Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Friday Fan]

I remember watching those bbq competitions on tv, and a lot of those competitors had gloves that reminded me of the masked porch man.
Seems they’re nitrile with cotton liners, for the bbq cooks.

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I don’t have black ones, but we always have a big box of disposable latex or nitrile gloves at my house. We use them for all kinds of uses (handling meats, while cleaning, etc). It may be common to have in many homes. jmo

Someone earlier said they look like butyl gloves, not nitrile

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Both Nancy's and Annie's place should be saturated with sniffer dogs.

I am not seeing this

Now a pair of gloves has been found

This is when they need the sniffer dogs to go right through there

 

[CookRice]

I saw this site when Hannah Kobayashi went missing, and I posted once about her case. I'm not a regular to this site, so please excuse any potential violations of the written and unwritten rules.

But I wanted to say something, because I'm really bothered by the Adult Protective Services (APS) business card on Nancy Guthrie's front door. I am a physician and have worked in an affiliated relationship with APS in my state. APS generally does not get involved with an older adult unless an APS report is filed. This can come from anyone: friends, family, medical providers, financial representatives, etc. But it is usually filed because someone is worried that an older adult is suffering from abuse. There are five primary types of abuse: neglect, self-neglect, verbal abuse, physical abuse, and financial abuse. It does not seem like Nancy Guthrie was suffering from self-neglect: she doesn't have markers of self-neglect, like malnutrition, poor hygiene, or hoarding behaviors. So that likely means that someone suspected neglect, verbal abuse, physical abuse, and/or financial abuse. These are all perpetrated on an older adult, by someone else -- so someone may have suspected that Nancy Guthrie was being abused by someone else. APS can turn this information over to law enforcement -- they usually work closely with law enforcement.

Is this why law enforcement has focused so heavily on on Nancy Guthrie's family, especially her family that lives in Tucson?

One more thing: I've seen patients bleed and then try to leave the ER or hospital against medical advice. Bleeding, while walking or being transported, leaves a linear bloodstain. It's one blood drop, then another, and then a line of blood drops. Like leaving a trail of breadcrumbs. That's not the blood trail around Nancy Guthrie's front entrance.

 

[Tortoise]

- The video suggests that he initially parked to the right side of the house in the main driveway by the garage since he came around from there to the front door.
- She went out the front door. We can infer this because her blood trail, via video/pictures (and I think LE stated this too), went to the end of the front sidewalk to the circle driveway.
- He didn't likely go in the front door from the start. We can infer this because he purportedly, and as the media pictures suggest, disabled/destroyed the flood light in the back of the house at the back door. He allegedly referred to this in a ransom demand/communication.

I think he had already done what he was there to do by the time he approached the front door (now unlocked) and he removed the camera so that he could get her to the van/vehicle, now in the front of the house, in the shortest distance and with the cover of front brush - and without video of her removal or his vehicle. I think this was planned and she was intentionally kidnapped because:

- He sent a ransom demand.
- He specifically placed things and/or disturbed the scene with the intention of proving he intended to do it.

JMO.

This was the video of the blood on the path. It is just past the crack that goes across the path, which from enlarging the aerial view attached is next to the stepping stones, rather than the steps down to the driveway.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021330343056507029

image from SWAT and bomb squads mobilize in Arizona as search for Nancy Guthrie case intensifies

 

[Laura Avery]

Both Nancy's and Annie's place should be saturated with sniffer dogs.

I am not seeing this

Now a pair of gloves has been found

This is when they need the sniffer dogs to go right through there

A pair of Gloves? I thought it was one discared not on the scene?

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

Has there been a second video that I’ve missed? Sorry it is so hard to keep up from over the pond

 

[FromGermany1]

I saw this site when Hannah Kobayashi went missing, and I posted once about her case. I'm not a regular to this site, so please excuse any potential violations of the written and unwritten rules.

But I wanted to say something, because I'm really bothered by the Adult Protective Services (APS) business card on Nancy Guthrie's front door. I am a physician and have worked in an affiliated relationship with APS in my state. APS generally does not get involved with an older adult unless an APS report is filed. This can come from anyone: friends, family, medical providers, financial representatives, etc. But it is usually filed because someone is worried that an older adult is suffering from abuse. There are five primary types of abuse: neglect, self-neglect, verbal abuse, physical abuse, and financial abuse. It does not seem like Nancy Guthrie was suffering from self-neglect: she doesn't have markers of self-neglect, like malnutrition, poor hygiene, or hoarding behaviors. So that likely means that someone suspected neglect, verbal abuse, physical abuse, and/or financial abuse. These are all perpetrated on an older adult, by someone else -- so someone may have suspected that Nancy Guthrie was being abused by someone else. APS can turn this information over to law enforcement -- they usually work closely with law enforcement.

Is this why law enforcement has focused so heavily on on Nancy Guthrie's family, especially her family that lives in Tucson?

One more thing: I've seen patients bleed and then try to leave the ER or hospital against medical advice. Bleeding, while walking or being transported, leaves a linear bloodstain. It's one blood drop, then another, and then a line of blood drops. Like leaving a trail of breadcrumbs. That's not the blood trail around Nancy Guthrie's front entrance.

I can't understand, why a member of the APS would place a card at the front door, when "the possible abuser" would be able to see and read it. Wouldn't it be a warning to the person, who is suspect to abuse NG in any form?

