Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[simlyme]

So Annie and her husband had NG come to the restaurant in an UBER, which gave them the opportunity to take her home, they probably went in her house to discuss money and an argument broke out, Annie got injured and they knew they would be suspects so they put her in her own car and buried her in the desert.

No, Nancy was dropped off by uber at annies and tommasos house 4 miles away,for dinner and game play, then supposably brought home by annie and tommaso or just tommaso ?

 

[shonyakay]

Extended deadlines with no proof of life....seems like ransom is not same people as whoever took NG

Both deadlines were in the very first note received. One deadline on Thursday and the other next Monday.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

When I heard Trump's words about solving it (or whatever he said) I took it with a grain of salt as I do with every other announcement he makes!

I mean, I am not in US and this isn't political, but he just says what he needs to say at any given time, often economical with the truth.

He's getting briefed by the FBI. I really do think they are making progress here. Vehicle was caught on camera somewhere and it's just a matter of piecing the footage from the cameras together. This was done early in the morning and this vehicle will stick out like a sore thumb.

 

[avalonisland]

Oh true, true. Good point. The exact time of the deadline "5 p.m." Monday wasn't revealed until now as well.

5pm eastern, central, or pacific time. The ransom demands seem bogus to me and the fact that there has been no proof of life of NG since 1/31/26 is interesting

 

[avalonisland]

Right, which was a 2 minute time span. And that's why I thought they just pulled up and watched her go into the garage.

Two minutes does not seem like enough time to help an 84 yr old with mobility issues, using her walker or cane.

You'd have to pull into the garage, allow time to go open her car door and help her get out of the car and grab her belongings and cane or her walker, and then slowly walk w/her into her home, turn on the lights, and say good night ... then the driver needs to walk back to their car and pull out.

Can that be done in under two minutes time?

Right, but 2 minutes is not much time to get all that done with an 84 yr old with mobility issues, imo. And I took care of my mom for several years and I know that everything takes longer when helping an 84 year old move around, etc



Yes, however the most recent timeline by Nanos said "family members' dropped Nancy off. So I'd think maybe one was driving and the other would be helping her inside if they did help her inside.


Or possibly, the just drove up, used the app to open the garage door, and watched as she entered the doorway into her home...






Per Sheriff Nanos 9:48 p.m. - Family drops Nancy off at home & garage door opens.

9:50 p.m. - Garage door closes.

 

[shonyakay]

5pm eastern, central, or pacific time. The ransom demands seem bogus to me and the fact that there has been no proof of life of NG since 1/31/26 is interesting

I am assuming Arizona - mountain standard time - since that is where Nancy was taken (allegedly) from.

 

[Strangeworld]

So Annie and her husband had NG come to the restaurant in an UBER, which gave them the opportunity to take her home, they probably went in her house to discuss money and an argument broke out, Annie got injured and they knew they would be suspects so they put her in her own car and buried her in the desert MOO.

What restaurant?

 

[InVinoVeritas]

I don't buy the money theories re SIL - it seems from videos online etc, that AG and SG have a good relationship. Surely if there was a need for money, they could ask SG rather than NG?? Doesn't make sense to me. Ok, teaching salaries may not be high end but far from poverty line.

 

[avalonisland]

An 84 year old frail woman who is in constant pain and requires a walking cane to walk cannot physically take off seatbelt, grab her belongings (purse, walking cane, maybe coat), and get out of a car and inside home via garage in 120 seconds. The front of house entry way had lights on. Why have an elderly woman enter house through garage? I think the crime started after Uber driver dropped NG off at Tucson sister's house.

 

[simlyme]

What restaurant?

No restaurant , I answered Goosy pie above. Nancy was taken by uber to Annie's and Tommaso's house for dinner and game play, as far as we know.

 

[simlyme]

An 84 year old frail woman who is in constant pain and requires a walking cane to walk cannot physically take off seatbelt, grab her belongings (purse, walking cane, maybe coat), and get out of a car and inside home via garage in 120 seconds. The front of house entry way had lights on. Why have an elderly woman enter house through garage? I think the crime started after Uber driver dropped NG off at Tucson sister's house.

ME TOO !!

 

[avalonisland]

I don't buy the money theories re SIL - it seems from videos online etc, that AG and SG have a good relationship. Surely if there was a need for money, they could ask SG rather than NG?? Doesn't make sense to me. Ok, teaching salaries may not be high end but far from poverty line.

There are dozen plus clips of NG visiting SG on Today show and I have seen none of AG or CG visiting Today Show set. Yes, a few public photos of AG with SG and NG but that's it. SG and NG super close relationship. I wonder who was NG's primary caregiver in Tucson as that person will hold lots of info.

 

[MesquiteO21]

Idk ya’ll, the latest visit to AG’s house by LE is extremely unsettling to me. I’m starting to wonder if NG’s house was released so quickly so that LE could plant devices and observe before going back in to take inventory, note what was moved and/if any cleaning took place. This is not looking good.

I’ve floated this idea too. Maybe they were the ones who put the camera on the roof since the back door had initially been found wide open so they wanted to monitor the backyard in particular…hmm.

Moo

 

[Lalalacasbah]

But wait - IF and I mean a big IF... AG and hubby are involved or even one of them, there's no way they could hide or explain that ransom money even if they got it! What in the world would or could they do with it? They definitely couldn't spend it!

To invest overseas or find a broker to 'bury the money' would be tough.

So if they are involved it would be an after thought to spin a kidnapping/ransom plot to divert suspicion.

I'm not sure it's them, but maybe someone close to them? Argh I go all over the place here!

 

[maskedwoman]

I thought the plea by her son yesterday was luke warm at best. I would have expected a former military guy, career National Guard is what has been said, would have spoken more man to man..

I think its quite unfair to judge. We don't know him or what advice he was given before recording that.

 

[floridafreshsqueez]

SG has law degree and decades of reporting true crime. I think SG and CG distress seems genuine. SG had a close bond with NG and I believe this is all a setup to get SG to give up her millions of dollars to what appears to me to be an inside job

Oh I’m not doubting SG and CG’s distress. Its the idea of having to go along with the video pleas despite possible suspicion of a family member and/or BIL while sitting right next to one of them that is wild to me. But like I said, maybe SG and CG are capable of what would be almost impossible for your average person.

I definitely would doubt my own ability to compartmentalize because the realization of what my family members may have done would probably drive me into a Michael Corleone style spiral.

 

[Rumination1]

Hoping and praying for a good outcome . The only one that can be is Nancy comes home

 

[avalonisland]

There was a lot of discussion about this for days. I'll save you some trouble - there isn't one connected to this case.

Dog in Christmas pj photo appears to be SG's dog, Fetch. NG had limited mobility, lives in pain, and health condition, so probably not able to have a dog

 

[Poedelini]

How big is the chance that NG is still alive?

 

[clearskies1]

An 84 year old frail woman who is in constant pain and requires a walking cane to walk cannot physically take off seatbelt, grab her belongings (purse, walking cane, maybe coat), and get out of a car and inside home via garage in 120 seconds. The front of house entry way had lights on. Why have an elderly woman enter house through garage? I think the crime started after Uber driver dropped NG off at Tucson sister's house.

I thought I heard that a phone app was used to open the garage. App could have been activated when she was out of the car, ready to walk in.