Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SlimPickens]

These are good points but the FBI agent at the presser did state that the note hadn't been confirmed and they are letting the family decide if they want to respond it. Time has passed and another note was received since that presser though.

If both ransom notes weren't assumed to be legitimate based on all available information and evidence, and what law enforcement could confirm from them based on the information they contained, it is doubtful that the family would've been given access to those letters in the first place. Those letters are evidence by default since they directly relate to the investigation, the actual receivers of them can't even talk about the contents of them without obstruction/impeding charges, and no one outside the investigation can have access to them unless law enforcement endorses them enough to share them and deems them critical enough to their investigation to share so they can catch the perpetrator(s).

JMO.

 

[shonyakay]

Now that you mention it, the billboards don't seam to fit. This case doesn't need more awareness and she isn't a typical missing person. I think I remember reading that they were placed strategically? For what reason?

Would the FBI even bother placing them if there was definitive proof that she was deceased and/or if they had a likely perp?
I don't know the answer.

Maybe @MassGuy could give his take. He is so knowledgeable about LE tactics.

 

[justwannahelp]

I know that there is a lot of uncertainty as to whether or not to take Ashleigh Banfield seriously, but in her report she did mention that the backdoor was found wide open. If it was a glass sliding door, as are common in Arizona and the southwest US, those are not that difficult to pry open.

The way they are locked down here (in addition to little latches near the handle) is with these expandable metal pole things that fit into the grooves where the doors slide back and forth to block the doors from sliding open in their grooves.

 

[Charlot123]

If she has any suspicions of him, maybe she's in denial? He's the father of her child. It would be a very difficult thing to wrap your head around right away

Absolutely impossible, especially if he helped you with your mom for years.

 

[MassGuy]

Ransom Demand was $6 million, and the deadline is 5 PM on Monday.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020383385823191210

 

[MassGuy]

Would the FBI even bother placing them if there was definitive proof that she was deceased and/or if they had a likely perp?
I don't know the answer.

Maybe @MassGuy could give his take. He is so knowledgeable about LE tactics.

This is uncharted territory for me, but I can't imagine they would do something like that if they had a prime suspect.

ETA: Things seem to have changed recently, with Trump's comments, the return to Nancy's house, and what we saw tonight.

 

[Chainspell]

Wonder if (well, presumably) LE gave the okay to be more detailed about the note, think that was the first time the 6mil amount has been dropped? Curious about what that could indicate for the case as a whole...

 

[KonaHonu]

Seriously people, while everyone's opinion is as valid as mine, who really thinks the SIL would do this and think he could get away with it? I mean, he'd have to know he'd be a prime suspect so he'd have to work far harder at a coverup than a third party.

I'm really thinking this looks like a kidnapping for ransom. My money is on cartels but there are plenty of other possibilities.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

IF TC is involved, I find it really hard that AG wouldn't have any inclination. Presumably this would be out of character for TC and therefore you'd expect some unusual behaviour. However I guess the stress of the whole situation could be blamed ...

Yeah with Trump coming out and saying positive things about how the direction of this investigation is going, I'd have to imagine TC, If he was involved, would be pretty antsy knowing the walls are closing in on him.

I just don't know how the person that did this can rest easy wherever he is knowing that at any moment, possibly while he's asleep, a bunch of armed guys are ready to storm his home and take him down.

 

[shonyakay]

Wonder if (well, presumably) LE gave the okay to be more detailed about the note, think that was the first time the 6mil amount has been dropped? Curious about what that could indicate for the case as a whole...

The amount is newly released information. Why that amount? It is specific. Why not 5 million?

 

[Chainspell]

Seriously people, while everyone's opinion is as valid as mine, who really thinks the SIL would do this and think he could get away with it? I mean, he'd have to know he'd be a prime suspect so he'd have to work far harder at a coverup than a third party.

I'm really thinking this looks like a kidnapping for ransom. My money is on cartels but there are plenty of other possibilities.

Unless whatever happened was spur of the moment. If that's the case, though, I'm...I don't want to say impressed, but might be the best word for it. All speculation, of course.

Cartels being on this would be very far outside the norm, I think it's unlikely. Doesn't fit their usual targets for kidnapping. JMO.

 

[TheDinks]

This is uncharted territory for me, but I can't imagine they would do something like that if they had a prime suspect.

ETA: Things seem to have changed recently, with Trump's comments, the return to Nancy's house, and what we saw tonight.

Uncharted territory for those involved as well as spectators, huh... Everyone saying it's wild the way things have played and continue to play out!

 

[SlimPickens]

The amount is newly released information. Why that amount? It is specific. Why not 5 million?

A million a piece?

JMO.

 

[Cebavl]

Ransom Demand was $6 million, and the deadline is 5 PM on Monday.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020383385823191210

Only $6M?? I’m surprised they haven’t paid this yet.

 

[nightowl2728]

I'm curious if there's any relation to the timing of the SG Tuscon video a few months ago and her supposed to be leaving for the Olympics right before it happened. Like if you were weighing that in light of the SIL being a possible suspect, or not, how that would connect, if at all

 

[maskedwoman]

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I wonder if they're looking into a car repair man, since Nancy's car was damaged in the front? It's also possible she gave him car keys that might've had her house key attached or garage door opener inside.

That is just generally horrifying. I just got my car serviced and obediently handed my keys over to a total stranger.

 

[simlyme]

Don't know if this has been posted ? Just watched with tears when I listened to Nancy near the end. Filmed 3 months ago.
All this is just not fair!

 

[shonyakay]

Yeah with Trump coming out and saying positive things about how the direction of this investigation is going, I'd have to imagine TC, If he was involved, would be pretty antsy knowing the walls are closing in on him.

I just don't know how the person that did this can rest easy wherever he is knowing that at any moment, possibly while he's asleep, a bunch of armed guys are ready to storm his home and take him down.

Did Trump speak on this again today? If so, I missed it.

 

[nightowl2728]

I'm curious if SG helps out her siblings financially at all. Her net worth is estimated at $40M, and I believe her NYC townhome is worth about $11M and she may possibly have another home. I'm not sure her husband's net worth. I could see, if she doesn't help them at all, there being resentment. However, she is in no way obligated to

EDIT: and AG/TC's home is listed at about $650k.

 

[MassGuy]

Seriously people, while everyone's opinion is as valid as mine, who really thinks the SIL would do this and think he could get away with it? I mean, he'd have to know he'd be a prime suspect so he'd have to work far harder at a coverup than a third party.

I'm really thinking this looks like a kidnapping for ransom. My money is on cartels but there are plenty of other possibilities.

Every criminal thinks they can get away with it, otherwise they wouldn't do it.

He could have thought that police would buy what the crime scene was selling - someone broke in and committed a kidnapping.

Smart people can be horrible criminals.

The ransom may be an effort to cover it up, once he realized he was being seriously looked at.

If it is kidnapping for ransom, it's unprecedented in this day and age.

I follow cartels almost as much as I follow murder cases. This is just not how they behave on American soil, especially with the victim here (elderly, low risk).

All for what amounts to chump change for them.