Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[avalonisland]

The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?

Their child was also in the car I think and I think they were working a door dash delivery job. Lots of LE cars marked and unmarked were following them. C was honorable to get out of car, imo. He was protecting his loved ones.

 

[desertgirl11]

Would it be logical to think that the “perp” would have silenced NG? She could’ve screamed on that doorway or anywhere in the open. Was she ‘silenced’ somehow? *awful I know…

 

[avalonisland]

Not so much the latest developments, but until the information about the destruction of the cameras, I was leaning towards this being a medical event and she just hadn't been found yet.

I'm still not convinced the kidnapper and the ransom person are the same, but I'm not seeing everything they're seeing. We're only getting a fraction of a fraction of the picture.

MOO

I just think the man doing the bizarre nest removal and smashing floodlights could have done whatever he needed to do that night without removing NG from house. Once an elderly woman is in bed, especially one who was probably exhausted from late night dinner and family games and who was in chronic pain and had issues walking, it would be hard to get them out of bed to even check on noise. There's so much info about what went on inside house and at Tucson family dinner and game night that is not being released to public.

 

[LooksSusToMe]

I wonder if this is a home invasion that was mistaken house. Like thefragile7393 said, they do happen, but it usually has to do with drugs.

My initial reaction was home invasion gone wrong when this first happened. Perhaps the perp(s) had items in the backpack to tie up the homeowner(s) while he ransacked.

Perhaps NG fought back/told him who she was and promised to get him more $? So then he took her in hopes of a bigger payday?

 

[avalonisland]

Poor guy just got blamed for the biggest public crime in the entire United States of America for nothing. I'm done until whoever did this (I think it was obvious from the start) is arrested and charged and/or NG is found. Ty for your attention regarding this matter.

Poor guy indeed who he along with family members are without their cellphones. What's scary is that he has features of the scary guy in video at NG house and it was not this poor guy. I hope LE does better, as this guys name is now all over internet and he is innocent.

 

[tbgo]

The "talking heads" on tv are driving me crazy. They really don't know anything about this crime, and are making sweeping generalizations. Specifically, about "ageism". And that an older woman should not be living alone.

No one brought issues of age up when the college kids in Moscow, ID were murdered.

They’re running out of material. I’m waiting for one of the cable news shows to start interviewing the psychics and tarot card readers making videos on YouTube about this case - yes, they do exist.

 

[slowpoke]

This. I posted earlier that the gloves resembled ones that Tattoo artists use, they look like black nitrile gloves being worn over thicker gloves, IMO. Mechanics also use them frequently. Just doing a little research, they are not found in that color in many places outside of Home Depot, Menards, or ordering them online. It just seems to me that unless they were seeking those specific gloves out, it maybe something that they had a personal supply of already due to a line of work they are in.

I remember watching those bbq competitions on tv, and a lot of those competitors had gloves that reminded me of the masked porch man.
Seems they’re nitrile with cotton liners, for the bbq cooks.

Like this:

(Link)

I don’t have black ones, but we always have a big box of disposable latex or nitrile gloves at my house. We use them for all kinds of uses (handling meats, while cleaning, etc). It may be common to have in many homes. jmo

 

[Sillybilly]

It goes live at 11am eastern time on Sundays but perhaps NG and friends watch on youtube a different time when they gather Sunday mornings.

My understanding is that Nancy was associated with St. Andrew's Presbyterian in the Tucson area.

What does this church in New York have to do with Nancy?

 

[avalonisland]

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If NG had other incident of someone at her door scarying her, I wonder why her security system was so minor. Like why the lack of front doorbell video subscription or maybe it ended shortly before latest crime. And, why the only around 2 minute drop off by family at 9:48pm or so 1/31/26. Surely, family members would drop her off and check entire house and doors to make sure NG would be safe, comfortable, and secure for the night if there were other scary encounters.

 

[avalonisland]

I remember watching those bbq competitions on tv, and a lot of those competitors had gloves that reminded me of the masked porch man.
Seems they’re nitrile with cotton liners, for the bbq cooks.

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I don’t have black ones, but we always have a big box of disposable latex or nitrile gloves at my house. We use them for all kinds of uses (handling meats, while cleaning, etc). It may be common to have in many homes. jmo

Would make sense to wear heat resistant gloves since the scary guy was smashing lights and stealing security cameras

 

[RedHaus]

She was returned home; her blood was deposited at the front door and down the sidewalk AFTER the doorbell cam guy was there in the wee hours of the morning.

MOO the small area of blood droplets close together looks like she was stationary for a moment

So I've pondering those blood spots and drops. And I question if they are related to NG's disappearance - unless LE was able to put a date and time stamp on them.

My mother, who died from heart failure, was on an anti-coagulent because of a-Fib and a history of pulmonary embolism for several years before she passed at 88.

