AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[txsleuth70]

It is my understanding- someone correct me if I’m wrong - that the front door camera was not a nest. The front door had a recording/working camera, so was maybe a ring camera?? The cameras placed all around the property (other than front door and MAYBE back door) were nests without subscriptions/no video.

Is that right?
Ring cams recording at front and back doors
—smashed and/or ring are just different brand names

It is my understanding- someone correct me if I’m wrong - that the front door camera was not a nest. The front door had a recording/working camera, so was maybe a ring camera?? The cameras placed all around the property (other than front door and MAYBE back door) were nests without subscriptions/no video.

Is that right?
Ring cams recording at front and back doors
—smashed and/or taken

Nest cams everywhere else
(not main entrances)
—no subscription/no video
—not smashed, not taken

Nest and Ring are just different brand names for similar types of front doorbell cameras. Cameras elsewhere can be connected to the same system, or not.

 

[Strangeworld]

Does anyone remember early on when the ransom note was reported on, that it was mentioned somewhere about the Thursday/Monday deadlines. But then in the last 24 hours people were responding like it was new information. I could have sworn I'd already heard that somewhere earlier. From what I recall, it was ransom to be sent by Thursday and to be received in their account by Monday. When I heard that I thought well maybe they are allowing time for the transfer - so pay by Thursday and it better be in my account by Monday.

Maybe I'm wrong, there's been so much swirling around

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Vinnie Politan Court TV​

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A Ransom Note For the Return of Nancy Guthrie Has Been Sent to Several Media Outlets including KGUN in Tucson… the demand is in the millions paid in Bitcoin by Thursday with a deadline that the money must be received by Monday. They also threaten to end Nancy’s life. They also claim to have knowledge of two specific items from the crime scene.

All of this is frightening and barbaric. But is it legitimate or someone trying to take advantage of the Guthries’ tragic situation?

BBM
And the WS post:

AZ Post in thread 'Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026'

Wednesday at 9:31 PM

For real? I'm no expert but that doesn't sound like pro kidnapper protocol at all. It sounds half-baked and flaky.

There were several reports from several stations and I may have the specifics wrong since one of the below says
"the demand is in the millions paid in Bitcoin by Thursday with a deadline that the money must be received by Monday."
but a lot of the reports have been scrubbed clean.

Here is one

Ransom note demanding millions in crypto investigated in Guthrie's disappearance

"Today" show co-host Savannah Guthrie is asking for prayers as authorities in Arizona search for her mother.

www.scrippsnews.com

Here is another from Vinnie Politan Court TV which...

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[stormymama]

Question for Sleuthers: why do you think there are pieces of boxwood or other shrubbery by the front door? Near the doormat and drops of blood?

those clippings by the door have been bothering me this week as well.

 

[RatFace]

I think the doorstep simply had not been swept in some time. I think the blood is old and not related to her disappearance at all. LE has not mentioned any other blood in the home, have they? If this was some sort of serious injury, there would be a lot more blood, for one thing. The elderly have very thin, fragile skin. It's a normal part of aging. I wouldn't be surprised if she nicked herself on a finger or her arm at some point in the past and lost a few drops of blood on the doorstep. That's been my thought process thus far.

I'm not sure I agree about the blood being old but it does make sense that the porch wasn't swept in a while. She apparently used the garage for coming and going and may not have noticed the porch was dirty. We also don't use our front door and I have gone out there at times and been appalled at how dirty the porch had gotten!

 

[MizStery]

I am sticking with the LE official timeline. And it contains no time for church member call to family. So IMO we don't know if there was a long delay between the call the family received and their arrival at the property. JMO

Ticya LE is keeping it close when the family were initially notified that NG was unaccounted for. I think we all are desperately attempting to narrow/pinpoint events on the official timeline.As others have mentioned the lack of news conferences and the vague timeline is likely all we will ever get.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

IMO the only way family could be involved with this, and it have a purely financial motive like inheritance or property, is if she were left in a location where she would actually be found or someone associated with them facilitated a ransom demand (in which case she would likely be alive and medicated). But family can't get an inheritance or claim someone's property without a death certificate, and the state wouldn't declare her deceased for years without a body. So if they were involved it would not be in their financial (inheritance) interest to take her away from the scene at all, and if they did take her away not to put her in a place that she couldn't be found easily.

This is why I'm not thinking family financial motive.

JMO.

Yes exactly. And, not to be insensitive, it would seem time was on their side to just wait it out.

 

[janell44]

I’m new here. Los Angeles Times said she took an Uber to dinner and that family took her home.

Wondering if LE investigated or interviewed the Uber driver.

Article

 

[Izzylizzy]

Ashleigh Banfield with Elizabeth Varges

2 hrs ago

 

[SaraSmile]

Anything is possible
they can tell how old DNA evidence is, but I’m not sure if they can tell by a few hours or a day or 2. No idea…

Blood probably very recent, most likely struggle during Nancy’s capture. The maid would most likely clean up blood on her regular workday, if a simple cut or nosebleed.

