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Anything is possible🤷🏻‍♀️
they can tell how old DNA evidence is, but I’m not sure if they can tell by a few hours or a day or 2. No idea…
Blood probably very recent, most likely struggle during Nancy’s capture. The maid would most likely clean up blood on her regular workday, if a simple cut or nosebleed.
 
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I worry about a possible soft kill taking her out to the desert and leaving her.

Especially if it was someone who knew her and as posted previously maybe some sort of a discussion or request got out of hand.

The visit in the night compelled by drugs or drink to force the discussion or request.
Followed by panic and regret driving a solution to rid of the now big problem; NG knows who barged in wanting to talk and eventually bashed her.

I also wouldn’t assess NG as being wealthy in a home which was probably bought for a very reasonable price back in the day and doesn’t seem ostentatious at all.
Or just because her daughter has wealth. I would expect her daughter’s wealth to be used more for trips, treats and boosts if needed for Mom to stay in her home not substantial money on hand.

A lot of older folks do keep bonds and the like in their homes from the days before the shift to electronic, paperless. Inherited ones filed away long ago, a paper preference to give as gifts, etc. that maybe well known to exist by those close or observed by someone snooping about in the household

All imo
 
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Nest and Ring are just different brand names for similar types of front doorbell cameras. Cameras elsewhere can be connected to the same system, or not.
This is true, but the behavior of Nest and Ring without a cloud storage subscription are somewhat different (and also the quality of their person detection is different), so the distinction is not pointless.
 
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My guess would be that Apple Watch was on her night stand next to the bed. Crazy question but where does every one keep their watch?
Apple watches have rubbish batteries so in all likelihood it was on the nightstand charging (or wherever she kept her charger)
 
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I know. I suspect that it is how it looks: Nancy Guthrie is a widow, who worked hard all her life and lives in a house that is far from modern in the Catalina Foothills rural community. She has been there for a long time. One of the daughters took the care of the mother upon herself as she lives nearby.

But if AG and her husband are not involved, and it seems to me more and more that they were not, can you imagine how their lives might be changing?

I think it is someone who has been watching her, but I doubt it is the family. JMO.
BBM. again: we.don't.know that they took care of her. I've not seen that confirmed anywhere. Just because they lived nearby does NOT equate to taking care of her.
 
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I’m new here. Los Angeles Times said she took an Uber to dinner and that family took her home.

Wondering if LE investigated or interviewed the Uber driver.
Yes. The entire reason we know that there was an Uber ride is because LE said in the news conference yesterday that they interviewed the Uber driver.
 
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The front door camera was almost surely a Nest. I am 99.9% sure. There is a clear and close-up photo of the front door area showing the locks as well as the (now empty) door camera/doorbell bracket, and it looks exactly like a Nest doorbell mounting bracket, for a battery-powered (not wired) Nest doorbell. I suppose it's possible that some other brand uses an identical bracket, or that they had somehow mounted a different brand on a Nest mounting bracket, but I think it's pretty unlikely. Occam's Razor says that it was a Nest doorbell.
Ok thx. I am unfamiliar with home security cam brands and how they work. I’m not techy. A company put 2 in for us, but i don’t think they are nest or ring

We have a goofy sweet floppy eared Great Dane. He’s a big pudding, but potential perps wouldn’t know that 😎
I like to at least think his size and bark is our first line of deterrence.
 
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I agree. I’m feeling this may have nothing to do with a ransom and that the actual motive is something entirely different than what’s being discussed. Not wanting to elaborate just now.
Something is missing - definitely. Just don't see this as an abduction for $$$.
 
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I need to chime in on this.My husband is Italian.He looks scary, very.He looks brooding because he is socially awkward.But he’s the first to cry when watching a sappy movie or presented with a gift.You really can’t judge a book by its cover.
Your husband sounds like a sweet and wonderful person !
:)

Was disappointed to wake up and see there's no updates on Nancy's case.

Nancy seemed like the type to have cookies baked for you, if she was expecting you to stop over by her house ?
I'm incensed that a criminal could target an elderly person, and am very sorry for all who truly love her.
Imo.
 
