• #23,681
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Did the perp remove the camera to buy time for breaking in before Nancy saw him on her phone alerts and made a call for help, or to erase footage for investigation purposes? If the latter, did he not know the footage is normally recoverable, or did he somehow know Nancy didn't have a subscription?

I wouldn't be surprised if he works with his hands, or does boxing, just something about the way he moves them IMO, and have been having the same thought as someone above, about the mouth flashlight being something he's used in his work. Like an electrician, plumber or mechanic.

JMO
 
  • #23,683
No, it was simply used to block the lens. Also it was a Nest camera, not Ring.
After watching it again , it looked like he used the plants to block the camera b/c he needed both hands to remove it.
 
  • #23,684
If a disoriented, elderly woman, with poor vision and hearing, were to hear a familiar voice with urgency?
I think we can safely say he didn't ring the doorbell, knock on the door etc etc etc he would have broken into a back door or used the sliding doors out the back.
 
  • #23,685
- The video suggests that he initially parked to the right side of the house in the main driveway by the garage since he came around from there to the front door.
- She went out the front door. We can infer this because her blood trail, via video/pictures (and I think LE stated this too), went to the end of the front sidewalk to the circle driveway.
- He didn't likely go in the front door from the start. We can infer this because he purportedly, and as the media pictures suggest, disabled/destroyed the flood light in the back of the house at the back door. He allegedly referred to this in a ransom demand/communication.

I think he had already done what he was there to do by the time he approached the front door (now unlocked) and he removed the camera so that he could get her to the van/vehicle, now in the front of the house, in the shortest distance and with the cover of front brush - and without video of her removal or his vehicle. I think this was planned and she was intentionally kidnapped because:

- He sent a ransom demand.
- He specifically placed things and/or disturbed the scene with the intention of proving he intended to do it.

JMO.
 
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My question is why didn't she move?

Neighborhoods change as time passes and if this one became less safe why stay there?

No. I'm not trying to guilt trip the family. I'm just asking why?

Just a guess, but probably because she loved her house and community. She’s been there for like over 50 years, and maybe it’s not true that she felt unsafe. I thought I did read that she felt safe, in fact. Yes, found it:

“When asked if Nancy had ever expressed having any fear of being alone or kidnapped, Blevins said, “No, never.” When asked if she ever spoke about having security concerns, Blevins said, “No, not at all.” (LINK)

She was active with her circle of friends in a book club, and was in a mahjong group. She picked up her grandson from school and watched him sometimes.
She had health issues but was cognitively sound.

Jmo
 
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Just a guess, but probably because she loved her house and community. She’s been there for like over 50 years, and maybe it’s not true that she felt unsafe. I thought I did read that she felt safe, in fact. Yes, found it:

“When asked if Nancy had ever expressed having any fear of being alone or kidnapped, Blevins said, “No, never.” When asked if she ever spoke about having security concerns, Blevins said, “No, not at all.” (LINK)

She was active with her circle of friends in a book club, and was in a mahjong group. She picked up her grandson from school and watched him sometimes.
She had health issues but was cognitively sound.

Jmo
I assume it was the last place she lived with her husband, given the date of purchase, and I think there's a lot of sentimental value in that alone. She raised her children there. And it was what was familiar to her, which is important to many people as they get older. I'm guessing she couldn't imagine living anywhere else, although I have wondered if the larger house purchased by her daughter and SIL was in anticipation of her eventually needing to move in with them. Someone posted the floor plan of that home and it appeared to be quite spacious.

MOO
 
  • #23,689
Would it be logical to think that the “perp” would have silenced NG? She could’ve screamed on that doorway or anywhere in the open. Was she ‘silenced’ somehow? *awful I
She was probably woken up to a gun in her face, told to be quiet and follow his instructions. MOO
 
  • #23,690
I understand but in my interpretation of how Google was able to retrieve this video even tho no subscription is because it was nearly some of the last video taken because it rewrites over previous vids so they were only able to pull vids from the last 3 hours? I thought police said earlier the cams detected movement inside but had no footage due to lack of subscription? Again if this is 1:30ish is Nancy even really in the house was she ever? Did family give a description of what she was wearing for dinner that night and did they find those clothes in the home as she definitely would've taken them off by nearly 2 in the morning if she were home and in bed sleeping like we are led to believe.
Maybe she never made it to bed. I know watch/app unsynced from pacemaker but did that happen while she was home? Because it can happen anywhere if out of Bluetooth range or app turned off/no wifi. I thought I read somewhere her phone was in her car in the garage even. We don't know when or how blood got outside of front door based on anything the police have told us. All we know for certain about that night is Nancy went to Annie's per uber driver. Everything after that is unclear except she has not been seen since. Maybe the back door was left open for this person but dummy came to the front before going to the back? Police may have more video footage and google might be lying about being able to recover just footage from last 3hrs with no subscription to quell privacy concerns but I can only base my hunch off of what I've been privy too not things the police may or may not have. I'm just trying to think outside the box because this case and everything we know thus far doesn't make sense.
My understanding is that local storage constantly rewrites over itself but I do not believe that’s what happens in the cloud on Google’s servers.

