MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #22

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  • #241
If there are allegations, though, it's on them to look into it though right? You have no idea if there is proof of bad acts if you never look.

Does that apply to any prior crimes, charges, interactions with police Michael may've had?
 
  • #242
That's funny. But you're dad should have been hosting Christmas parties or something for them. After all, if they didn't arrest anyone, he wouldn't have had a job. Or at least a job doing criminal defense work. lol

Actually if it wasn't for the criminals he would be out of work. Not LE. So I guess the party should have been for them instead.

MOO
 
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Does that apply to any prior crimes, charges, interactions with police Michael may've had?

not as a juvie -- that's MO law

we already know of one crime committed on 9 Aug & one interaction with LE on 9 Aug that some choose not to take into account & still believe ODW should be sitting in jail without Due Process -- that is so scary to me
 
  • #245
In the espn show they never said he used cuss words or racial epithets or used any physical force. Just said he was 'aggressive.' Who wouldnt be?

IIRC DJ used "aggressive" too. OW spoke to them "aggressively" and opened his cruiser door "aggressively". Maybe many blacks interpret any "order" from police as hostile and a sign of disrespect, while most whites in a similar situation don't see that at all.
 
  • #246
And apparently the authorities are supposed to be mind readers, and address incidents that are never reported.

Ummm who said that too?

All I said was they need to be looked into. If there's nothing to them, great. If there is, great.
 
  • #247
Whoa. Who said that?

I'm talking about the story of the father and son run-in with OW. CMac2 brought it up. I'm just curious where the proof is since there is no complaint filed by the father or son.
 
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Report about what? If he thinks he did not run the stop sign then you tell it to the judge. There is nothing to report to the FPD over whether he did or didnt run it.

If it is about the father, what is the complaint? The father admits he left his car, and was angry because neither he nor son believed he ran the stop sign. So use your imagination. How did that whole thing go down? The officer is running the license and another car comes around the corner and irate father comes out, demanding to know why his son is being pulled over. Does not matter if you are black, white or green, that is not going to fly. ANY FATHER that came out of his car questioning the stop, would be cuffed and sitting in the patrol car while things got sorted out. I don't see any basis for complaint.
In the espn show they never said he used cuss words or racial epithets or used any physical force. Just said he was 'aggressive.' Who wouldnt be?

Kinda not the point. On this occasion it is from the perspective of the kid and his dad. If they believe they were harassed in any way, is there any reason why they wouldn't have filed a report. I was suggesting that had they been listening to CMac, they might have heard a reason a report would not be filed. Whether there is merit to the complaint/report or not is irrelevant to that discussion.
 
  • #251
Kinda not the point. On this occasion it is from the perspective of the kid and his dad. If they believe they were harassed in any way, is there any reason why they wouldn't have filed a report. I was suggesting that had they been listening to CMac, they might have heard a reason a report would not be filed. Whether there is merit to the complaint/report or not is irrelevant to that discussion.

Please tell us why there would be no report.
 
  • #252
It was broadcast on a show. I imagine it has been looked into by now.

That's all I'm saying. Not sure why others are in a huff about it. Well, you said you imagine it has been looked into and I said I hope it's looked into or needs to be.
 
  • #253
Of course LE should follow up IF there are complaints of police harassment filed by a citizen. But OW didn't have any complaints.

So only if there was a formal written complaint can it be considered a bad act? No bad acts go unreported?
 
  • #254
Please tell us why there would be no report.

Because A it never happened
Or B it was real no big deal.

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  • #255
That's all I'm saying. Not sure why others are in a huff about it. Well, you said you imagine it has been looked into and I said I hope it's looked into or needs to be.

I don't think anyone is in a "huff". I know I'm trying to follow why you think this "incident" should be looked into if there was no complaint filed against OW.
 
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Does that apply to any prior crimes, charges, interactions with police Michael may've had?

On a personal level, I'm fine with that as well. If he had ever assaulted a cop before I've absolutely said that is relevant. I don't care if he did it when he was 15 or 18. I don't think in either case they are determinative of the final answer, but yes, I think it's relevant. Do I think there is any relevance to possession charges or smoking weed or skipping school? Nope, no more relevant than if OW smoked weed or skipped school or had a possession charge.
 
  • #259
Actually if it wasn't for the criminals he would be out of work. Not LE. So I guess the party should have been for them instead.

MOO

Well, maybe he should have thrown a party and invited them both. I'm going and getting a bottle of whiskey. And I don't drink.
 
  • #260
not as a juvie -- that's MO law

we already know of one crime committed on 9 Aug & one interaction with LE on 9 Aug that some choose not to take into account & still believe ODW should be sitting in jail without Due Process -- that is so scary to me

Actually, he could be sitting in jail and still have his due process rights honored. People get arrested all the time and sit in jail before they're convicted. Personally, I don't see the sense in doing so in this case with the GJ going already. If I thought OW might flee, it would be a different story.
 
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