Found Deceased MO - Clauddinnea 'Dee Dee' Blancharde, 48, Springfield, 10 June 2015 - #2 *Arrests*

[bluesneakers]

Aspergers played a part in that IMO.
I feel worse for him than Gypsy!
But they both are dangerous and are where they both belong!

Asperger’s and Violence

Indeed, psychologists and psychiatrists agree that people with autism or Asperger’s are not more likely to commit violent crimes than members of the general population, but they say in very rare cases, it can happen.

In those isolated instances, forensic psychiatrists tell WebMD, a diagnosis of Asperger’s or autism may help explain some aspects of seemingly unfathomable acts.

“I think it does matter. I think that’s probably part of making sense of this horrible thing that happened. I think that’s part of the equation,” says Marc Hillbrand, PhD, a clinical psychologist at Yale University in New Haven, Conn.

Hillbrand has studied the psychology of mass shootings, but he had no direct knowledge of Adam Lanza’s medical history.

“What’s so unusual about this individual, if indeed he has Asperger’s, is the use of weapons. There are a few cases of people with high-functioning autism who have committed violent crimes using weapons, but it’s a very small number of people,” he says.

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20121218/aspergers-violence

 

[Eileen730]

Asperger’s and Violence



http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20121218/aspergers-violence

Im not talking about Violence!

he found a person that he would do anything for... she cared about him...they are alike... Aspergers kids don't get along with everyone hardly anyone at all so for him to find someone he can relate too if he felt this is what she needed or what would help her he would do it ...not ever thinking of the consequences.

JMO

 

[KristiDFW]

I have been trying to keep up with this case, but life has been making it hard for me to do so. This whole thing is all kinda cray, IMO. But I just wanted to add that Sword and Scales (which I Love) latest podcast is about this case.
IMO, even though Gypsy did not choose the way she grew up, it was her choice to do what she did. In the interviews from the podcast I mentioned, the can driver and a person at the bus station stated she was the one who handled the money and both of them had a story. And neither one of them looked shakened or nervous as they left town.
I'm curious as to what we will see at both trials concerning any emails or texts between the two of them. Also curious to see which one will turn against the other first.

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[Aynia]

This is a case that interests.me much but that I want to know more about, like proof, documents, their internet chats... I still feel so bad looking at Gypsy's pictures in disguise pretending to be sick. It's crazy!

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[dillysmom11]

This is an untrue assessment of Asp. (In reference to Eileen's statement that Aspies hardly get along with anyone).

 

[psyquestor]

This is an untrue assessment of Asp. (In reference to Eileen's statement that Aspies hardly get along with anyone).

I agree that this is a broad generalization. My oldest daughter was diagnosed as having pervasive development disorder (NOS) ((Asperger's syndrome)). She went on to become the captain of both her volleyball and cheer teams and was the valedictorian of her class. Certain social difficulties were easily glossed over by either herself or her peers; it was known she could be quirky; attributed to her high IQ. However as she moved off to University (full scholarship with allowance) she became more withdrawn and depressed. She dropped out at the beginning of her second term. (later going back and even attempting grad school). The change in social structure was just too much for her and she returned home.

What I'm getting at is even with the same Aspie, different settings and social construct can drastically change how the person copes. There are many nuances that are at play here and generalizations don't help.

(two cents for the kitty).

 

[Eileen730]

This is an untrue assessment of Asp. (In reference to Eileen's statement that Aspies hardly get along with anyone).

They are not social butterflies!
Yes they find friends its not an easy thing.
Its easier for an aspie to talk via texting or Internet.

They do not converse easily face to face.

They are intelligent artistic compassionate ppl .

Life is hard for an adult Aspie. Many live home with parents.
Very socially awkward!

 

[human]

I think Bill Gates feels he is on the spectrum

 

[bluesneakers]

I agree that this is a broad generalization. My oldest daughter was diagnosed as having pervasive development disorder (NOS) ((Asperger's syndrome)). She went on to become the captain of both her volleyball and cheer teams and was the valedictorian of her class. Certain social difficulties were easily glossed over by either herself or her peers; it was known she could be quirky; attributed to her high IQ. However as she moved off to University (full scholarship with allowance) she became more withdrawn and depressed. She dropped out at the beginning of her second term. (later going back and even attempting grad school). The change in social structure was just too much for her and she returned home.

