Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[tbgo]

If they’re taking photos after using luminol, does that mean that they picked up on blood in the garage? They don’t bother taking photos to show that nothing was found, right?

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Did Trump speak on this again today? If so, I missed it.

It was Friday Night on his plane. I'm sure the perpetrator saw that and I just don't know how they wouldn't be absolutely paranoid at this point.

 

[GooseyPie]

SIL is sister-in-law. BIL is brother-in-law.

What SIL are people referring to? AG is SG's sister, not sister-in-law.

Son in law.

 

[MassGuy]

Only $6M?? I’m surprised they haven’t paid this yet.

They want proof of life first. I do think payment will be made before the deadline though, if it hasn't already.

 

[Morag]

Just my opinion, but maybe LE got some evidence results back from labs and now are curious to see whose dna is primary on the steering wheel. I've always thought it odd NG's cell phone was in the car, when it seems most people would have their phone in the house with them. Just my random thoughts/guesses, fwiw.

There was a double murder in Austin a number of years ago. Immaculately cleaned up crime scene, and no fingerprints….except on the button to roll back the seat of the victims’ car. That one thumbprint was enough to convict.

 

[MassGuy]

Uncharted territory for those involved as well as spectators, huh... Everyone saying it's wild the way things have played and continue to play out!

I've never seen a case like this in my lifetime, and I have no doubt I never will again. I've been confused before, but never this confused.

Every theory has a major issue.

 

[shonyakay]

It was Friday Night on his plane. I'm sure the perpetrator saw that and I just don't know how they wouldn't be absolutely paranoid at this point.

Oh thanks. I saw that one.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Ransom Demand was $6 million, and the deadline is 5 PM on Monday.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020383385823191210

Wow. I wonder if they were meant to release that info as so far it’s been kept under wraps

 

[TheDinks]

Yeah with Trump coming out and saying positive things about how the direction of this investigation is going, I'd have to imagine TC, If he was involved, would be pretty antsy knowing the walls are closing in on him.

I just don't know how the person that did this can rest easy wherever he is knowing that at any moment, possibly while he's asleep, a bunch of armed guys are ready to storm his home and take him down.

When I heard Trump's words about solving it (or whatever he said) I took it with a grain of salt as I do with every other announcement he makes!

I mean, I am not in US and this isn't political, but he just says what he needs to say at any given time, often economical with the truth.

 

[shonyakay]

Wow. I wonder if they were meant to release that info as so far it’s been kept under wraps

The amount of ransom demanded was never released until now but Harvey Levin revealed that there was another deadline Monday with something worse happening if demands weren't met.

 

[avalonisland]

This is what I've been pondering - I just can't imagine this interaction lasting only 2 minutes. I recall someone saying maybe they went through the garage door with her then exited another way. This could make sense except there is no mention of it in the timeline. It very specifically notes just the garage door.

She would likely move slowly or at least slower than someone with more stability on their feet, even just getting out of the car, saying goodbyes as you said. I just feel like 2 minutes doesn't seem right. Maybe it is, maybe the routine is she just likes to get herself in on her own and immediately turns and closes the garage door. But I'm thinking when someone drops me off, I will often wait until they are reversing or driving off to wave goodbye. Even that would add some time to it.

I keep bouncing between ransom versus these pieces of information and just can't make sense of it all

The Tucson daughter and her partner are the only ones who state NG came home 1/31/26 after 3 1/2 hours at Tucson daughter's house. This screams to me an inside job by people NG knew, as so much time in home by others 1:30am to 2:30am after 2 min alleged drop off of Mom at 9:45pm. How do we know NG did not have meds with her? Did police count the pills in NG script bottles? I think having NG take Uber to daughter's house 10 min drive at 5:32pm to Tucson daughter's house was start of this fake kidnapping in my opinion. Elderly bleed easily. The drops at front entryway may have been from a simple nosebleed early 1/31/26 before Uber driver showed up. The second all siblings plea on video....not all 3 show geniune concern....just 2, one seems forced.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

The amount of ransom demanded was never released until now but Harvey Levin revealed that there was another deadline Monday with something worse happening if demands weren't met.

Yep had heard the monday deadline with consequences but not the amount or the time

 

[avalonisland]

The amount of ransom demanded was never released until now but Harvey Levin revealed that there was another deadline Monday with something worse happening if demands weren't met.

