Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Miss Poovy]

IMO, not really a nightmare to prosecute.

If they have solid irrefutable evidence like the perpetrator(s) DNA at or near the crime scene, phone records, etc.

The prosecution will weigh the evidence they have and not introduce anything that is "iffy" as far as possible cross contamination, etc. It is very normal for investigations to go back to certain things once they start getting actionable leads. the fact that they didn't search every yard early one doesn't really matter.

Seeing hundreds of cases, again.. IF they have vert solid forensic evidence, this will probably prosecute pretty well.

JMO

Sometimes criminals get cocky & start bragging. If a person reported them, they would have to decide if the reward is worth it . . . depending how violent the criminal & potential consequences.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022054649239679247

 

[milkshakedonkey]

If AG and SIL had hired help, then LE would have to prove their involvement and that may be the reason for delay ?
This seems like the main motive was for Nancy to be out of the picture, removed.
And the ransom notes are possibly not related, just a person trying to take advantage of an already distressing situation ?
Imo.

Seems incredibly unlikely IMO and I don’t see the point in hiring people to abscond with your mother or MIL. It complicates things for any sort of monetary gain. JMO.

 

[bdbdbdbd]

It was apparently an error due to neighbor involvement. Then again, they are now asking for footage from the entire month, so I dunno what to think.

Are they asking

Newsmax is classified as a right-leaning, conservative, or right-wing media outlet, rather than a neutral, objective source.

I’m surprised it is allowed as a source here as it is banned on some other sites.

I listen to a lot of podcasts when I drive (I travel for work) and I hear commercials for Newsmax. Newsmax claims to be Donald Trump’s favorite news site.

JMO

Newsmax has been very much involved with allegations re 2020 election results. IMO, exercise caution in evaluating information from this source.

 

[HerNameWasBuffy]

Agreed about the watch and phone data. For the pacemaker, it’s not so clear cut. More here.

Thank you for the link, I stand corrected. I was taking lost connection as it was regularly pinging, not that it was unable to connect when scheduled.

 

[nightowl2728]

From the original Twitter post about the Ring camera footage, there was a general area highlighted of where the Ring camera was, but it was not specific in order to protect privacy. Based on the streets in the area that you could make out, I think it was just West of the Mountain 1st Avenue neighborhood in Tucson and north of Sugar Hill neighborhood (you can look up the original Twitter post, I didn't quote it here sorry).
I don't have NG's exact home address but this is a Google maps screenshot of the area where the Ring camera footage is stated to be TO NG's house.
Interestingly, less than a 19 minute drive which is relevant if you read the TMZ article explaining timing (which I was originally confused on), and it goes along N Campbell Ave which is where they reportedly found the gloves. EDIT: The other glove was apparently found on 1st Ave, which directly borders Mountain 1st Avenue (hence the name) neighborhood.
Obviously none of this is conclusive or exact. Just my speculation, but if I were LE I would pinpoint the home from the Ring camera and get a search warrant/search the block tbh.
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Bumping (my own post... sorry) as relevant re: update on FBI and PC Sheriffs trying to question the man on the Ring camera video per @MassGuy's post.

See original post for:
1. screenshot map of likely location of that Ring camera route to NG's home
2. TMZ article (with video of that man)
3. location of gloves found which would match said route as well as where they are seeking camera footage now (or at least part of the route)

I also talk about how there may have been multiple people involved and there could have been a backpack "handoff" at some point given the Nest footage includes the man both with and without the backpack.

 

[Momtoapug]

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[Baby baby Jane]

The latest ransom note

Right. So the second ransom note was definitely from the kidnappers and not a hoax. But it doesn't appear that LE took the note seriously since no payment was made to the bitcoin account. Since they don't seem close to an obvious breakthrough in the case, are they thinking they are dealing with a kidnapper and not a killer and therefore they have the luxury of time? I think there is a risk that the kidnapper doesn't even need to "kill" NG. He can simply abandon her wherever she is hidden away with no food and water and that will end up killing her. That is a real risk if this kidnapper decides to walk away frustrated. MOO.

is it correct that kidnappers have not given proof of life, ever?

 

[CrimeDawg123]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022054649239679247

You've got to be kidding me

 

[Chainspell]

Where is AG's house in regards to this map?

About 4 miles to the west of NG's house.

 

[Fargo]

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2022039849046614440

I wonder what lead them there? I haven't seen any activity near that location at all. Google Maps

 

[Irmese]

As for the gloves being tested for DNA, we don't know if any foreign DNA was present at NG's house, and they don't yet have a suspect that we know of. All three things have to be connected to be useful. LE put up and took down a tent at NG's front door. I would think that might be to photograph to make a more exact determination of the height of the masked man, and to home in on details. Is anyone else thinking someone broke in the back and let the masked man in? I am starting to think there may have been three - one driving, one who broke in and handled NG, and the masked man, who took down the camera.

 

[armchairagatha]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022054649239679247

Is there video footage of this man?

 

[Monepone]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022054649239679247

I don't put much stock in this. These don't look like the same guy and they are quite different crimes. By all means, they should look into it to rule him out, but I think LE are now just leaking standard investigative stuff to the press to give the impression the investigation hasn't gone off the rails.

 

[Assassino]

I don't think the man in the TMZ video is the same as the man in Nancy's camera video because even though Nancy's camera video is in black and white, you can tell the backpack is a lighter color than the coat. And in TMZ's video, it's the opposite. The backpack is black and the coat is a lighter color.

 

[rjbeachqueen]

And for a whole month?! It says Jan 1 to Feb 1. Unless that is a typo (which is crazy).

I wonder what lead them there? I haven't seen any activity near that location at all. Google Maps

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[nightowl2728]

I wonder what lead them there? I haven't seen any activity near that location at all. Google Maps

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That's a possible route from where the Ring camera footage of the guy with the two backpacks is to NG's house. See my posts

 

[armchairagatha]

is it correct that kidnappers have not given proof of life, ever?

no proof of life but they provided some "insider info" about NG's room (like the location of her Apple watch) that only someone who was in that room would know.

 

[Tugb0ats]

To your point, it is interesting that LE has not ruled out family members. I think there could be different reasons for this, including keeping the perps more comfortable.

But, I also think that family had access to NG's home, etc. and it doesn't mean they weren't involved in some other way shape or form. JMO.

Just not sure it's clear in either direction at this point, other than nothing LE has indicated would say that the family WAS involved

Agreed. I just think with how little we know and it being 12 days in, it’s interesting that no family has been publicly cleared. Sometimes that’s done early to calm speculation. Maybe there are good reasons they haven’t, but it just stands out to me.

 

[wibbleflea]

I don't think the man in the TMZ video is the same as the man in Nancy's camera video because even though Nancy's camera video is in black and white, you can tell the backpack is a lighter color than the coat. And in TMZ's video, it's the opposite. The backpack is black and the coat is a lighter color.

Infrared reversal?