 

[Tortoise]

He's really lit up in this image. In fact the whole porch seems to be lit up, and there's light shining on the door handles.

This one is darker. Does the Nest camera shed all that light?

images from

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285842044494279

 

[Strangeworld]

I saw this site when Hannah Kobayashi went missing, and I posted once about her case. I'm not a regular to this site, so please excuse any potential violations of the written and unwritten rules.

But I wanted to say something, because I'm really bothered by the Adult Protective Services (APS) business card on Nancy Guthrie's front door. I am a physician and have worked in an affiliated relationship with APS in my state. APS generally does not get involved with an older adult unless an APS report is filed. This can come from anyone: friends, family, medical providers, financial representatives, etc. But it is usually filed because someone is worried that an older adult is suffering from abuse. There are five primary types of abuse: neglect, self-neglect, verbal abuse, physical abuse, and financial abuse. It does not seem like Nancy Guthrie was suffering from self-neglect: she doesn't have markers of self-neglect, like malnutrition, poor hygiene, or hoarding behaviors. So that likely means that someone suspected neglect, verbal abuse, physical abuse, and/or financial abuse. These are all perpetrated on an older adult, by someone else -- so someone may have suspected that Nancy Guthrie was being abused by someone else. APS can turn this information over to law enforcement -- they usually work closely with law enforcement.

Is this why law enforcement has focused so heavily on on Nancy Guthrie's family, especially her family that lives in Tucson?

One more thing: I've seen patients bleed and then try to leave the ER or hospital against medical advice. Bleeding, while walking or being transported, leaves a linear bloodstain. It's one blood drop, then another, and then a line of blood drops. Like leaving a trail of breadcrumbs. That's not the blood trail around Nancy Guthrie's front entrance.

Welcome CookRice!

Thank you for these insights. I have a question, I had pondered whether the card was left proactively because Nancy had gone missing. As a support for family and/or Nancy because it wasn't known what had happened to her.

Based on what you have said in your post, is this unlikely to be the case? That for the card to have been left, there needed to have been a report made, so a reactive step based on some sort of report from Nancy or another party?

 

[Kemug]

Safe or not, I wouldn't be surprised if some of Nancy's neighbours are thinking about moving away from the area.

 

[tkcrockett]

Interesting theory. If his role was 'cleanup' that might explain the porch perp's lackadaisical style, his extreme layering to avoid DNA transfer, and a stuffed backpack, which could contain tools of his trade such as a sack or tarp.

If this theory has any legs, it could imply an accomplice inside already, having entered another way. And as an OP opined re: odd sized tire tracks on the driveway, perhaps NG was taken out in a trash can that the 'cleanup' guy brought.

It would also imply, if at all close to the truth, that NG's disappearance and the ransom circus may be separate crimes.

I just have to wonder if NG walked into a home invasion when she returned from dinner on 1/31. Either the perps were already inside or they were waiting for her to return. And sadly, perhaps she was murdered to eliminate a witness. Unless the perp(s)'s intent was to kill her.

Total speculation and my own opinion. Since we're on Day 12, it just makes me wonder if this was not an abduction.

Wow. Interesting speculation. Thanks for making me think

 

[rebel123]

If it hasn't rained, the 'glove' (if relevant) might have finger prints on it.

 

[SUNchips]

If it hasn't rained, the 'glove' (if relevant) might have finger prints on it.

It hasn’t rained but it is supposed to in a couple days.

Also I find it very interesting that local Tucson news channel KVOA is saying, “a pair of black gloves were located. The gloves have been submitted for DNA analysis”. Are they just misinformed, or were two gloves actually found?

Recovered gloves, wanted Ring doorbell footage highlight Guthrie case latest

TUCSON, Ariz. (KVOA) - In a possibly significant development in the search for 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie, investigators have recovered a pair of black gloves as law enforcement expands its search

www.kvoa.com

 

[Voidz]

IMO She didn’t make it home, and the person in the video was staging/ distraction. The blood is proven to be Nancy, but it’s transfer.

Why did it take so long to find the glove?

Because of all the noise and distraction.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

A pair of Gloves? I thought it was one discared not on the scene?

A couple hours later, reports surfaced that a second black glove has been found. Fox News reported that a "set" of gloves was being processed.

 

[Taffy550]

I can't understand, why a member of the APS would place a card at the front door, when "the possible abuser" would be able to see and read it. Wouldn't it be a warning to the person, who is suspect to abuse NG in any form?

Yes, unless this was the reason she was disappeared. Financial or physical abuse.

 

[Boxer]

This is my first post regarding this incredibly unusual case. I have noticed that the black gloves that have been discussed are used by mechanics, as well as other people. I just realized that the person in the video on Ms. Guthrie's front porch also had a "mouth" flashlight. I think mechanics also use those frequently. It may be nothing, but thought I would share. It may be a coincidence that two of the objects are used by that particular profession.

Harbor Freight

 

[Boxer]

She didn’t make it home, and the person in the video was staging/ distraction. The blood is proven to be Nancy, but it’s transfer.

Why did it take so long to find the glove?

Because of all the noise and distraction.

Pretty elaborate to have an aspiration of blood on the walk though.

 

[Kemug]

Can you get fingerprints off the inside of gloves?

 

[cady]

Presumably, APS has been questioned to see IF there was a report, WHEN, and what did it say, WHO made the report, or is it unknown who left it there. Very strange. JMO