Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[milkshakedonkey]

I can’t keep up and if this has already been discussed I apologize but why two dates do we think?

Residents near Nancy Guthrie’s home asked to check security video from 2 dates

Residents who live near Nancy Guthrie’s home in Tucson are being asked to check security footage from two specific days in January.

www.fox19.com

It was apparently an error due to neighbor involvement. Then again, they are now asking for footage from the entire month, so I dunno what to think.

 

[wibbleflea]

The camera was removed before her pacemaker broke connection with her Apple watch, which was found at her home.

If she never came home and they took her watch and phone to stage it and make it look like she did that would have broken the connection much earlier. I believe AG lives ~20 minutes away.

LE would be able to tell by cell records where her phone was and watch were, as long as they were on which we know her watch was due to knowing when the pacemaker signal was lost.

Am I missing something? There are so many posts questioning if she made it home, but I don't see how it's possible given the watch/pacemaker issue.

JMO

Agreed about the watch and phone data. For the pacemaker, it’s not so clear cut. More here.

 

[cait2007]

I’m assuming they have enough proof to believe that she was in fact back at home late that evening. They probably found her clothes in a hamper from earlier. Also, the phone and pacemaker app probably helped give more definitive answers, because the app being out of range shortly after the motion on the nest cam. If this was set up and she never was actually returned home then we probably would be seeing an arrest of the SIL. JMO.

 

[Leilei]

I can't say I have heard of this news site before (not saying it is not relevant or correct). But this is the first time I have seen mention of the smartwatch being at the foot of the bed.

I thought I had read that it was on its charger.
Why on earth would it be at the foot of the bed?
Did the kidnapper make her remove it, or remove it themselves?
IMO.

 

[IceIce9]

I can't say I have heard of this news site before (not saying it is not relevant or correct). But this is the first time I have seen mention of the smartwatch being at the foot of the bed.

Newsmax is classified as a right-leaning, conservative, or right-wing media outlet, rather than a neutral, objective source.

I’m surprised it is allowed as a source here as it is banned on some other sites.

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[Absoluterubbish]

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So they think whoever did this had been in the area earlier in January. Casing the place out maybe.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021943167218794741

 

[submarine7]

OT but police have really had a tough decade. The world is changing and we no longer are content to wait on one of the networks to present news. We get it ourselves. The dynamics of social interaction are so different and police are negotiating this in real time. I'm not making excuses just pointing out what I was thinking.

 

[Simply Southern]

I haven't heard that the family has hired any attorneys.

It would probably be a smart move to do that right about now, even if innocent.

Savannah is an attorney. Grad top of class Georgetown. She was NBC legal analyst, then White House correspondent before the Today Show.

Savannah Guthrie - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Donswife48]

It's really beyond me that they only now have several items send for testing.
If the house was processed thoroughly from day 1 they would have all the test results back by now - IMO
I would be extremely upset if LE handled my mom's disappearing this way.
Poor Nancy

The glove(s) were just found yesterday 1.5 miles from NG home. They were to be immediately sent to either Quantico or Texas for dna testing.

 

[SlimPickens]

I think that if it was intended as some symbolic gesture or as “insider knowledge” to prove that he’s the guy when communicating with LE or the family, he’d want to make sure that it was seen by leaving the camera there, connected to the system, rather than taking the effort he took to both disable the camera and later remove it entirely.

JMO

Do we know that he was the person that disabled/removed it? I honestly don't know.

JMO.

 

[wibbleflea]

Source: Google maps and 40+ year Tucson resident.

The main roads around the area are Campbell, River, Skyline, First Avenue, and Orange Grove. Street lighting is very dim everywhere in Pima County. There are laws to protect optical astronomy.

Campbell would have been the closest road to exit the neighborhood from but depending on which way you were heading, you could exit on Camino Miraval to Skyline.

The thing is, all of these intersections have traffic cams. I have not been able to find a live or archive link for these cameras though. I'm sure the SO knows every car that went through those intersections in the early morning hours of 2/1

Helpful – thanks! It was full moon or thereabouts but I don’t know if it was a clear night. Still, probably not much chance of video footage of the suspect vehicle. We see the perp using a flashlight just to illuminate the front step.

 

[unresolvedmystery]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021943167218794741

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Where is AG's house in regards to this map?