What I'm getting at is even with the same Aspie, different settings and social construct can drastically change how the person copes. There are many nuances that are at play here and generalizations don't help.

(two cents for the kitty).

I'm sorry she's having such a tough time. Big changes can hard on anyone, moreso on someone who is sensitive and/or vulnerable. By sensitive I mean more affected by things, not necessarily more emotional. I hope she's getting back to herself.

My daughter's boyfriend has Asperger's and communication can sometimes be an issue but her biggest complaint is his social circle is large and active. I know it's only one person, yes, but he's the opposite of someone who can't get along with others.

Stigma hurts everyone.

 

[bluesneakers]

Im not talking about Violence!

he found a person that he would do anything for... she cared about him...they are alike... Aspergers kids don't get along with everyone hardly anyone at all so for him to find someone he can relate too if he felt this is what she needed or what would help her he would do it ...not ever thinking of the consequences.

JMO

Saying his Asperger's had something to do with it when the "it" is murder implies Asperger's had something to do with a violent act. But there's nothing to support making that jump.

 

[kimlynn]

Saying his Asperger's had something to do with it when the "it" is murder implies Asperger's had something to do with a violent act. But there's nothing to support making that jump.

Nothing to support that Gypsy acted due to yrs of abuse,but almost the entire postings in this thread say that must be the case.
And woe to anyone that questions that as her motivation. IMO

 

[jjenny]

Nothing to support that Gypsy acted due to yrs of abuse,but almost the entire postings in this thread say that must be the case.
And woe to anyone that questions that as her motivation. IMO

Nothing to support that Gypsy acted due to years of abuse? I beg to differ. I think there is plenty.

 

[psyquestor]

Nothing to support that Gypsy acted due to years of abuse? I beg to differ. I think there is plenty.

<modsnip> Popped in to say I agree with your post. I see plenty of evidence of abuse, neglect and potentially grave harm done to Gypsy. Whether it was the mitigating factor in her murdering Dee Dee? That is yet to be seen. (though to the untrained eye, it certainly appears that way).

Hope you had an excellent weekend jjenny.

 

[KristiDFW]

Never said that she was abused. Misused, maybe and most definitely used. But not all abused kids kill. And not all kids that were raised right are all good.
Just saying, she had a bad life. Something that most of us will never be able to wrap our head around. But, she plotted and planned. With no coercion She may have not known how to use people and play upon their pity. But IMO she learned it.


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[jjenny]

Never said that she was abused. Misused, maybe and most definitely used. But not all abused kids kill. And not all kids that were raised right are all good.
Just saying, she had a bad life. Something that most of us will never be able to wrap our head around. But, she plotted and planned. With no coercion She may have not known how to use people and play upon their pity. But IMO she learned it.


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She was taught it from a very young age. There was no way she was going to turn out right with the kind of upbringing she had. Which is why I don't feel any sympathy for the mother. In my view, Dee Dee is responsible for her own demise, for what she was doing to her daughter.

 

[blefuscu]

How was Gypsy being told every day of her young life that she had all these illnesses and disabilities be considered any different to a child being told they would be better off dead and you are scum? Both are abuse. From probably as long as she can remember her mom has lied to her. She's insisted that Gypsy play the role of ill child and it would be easy once believed and benefits start rolling in. Mom just had to guilt trip Gypsey and say "you want us to lose this house/car/money!" Which young teenaged girl wants that responsibility on her shoulders. There is no way mom hasn't damaged Gypsy either mentally, emotionally, physically. I'm not saying by any means that what she has done is ok, definitely not. But I can see huge mitigation for her actions. She is as much a victim of abuse as any child is.

I've been on Tegretol too for mental health. I had much higher does than an epileptic would. It makes you feel awful. Like a zombie and coming off it is awful. It has to be done in stages. If I found out I had been on these tablets for years for no good reason and lived with the awful side effects I would be damned mad too.

 

[Tealgrove]

IMO IMO

I am shocked to see how we are lining up on each side of this case. I am by nature a very black and white, right or wrong kind of person.

To me, this case is so grey that I am unable to to convince myself which "side" to be on. So this is odd for me. I am extremely opinionated and form my opinions very quickly. But for me and this case I'm not sure where to go with it.