 

[Jade]

I worry about a possible soft kill taking her out to the desert and leaving her.

Especially if it was someone who knew her and as posted previously maybe some sort of a discussion or request got out of hand.

The visit in the night compelled by drugs or drink to force the discussion or request.
Followed by panic and regret driving a solution to rid of the now big problem; NG knows who barged in wanting to talk and eventually bashed her.

I also wouldn’t assess NG as being wealthy in a home which was probably bought for a very reasonable price back in the day and doesn’t seem ostentatious at all.
Or just because her daughter has wealth. I would expect her daughter’s wealth to be used more for trips, treats and boosts if needed for Mom to stay in her home not substantial money on hand.

A lot of older folks do keep bonds and the like in their homes from the days before the shift to electronic, paperless. Inherited ones filed away long ago, a paper preference to give as gifts, etc. that maybe well known to exist by those close or observed by someone snooping about in the household

All imo

 

[HoveringWombats]

Nest and Ring are just different brand names for similar types of front doorbell cameras. Cameras elsewhere can be connected to the same system, or not.

This is true, but the behavior of Nest and Ring without a cloud storage subscription are somewhat different (and also the quality of their person detection is different), so the distinction is not pointless.

 

[Greenestdays]

My guess would be that Apple Watch was on her night stand next to the bed. Crazy question but where does every one keep their watch?

Apple watches have rubbish batteries so in all likelihood it was on the nightstand charging (or wherever she kept her charger)

 

[moonbeams]

I know. I suspect that it is how it looks: Nancy Guthrie is a widow, who worked hard all her life and lives in a house that is far from modern in the Catalina Foothills rural community. She has been there for a long time. One of the daughters took the care of the mother upon herself as she lives nearby.

But if AG and her husband are not involved, and it seems to me more and more that they were not, can you imagine how their lives might be changing?

I think it is someone who has been watching her, but I doubt it is the family. JMO.

BBM. again: we.don't.know that they took care of her. I've not seen that confirmed anywhere. Just because they lived nearby does NOT equate to taking care of her.

 

[HoveringWombats]

I’m new here. Los Angeles Times said she took an Uber to dinner and that family took her home.

Wondering if LE investigated or interviewed the Uber driver.

Yes. The entire reason we know that there was an Uber ride is because LE said in the news conference yesterday that they interviewed the Uber driver.

 

[justwannahelp]

The front door camera was almost surely a Nest. I am 99.9% sure. There is a clear and close-up photo of the front door area showing the locks as well as the (now empty) door camera/doorbell bracket, and it looks exactly like a Nest doorbell mounting bracket, for a battery-powered (not wired) Nest doorbell. I suppose it's possible that some other brand uses an identical bracket, or that they had somehow mounted a different brand on a Nest mounting bracket, but I think it's pretty unlikely. Occam's Razor says that it was a Nest doorbell.

Ok thx. I am unfamiliar with home security cam brands and how they work. I’m not techy. A company put 2 in for us, but i don’t think they are nest or ring

We have a goofy sweet floppy eared Great Dane. He’s a big pudding, but potential perps wouldn’t know that
I like to at least think his size and bark is our first line of deterrence.

 

[Trino]

I agree. I’m feeling this may have nothing to do with a ransom and that the actual motive is something entirely different than what’s being discussed. Not wanting to elaborate just now.

Something is missing - definitely. Just don't see this as an abduction for $$$.

 

[Chimera]

I need to chime in on this.My husband is Italian.He looks scary, very.He looks brooding because he is socially awkward.But he’s the first to cry when watching a sappy movie or presented with a gift.You really can’t judge a book by its cover.

Your husband sounds like a sweet and wonderful person !


Was disappointed to wake up and see there's no updates on Nancy's case.

Nancy seemed like the type to have cookies baked for you, if she was expecting you to stop over by her house ?
I'm incensed that a criminal could target an elderly person, and am very sorry for all who truly love her.
Imo.

 

[allboys]

My gut tells me that family member(s) are responsible for Nancy’s disappearance. My inclination would be that the ransom notes are unrelated because it’s unlikely that a family member would have (or know someone who has) the capability to send the notes from an undiscoverable IP address. Then again, I suppose it’s possible that that the FBI does know the source of the ransom notes, but is building a case behind the scenes that we are unaware of. MOO.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I'm having a disconnect here because I have no idea what time I open my garage door and what time I close it.

Also, I come in through the garage a lot because our front door is super moody.

How do they know what time her garage door went up and then down?

 

[acutename]

How the heck did he get her number? Everyone has cell phones it isn't like the old days when you could get peoples home phone numbers, man I am old.

she has a published business #... might have used that