 

[cherryleaf]

New ideas:

1) Perp used the side of his fist to block camera because he was about to knock on the door when he noticed the camera, so he shifted his fist to quickly block it while he gathered his thoughts (something about the camera surprised him).

2) Perp didn't care that HE was on camera, but still needed it blocked/disabled. Why? To hide video of him leaving. Or video of someone else arriving.

Why hide video of him leaving? Because maybe he was leaving with a dead body that would undermine the kidnapping farce? Or there was some other aspect of the departure that he didn't want on camera?

So maybe he tried to cover it up with a plant, and when that failed, pulled the entire camera off.

Edit. Or he wanted it covered so that when he knocked, NG wouldn't see anything if she checked the camera.

Don’t overthink it too much. His motive for disabling the camera was concealment. Be that him alone, other people, NG.

 

[Chimera]

If they KNOW this, then the guilty party would be pretty obvious presumably. Ransom notes would likely not be taken seriously. Random delivery men would not be detained. I don't know. IMO it feels like a stretch to think family was involved especially if they had the sort of information you are asking about.

If AG and SIL had hired help, then LE would have to prove their involvement and that may be the reason for delay ?
This seems like the main motive was for Nancy to be out of the picture, removed.
And the ransom notes are possibly not related, just a person trying to take advantage of an already distressing situation ?
Imo.

 

[Sessiebo]

The glove(s) were just found yesterday 1.5 miles from NG home. They were to be immediately sent to either Quantico or Texas for dna testing.

I was referring to this article which states;

"Gloves found at Guthrie's house are being sent out for testing, the Pima County Sheriff's Department said in a statement this afternoon.
The department said "several items of evidence" were found at the residence, but provided no details beyond the gloves.
The news comes after multiple reports that a nylon glove was found at the home."

FBI offers identifying details about man seen on Nancy Guthrie's porch

Live updates in the search for Nancy Guthrie, the mother of "TODAY" co-anchor Savannah Guthrie, who disappeared from her home in Arizona.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[nightowl2728]

Source: Google maps and 40+ year Tucson resident.

The main roads around the area are Campbell, River, Skyline, First Avenue, and Orange Grove. Street lighting is very dim everywhere in Pima County. There are laws to protect optical astronomy.

Campbell would have been the closest road to exit the neighborhood from but depending on which way you were heading, you could exit on Camino Miraval to Skyline.

The thing is, all of these intersections have traffic cams. I have not been able to find a live or archive link for these cameras though. I'm sure the SO knows every car that went through those intersections in the early morning hours of 2/1

I think there has to be two possibilities (unless I'm being too black and white) of entry/exit to NG's home (assuming that's where she last was - which is confirmed by both the PC Evidence Submission Portal below saying she was last seen "at her residence" and the criminal complaint against the ransom hoaxer), by CAR or by FOOT.

If by car - it sounds like they would be checking the intersection cameras w=you mention, if not expired, as well as neighborhood home cameras.

If by foot - why oh why have they not done a grid search yet?! To our knowledge. With dogs, etc.

I don't know any other possibility?!

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[cherryleaf]

I think they made a mistake by not establishing a task force early on. I think things would have went much smoother cooperation wise etc. We’ve seen that happen in many cases.

I would agree. I don’t think they realized in the very beginning how big this was going to be. Things quickly spiraled from there.

 

[nightowl2728]

For my one spam post of this thread... I think we need to look into Harvey Levin, he knows too much and gets that TMZ viewership up.

I'm totally kidding, but seriously, this is starting to feel like we're playing real life Clue *face palm*

 

[armchairagatha]

The latest ransom note

TMZ had said LE took the second ransom note more seriously because they referenced where the watch was in NG's home and it wasn't in a normal place one would guess.

It was in one of HL's earlier videos after it was received.

Right. So the second ransom note was definitely from the kidnappers and not a hoax. But it doesn't appear that LE took the note seriously since no payment was made to the bitcoin account. Since they don't seem close to an obvious breakthrough in the case, are they thinking they are dealing with a kidnapper and not a killer and therefore they have the luxury of time? I think there is a risk that the kidnapper doesn't even need to "kill" NG. He can simply abandon her wherever she is hidden away with no food and water and that will end up killing her. That is a real risk if this kidnapper decides to walk away frustrated. MOO.