That caused her to bruise exceptionally easily and to suddenly bleed from her hands, arms, and legs with the slightest impact. And sometimes she'd not know she was bleeding and would leave a trail.

We don't know what heart meds NG is on. But I can tell you that in some of the recent pics of NG, her arms and hands look just like my Mom's did, with large bruises and bandages. So I speculate that NG was on an anti-coagulent.

If there is any truth to my speculation, then I wonder if those blood spots are from Nancy having a recent bleed as she left a vehicle and walked TO her front door. At her front door, she'd have paused to get.her keys, perhaps, and bled at a standstill. Just like my Mom might do.

IMO.

 

[LRinCA]

Sheriff also called in homicide after seeing crime scene. Would love to get more info on what the house looked like inside when first responders post 911 call arrived at NG house.

Do we know if blood was found anywhere inside the home? I've not yet read anything about that, but calling in homicide leaves me with the impression there was more inside. Just MOO/IMO

 

[desertgirl11]

Would it be logical to think that the “perp” would have silenced NG? She could’ve screamed on that doorway or anywhere in the open. Was she ‘silenced’ somehow? *awful I know…

Like meaning chloroform? Knockout? Etc

 

[LivvyL]

I’m just seeing the Nest picture of the [link removed] with no backpack and gun. Wow!

It looks like a different night to me. The night Nancy was taken was a full moon and you can see the bright street in the other pictures but it’s very dark in the picture with no bag and gun.
This is beyond creepy.

 

[Cottonn]

I would think LE would have access to earlier video footage and motion alerts from inside the house if someone had broken in prior to this person.

I understand but in my interpretation of how Google was able to retrieve this video even tho no subscription is because it was nearly some of the last video taken because it rewrites over previous vids so they were only able to pull vids from the last 3 hours? I thought police said earlier the cams detected movement inside but had no footage due to lack of subscription? Again if this is 1:30ish is Nancy even really in the house was she ever? Did family give a description of what she was wearing for dinner that night and did they find those clothes in the home as she definitely would've taken them off by nearly 2 in the morning if she were home and in bed sleeping like we are led to believe.
Maybe she never made it to bed. I know watch/app unsynced from pacemaker but did that happen while she was home? Because it can happen anywhere if out of Bluetooth range or app turned off/no wifi. I thought I read somewhere her phone was in her car in the garage even. We don't know when or how blood got outside of front door based on anything the police have told us. All we know for certain about that night is Nancy went to Annie's per uber driver. Everything after that is unclear except she has not been seen since. Maybe the back door was left open for this person but dummy came to the front before going to the back? Police may have more video footage and google might be lying about being able to recover just footage from last 3hrs with no subscription to quell privacy concerns but I can only base my hunch off of what I've been privy too not things the police may or may not have. I'm just trying to think outside the box because this case and everything we know thus far doesn't make sense.

 

[LAhiker]

My understanding is that Nancy was associated with St. Andrew's Presbyterian in the Tucson area.

What does this church in New York have to do with Nancy?

Fox and other outlets have reported that NG and her friends were going to watch the livestream of SG's New York area church. AZCentral reports that that church was Good Shepherd. I think NG also had an association with St. Andrew's Presbyterian in Tucson.

Nancy Guthrie was expected at friend’s home, not church on day she vanished: source

JMO

 

[avalonisland]

Maybe NG did have safe of cash and perhaps gold and was robbed morning of 2/1/26 but family didn't know or is just not releasing info to public. Lots of elderly have cash and valuables at home and NG lived in house since the 1970s. Seems like a robbery by close intimate person(s) of NG and something bad happened to NG in process. Time did not seem to be of essence until NG woke up.

 

[LRinCA]

Maybe NG did have safe of cash and perhaps gold and was robbed morning of 2/1/26 but family didn't know or is just not releasing info to public. Lots of elderly have cash and valuables at home and NG lived in house since the 1970s. Seems like a robbery by close intimate person(s) of NG and something bad happened to NG in process. Time did not seem to be of essence until NG woke up.

At one time my in-laws had a mind-boggling amount of cash in their at-home safe. Worse yet, it was in a cabinet in the garage. It was bolted in, but it made me even more nervous when my MIL was living there by herself.

 

[dogmom805]

My understanding is that Nancy was associated with St. Andrew's Presbyterian in the Tucson area.

What does this church in New York have to do with Nancy?

It's SG's church NG attends virtually

 

[Ninety Nine]

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If NG had other incident of someone at her door scaring her, I wonder why her security system was so minor. Like why the lack of front doorbell video subscription or maybe it ended shortly before latest crime. And, why the only around 2 minute drop off by family at 9:48 pm or so 1/31/26. Surely, family members would drop her off and check entire house and doors to make sure NG would be safe, comfortable, and secure for the night if there were other scary encounters.

My question is why didn't she move?

Neighborhoods change as time passes and if this one became less safe why stay there?

No. I'm not trying to guilt trip the family. I'm just asking why?