However, even if it only store three hours worth -that’s not three realtime hours of footage- it would be up to three hours of recorded events. The camera only records when it’s triggered by motion events or someone ringing the bell.

Originally LE said they had no footage from any camera prior to this being released to the public. There is zero reason to think this is the only footage that’s been retrieved now.

LE has not suggested at any point that NG didn’t make it home or that she might have been harmed somewhere else. On the contrary, it was stated that it was a crime scene so there is obviously signs of foul play in the house. The idea that something happened to her somewhere else and some unknown person later took her phone and watch back to her house at 2:28 seems unsupported by what we know so far.

Also the blood on the porch is not visible in the video footage of the perp.
 
  • #23,691
They’re running out of material. I’m waiting for one of the cable news shows to start interviewing the psychics and tarot card readers making videos on YouTube about this case - yes, they do exist.
I'd be interested in what they thought. Wonder if LE use them or was that just a TV show?
 
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Did the perp remove the camera to buy time for breaking in before Nancy saw him on her phone alerts and made a call for help, or to erase footage for investigation purposes? If the latter, did he not know the footage is normally recoverable, or did he somehow know Nancy didn't have a subscription?

I wouldn't be surprised if he works with his hands, or does boxing, just something about the way he moves them IMO, and have been having the same thought as someone above, about the mouth flashlight being something he's used in his work. Like an electrician, plumber or mechanic.

JMO
Just a guess, but probably because she loved her house and community. She’s been there for like over 50 years, and maybe it’s not true that she felt unsafe. I thought I did read that she felt safe, in fact. Yes, found it:

“When asked if Nancy had ever expressed having any fear of being alone or kidnapped, Blevins said, “No, never.” When asked if she ever spoke about having security concerns, Blevins said, “No, not at all.” (LINK)

She was active with her circle of friends in a book club, and was in a mahjong group. She picked up her grandson from school and watched him sometimes.
She had health issues but was cognitively sound.

Jmo

Thanks for the response. I was thinking about this...

"If NG had an incident of someone at her door scaring her,..."

I know it's Monday morning quarterbacking
Everything is clearer in the rearview mirror
Hindsight is 20/20

But it happened and it's real and it can't be undone.
Praying for a positive outcome.

 
  • #23,693
Why kidnap Nancy for ransom when you don't even try to contact the victim's family? If money was their goal, they failed so now what? But why? It clearly wasn't for money.
 
  • #23,694
A message to someone???...to scare someone??? (not Nancy).
 
  • #23,695
A message to someone???...to scare someone??? (not Nancy).
Going off what we know, it seems personal. I do believe that man went there to kidnap Nancy and I think he wasn't alone.
 
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DBM
 
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Sheriff also called in homicide after seeing crime scene. Would love to get more info on what the house looked like inside when first responders post 911 call arrived at NG house.
We all would.

My feelings are they are keeping it close to the vest to see if it matched the info from the ransom note.

They are probably are also waiting for DNA testing to return.

Jmo
 
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In a recent discussion, Greg Gutfeld proposed an intriguing strategy regarding the ongoing mystery surrounding Savannah Guthrie. Gutfeld, a co-host known for his sharp insights, suggested that Guthrie, perceived as the least likely suspect, should voluntarily undergo a polygraph test

This suggestion aims to create pressure on other individuals associated with the case. By having Guthrie take the polygraph, it could prompt others to follow suit. Gutfeld believes that no one should be ruled out at this stage, and the willingness or reluctance to participate in the test might reveal more about the individuals involved.

Expert Opinions on Polygraph Testing​

Paul Mauro, a guest on the show, chimed in on Gutfeld’s idea. He noted that, as of now, there has been no known application of polygraph tests in this case. While Mauro expressed uncertainty about the progression of the investigation, he acknowledged that the results of polygraph tests are typically not admissible in court.
  • Gutfeld’s Main Argument: Initiating a polygraph test for Guthrie could help uncover the truth.
  • Impact of the Test: Reluctance to participate may indicate something unusual.
  • Legal Considerations: Polygraph results are not used as evidence in court but can serve as investigative pointers.


Gutfield is vile for this.

I already disliked him but this is too much.


Jmo
 
  • #23,699
My question is why didn't she move?

Neighborhoods change as time passes and if this one became less safe why stay there?

No. I'm not trying to guilt trip the family. I'm just asking why?
I don't think it's an unsafe neighborhood at all, in fact, it looks a beautiful and tranquil place to live.

She's loved there for over 50 years. That house has memories, and she probably doesn't envisage ever living anywhere else.

Older people don't like change, and why should she have to move, he daughter is a short ride away, she has friends locally too, her social life, everything she has ever known and loved, and still does.
 
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My question is why didn't she move?

Neighborhoods change as time passes and if this one became less safe why stay there?

No. I'm not trying to guilt trip the family. I'm just asking why?
She got the cameras in order to watch wildlife. It's here on Websleuths.

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