I've said this before, and I'm going to say it again. What has happened in 2015 really began when Gypsy was just a child. I will admit that her actions in 2015 are not good and murder is murder (I can go right and wrong here very easily) and it was WRONG and btw, Gypsy knows it is wrong too.

But abuse takes all kinds of shapes and forms and the fallout from years of it plays out in many different ways. How can we not believe that Gypsy was abused as a child and into her formative years?

I think what we have here is an extremely complex psychological study.

Before we can condemn Gypsy we have to find out WHAT HER MOTHER, DOCTORS, ETC., DID TO HER. What form of abuse did she endure? Because whether we want to believe it or not, Gypsy was a victim of abuse. We are only guessing at this point so until we really know how can we sit here and pass judgement and be so adamant about what Gypsy has done, not done, planned, etc.

If there was ever case that called for serious thought, reflection and in-depth consideration, this is the case.

It's weird, crazy, unbelievable etc. But at the end of the day, a woman is dead, her daughter is in jail and ruined for life as is the life of Gypsy's boyfriend.

To me it's an absolutely horrible tragedy. There are no sides take. The whole thing is just plain sad.

 

[kimlynn]

I don't think anyone is questioning that there was abuse in the way that GB grew up,Tealgrove. Some of us wonder at the extent (while out of the public view) and if it was what motivated her to act.
What I find unfortunate,and I'm just going to *say* it is the assumptions (lacks empathy,not compassionate,lacks understanding of abuse,and pot stirring) that are coming the way of posters that are simply expressing opinions.
Bottom line,as you posted, we don't really know enough about this case to say one way or the other how or why this happened.
I was actually happy to see a discussion started about the merits of Aspergers for a change as we have spent so little time on Godejohn. IMO

 

[CjCw1979]

First time responding to this thread but longtime reader....

A few questions/thoughts....

I'm still unsure of how I feel after reading every single thread about DD/GB...

For those that think she should be set free.... Obviously she has no education how will she support herself? In some way or another she has learned the art of manipulation from DD who is to say she will not carry on manipulating others as I'm sure plenty feel bad for her for what she has been through rightfully so but at what point can it not be used as an excuse and she be held accountable as an adult? MOO she needs mental help extensively.

If she was sheltered and not allowed to do anything where would the dark sexual side come from? She obviously had plenty of time on the Internet and chatted frequently with strangers and had friends. How do we know for sure DD sheltered her so much. Maybe DD let her have her own time in return for GB keeping the ruse up? I will let you do this if you keep doing that mentality.....

Last, for those who think it is all DD's fault she was murdered? What do we really know about her? What was her childhood like? Was these learned traits from her mother that she carried on to her daughter? What was their relationship like in that house when it was just them?

 

[pepelepolecat]

First time responding to this thread but longtime reader....

A few questions/thoughts....

I'm still unsure of how I feel after reading every single thread about DD/GB...

For those that think she should be set free.... Obviously she has no education how will she support herself? In some way or another she has learned the art of manipulation from DD who is to say she will not carry on manipulating others as I'm sure plenty feel bad for her for what she has been through rightfully so but at what point can it not be used as an excuse and she be held accountable as an adult? MOO she needs mental help extensively.

If she was sheltered and not allowed to do anything where would the dark sexual side come from? She obviously had plenty of time on the Internet and chatted frequently with strangers and had friends. How do we know for sure DD sheltered her so much. Maybe DD let her have her own time in return for GB keeping the ruse up? I will let you do this if you keep doing that mentality.....

Last, for those who think it is all DD's fault she was murdered? What do we really know about her? What was her childhood like? Was these learned traits from her mother that she carried on to her daughter? What was their relationship like in that house when it was just them?

bbm ... A kid who is determined to do something will almost certainly find a way to do it. Obviously she had access to the Internet -- and I'd assume at least some of it was with her mom's permission. But I'm not sure that she had much freedom at all irl.

The dark sexual side reminded me of a conversation I had elsewhere this past week. has become increasingly violent and abusive over time. If that's where and how she learned about sex/sexuality, it could have had a profound effect on her. When something is portrayed as normal and common to a girl (or boy, for that matter) going through puberty, that's what she's going to strive for in an effort to be normal. Even non-sheltered teen girls are doing things today that were rarely even mentioned much less done just 20 years ago.