing their damnedest to control the narrative by any means necessary, including slandering the victim all over the place (I'm sure some will have seen the bullpoo verified fake rumours) justttttt incase the feds decide to step out of line and put a criminal case on - to attempt to brainwash potential jurors.

America is so screwed , even more than I could have imagined and by proxy so is the western world as so many countries have ties with the states.

I hate it all.

MOO

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Of course it would have been.
My point is that rather than fearing for his life, he may have just been madder than a wet hen.
He absolutely was mad. Rebecca was standing right next to him at the rear of the car, filming him and being snarky (not illegal) while he filmed as well. Things seemed to go south with him when she suggested that he go to lunch and called him "big boy". That's when he transfers his phone into his left hand and goes around to the front left of the vehicle, unholsters his gun with his right hand, and fires away. He never falls, never drops the phone to the ground.
And the only words I heard him say the entire time were "f***ing b**ch".
He was very angry.
IMO.
 
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Minneapolis and surrounding metro area are very active in following ICE movements and alerting the community about where ICE is. (Check out the subreds on Reddit for Minnapolis or Twin Cities for examples of videos ICE watchers are sharing.)

I've been assuming the women were there not only because it was their own neighborhood but because ICE was there that morning and the women were there to observe.

It is not illegal to observe ICE. It is not illegal to make noise while observing. It is not illegal to talk or use a loud voice when observing. It is not illegal to video. It is not illegal to be with others doing that. It's not illegal to be in the area where ICE is.

It's my impression that ICE was bothered by the citizen observers (especially annoyed by women's voices, imo) and the agents were trying to intimidate them by videoing them and overtly checking their license plates, yelling orders at them, approaching them. In my observation, the women kept their cool while the agents did not.

But, anyway, it's possible some people aren't grasping how active Minneapolis and surrounding suburbs are in their legal ICE-watch activities.

jmopinion
Well, ICE certainly did not earn any trust killing a mother who told him she is not mad at him as she was attempting to drive away. If they don't want to be watched, maybe they should try to professionally do their jobs? Avoid bullying civilians?

Just a thought.

Just because one is angry about others watching them work in public does not give them license to kill. Or detain. Or try to fight into a car. But if you don't like being watched, how about earning trust so civilians don't feel the need to watch?

MOO
 
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The worst idea ever.
Like pouring gasoline on a five alarm fire.
Tensions are beyond high.
IMO
IMO, that’s why they are deploying more ICE agents there - to further fan the flames and escalate the situation in Minnesota. Minnesota does not have a proportionately higher number of illegal immigrants than any other state. So why there, if ICE’s whole purpose is to find and deport illegal immigrants?
 
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Demonstrators continue protests Monday in Minneapolis amid news that Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is sends hundreds of more federal agents to the Twin Cities five days after an ICE officer killed Renee Good.
Minneapolis Anti-ICE protests continue 5 days after Renee Good killing
I weep for my country.

Does Kristy Noem think that Minneapolis is going to just give up the right to be on a suburban street while ICE is there?

This is the USA, a republic, not a fascist state.

MOO
 
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Yes, I found the witness statements. What I am looking for is video that corroborates a specific part of the account.

In CC's description, she says that ICE gave orders to leave while, at the same time, another ICE agent said “get out of the car.”

I can clearly hear “get out of the car” on the first video of the incident and again on JR’s video, and that phrase has been widely transcribed in mainstream media coverage.

What I am trying to corroborate is the other order. CC does not quote it directly, does not identify which agent said it, and indicates that it was given simultaneously.

Heller says it was "get out of here".

I have been looking for a video where that additional order can be heard or otherwise verified. If anyone has one, I would appreciate seeing it.

IMO

Yeah i don't hear it in any of the videos at all. I'm sure no one will share a video of that because i also asked for video or audio of them telling her to leave or get "out of here" several pages back on the thread and "still waiting" for it to be shared. I don't think it happened but that's MOO.

Of course it doesn't matter that that isn't heard in any of the videos because "witnesses said" it happened and it fits the overwhelming sentiment in this forum that ICE agents are literally gestapo nazi racists who kill anyone who gets in their way.
 
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IMO, that’s why they are deploying more ICE agents there - to further fan the flames and escalate the situation in Minnesota. Minnesota does not have a proportionately higher number of illegal immigrants than any other state. So why there, if ICE’s whole purpose is to find and deport illegal immigrants?
Trying to get under the governor's and mayor's skin would be my guess.
IMO.
 
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He absolutely was mad. Rebecca was standing right next to him at the rear of the car, filming him and being snarky (not illegal) while he filmed as well. Things seemed to go south with him when she suggested that he go to lunch and called him "big boy". That's when he transfers his phone into his left hand and goes around to the front left of the vehicle, unholsters his gun with his right hand, and fires away. He never falls, never drops the phone to the ground.
And the only words I heard him say the entire time were "f***ing b**ch".
He was very angry.
IMO.
This in and of itself should be evidence against his fearing for his life, at which point he would have been justified in using self defense.
 
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