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My gut tells me that family member(s) are responsible for Nancy’s disappearance. My inclination would be that the ransom notes are unrelated because it’s unlikely that a family member would have (or know someone who has) the capability to send the notes from an undiscoverable IP address. Then again, I suppose it’s possible that that the FBI does know the source of the ransom notes, but is building a case behind the scenes that we are unaware of. MOO.
 
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I'm having a disconnect here because I have no idea what time I open my garage door and what time I close it.

Also, I come in through the garage a lot because our front door is super moody.

How do they know what time her garage door went up and then down?
 
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How the heck did he get her number? Everyone has cell phones it isn't like the old days when you could get peoples home phone numbers, man I am old.
she has a published business #... might have used that
 
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IMO the only way family could be involved with this, and it have a purely financial motive like inheritance or property, is if she were left in a location where she would actually be found or someone associated with them facilitated a ransom demand (in which case she would likely be alive and medicated). But family can't get an inheritance or claim someone's property without a death certificate, and the state wouldn't declare her deceased for years without a body. So if they were involved it would not be in their financial (inheritance) interest to take her away from the scene at all, and if they did take her away not to put her in a place that she couldn't be found easily.

This is why I'm not thinking family financial motive.

JMO.
That's an excellent point, Slim. Maybe she had a substantial life insurance policy?

Uh, strike that. The family would have to produce a death certificate. Lol
 
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I’m new here. Los Angeles Times said she took an Uber to dinner and that family took her home.

Wondering if LE investigated or interviewed the Uber driver.

Article
The chief said yesterday at the presser that they talked to the Uber driver as well as many other people.

jmo
 
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Ok, to be fair. My Mom literally lives down the street from me. Sometimes I call or text her and she doesn't answer, which is ODD. I will call her cell, call her house... maybe give her a few minutes (maybe she is in the shower? maybe in the bathroom and didn't take phone lol ) I will give her some time, but after about 30 minutes or so, yep, I would go over to make sure everything was okay. My timeline would be very similar.

We don't know if something like this has happened before, where she doesn't answer right away but does after 10-15 minutes or so.

There also seems to be some question about someone calling the family. Do we have confirmation of this? It was not in the timeline from LE yesterday.
I've done this with my mom, too, prior to her going into memory care.
 
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Your grandmother sounds awesome! I don't think anyone is implying that NG is incapable of taking an Uber, but I can't think of many 84 year olds, especially women, who are comfortable doing that. Having said that, I can't see how her decision to do that has much to do with the case, other than looking at the Uber driver, which they've apparently done.
It’s a way to “confirm” that she got to the home of “family” for dinner, and a reason for “family” to say that she “got home” because “family” drove her there.

moo.
 
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BBM. again: we.don't.know that they took care of her. I've not seen that confirmed anywhere. Just because they lived nearby does NOT equate to taking care of her.
Maybe they grocery shopped for her, took her to doc appts, visited, took her to get new comfy shoes when she asked. My mom does stuff like that for an old nun in town. She’s not changing bed pans or anything. Just checks in on her and does what she asks and runs a few errands for her and sometimes with her
 
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This post kind of contradicts a post of mine a couple back but it has also stuck out to me that right since the get go the Sheriff has said multiple times that he believes NG is alive. He has framed it as a kidnapping right from the beginning. There’s got to be something they have that has made him think that from the word go. Maybe there was a note at the scene? From the family’s videos they have said the kidnapper has not contacted them directly at all so that makes me think a note was never sent to them
@Absoluterubbish.... bbm above. You have brought up a really, really great point. It has been reported the slider/French door
to the backyard was wide open. Wouldn't it be crazy (or just another Fargo-like mishap) if a note was left on the kitchen table and it blew off in the morning. I did some checking and guess what? The wind was 3 times stronger that morning than the normal 5MPH. I know some of my ideas are "far-fetched" but haven't we seen some incredible happenings before in some of these cases?
On the morning of Saturday, January 31, 2026, Tucson experienced breezy to gusty easterly winds, with speeds ranging between 10 to 15 mph, according to reports updated on that morning.
 
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But if someone knew that there wasn't a subscription why would they even bother to take it? Maybe they weren't aware that it didn't save, but still.
Many people let their subscriptions lapse. They might miss a reminder text.
It doesn’t seem like most workers or even family would know this except whoever helps with Nancy’s bills. And it still might slip, because paying yearly doesn’t come up often.
 
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