Extended deadlines with no proof of life....seems like ransom is not same people as whoever took NG

 

[GooseyPie]

So Annie and her husband had NG come to the restaurant in an UBER, which gave them the opportunity to take her home, they probably went in her house to discuss money and an argument broke out, Annie got injured and they knew they would be suspects so they put her in her own car and buried her in the desert MOO.

 

[floridafreshsqueez]

Idk ya’ll, the latest visit to AG’s house by LE is extremely unsettling to me. I’m starting to wonder if NG’s house was released so quickly so that LE could plant devices and observe before going back in to take inventory, note what was moved and/if any cleaning took place. This is not looking good.

I can’t see SG or CG going along with video pleas for NG’s return if they had suspected anything of AG or her husband. Even with SG’s decades of experience reporting and being on camera, being a victim in this story has to be like an alternate reality for her. Or maybe I’m wrong, and both SG and CG are more than willing to do what’s asked of them by the FBI in these circumstances regardless of who’s at the center of it all. It makes my stomach turn just trying to fathom it. But then again, I’m not a reporter that’s spent years and years on camera in front of the entire world that also did white collar criminal defense. Nor have I ever served in a military role to have the discipline to be cool and calm in the face of extreme situations like CG.

The more time goes on, the more I’m irritated at the sender of these ransom notes. The arrest of the hoaxer makes me think perhaps the FBI has no issue at all knowing who sent these ransom notes and where they’re coming from…

 

[avalonisland]

I read that NG took Uber to Tucson daughter's house 5:32pm and it is alleged NG had dinner and played game there around 6pm to 9:30pm.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Is it possible FBI are playing along with a 'ransom charade'?

It was mentioned a couple times on this thread, the ransom might've been an after thought/red herring post (possible) homicide as a distraction or create a plot to lure LE away from the usual suspects.

But my only problem with ransom being a ploy if hypothetically "family" is involved - how in the world would they have the time and privacy to cook this up?

You'd have to be extremely tech savvy dealing with anonymity and crypto if you're going to send an untraceable ransom note, message, email, etc. And you'd need to be ALONE. No one else around to sit and have privacy to do that in a relatively short period of time.

If an after thought it doesn't make sense. Unless premeditated but not thinking so if a family issue.

I wonder who else AG's family were connected to or olose to? Would they be protecting someone close to them?

 

[shonyakay]

Yep had heard the monday deadline with consequences but not the amount or the time

Oh true, true. Good point. The exact time of the deadline "5 p.m." Monday wasn't revealed until now as well.

 

[avalonisland]

Idk ya’ll, the latest visit to AG’s house by LE is extremely unsettling to me. I’m starting to wonder if NG’s house was released so quickly was so that LE could plant devices and observe before going back in to take inventory, note what was moved and/if any cleaning took place. This is not looking good.

I can’t see SG or CG going along with video pleas for NG’s return if they had any suspected anything of AG or her husband. Even with SG’s decades of experience reporting and being on camera, being a victim in this story has to be like an alternate reality for her. Or maybe I’m wrong, and both SG and CG are more than willing to do what’s asked of them by the FBI in these circumstances regardless of who’s at the center of it all. It makes my stomach turn just trying to fathom it. But then again, I’m not a reporter that’s spent years and years on camera in front of the entire world that also did white collar criminal defense. Nor have I ever served in a military role to have the discipline to be cool and calm in the face of extreme situations like CG.

The more time goes on, the more I’m irritated at the sender of these ransom notes. The arrest of the hoaxer makes me think perhaps the FBI has no issue at all knowing who sent these ransom notes and where they’re coming from…

SG has law degree and decades of reporting true crime. I think SG and CG distress seems genuine. SG had a close bond with NG and I believe this is all a setup to get SG to give up her millions of dollars to what appears to me to be an inside job

 

[Strangeworld]

Seriously people, while everyone's opinion is as valid as mine, who really thinks the SIL would do this and think he could get away with it? I mean, he'd have to know he'd be a prime suspect so he'd have to work far harder at a coverup than a third party.

I'm really thinking this looks like a kidnapping for ransom. My money is on cartels but there are plenty of other possibilities.

Imagine how crime stats would plummet if this were true!

People regularly think they can evade the law, inflated sense of ego or competency. Prisons are full of them