AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Vegasgrl]

Has anyone mentioned NG's dog? On some local FB pages a lady has commented saying she has house sat for NG and "her precious pup" before. Also, in the Christmas photo NG posted on FB, TC is holding a dog.
I'm asking as, if the dog didn't know whoever took NG, surely they'd have made a hell of a lot of noise? Also, where is the dog?

There was a lot of discussion about this for days. I'll save you some trouble - there isn't one connected to this case.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

There was a lot of discussion about this for days. I'll save you some trouble - there isn't one connected to this case.

Thanks!

 

[Ghostwheel]

Modnote:

Uber picks us up and drops us off at our front door. They like to stay on the road/not go down our driveway, so she may not have exited from garage for uber.

Still haven’t found anything confirming location of where her phone was found. The news nation article says her watch, car and phone were all found at her home. That doesn’t say phone was found IN the home or IN the car and listing it next to car further adds more uncertainty…

This is a fair point about the Uber, though a driver will do a lot for a good tip. I was just stating that if she DID exit that way, then there should have been an open/ close earlier, too. The only thing I noted was that going out front door IIRC is five steps down (small step door to porch, porch to ground, some space, then three steps to driveway.) Going out the garage is three steps down (small step from door to landing step, step to garage floor, space to edge of Garage, step to drive). In my experience, steps are terrible for mobility issues (generalization). Everyone I have ever known would rather travel twice the distance on flat ground to avoid extra steps. JME though.

I always find what they don't say and how things are said as important as what they do say. They noticed the cameras were missing they didn't remove them. That only means they didn't take them off their mounts, not that they did not pick them up from the ground somewhere. The watch, phone and car were AT the home, not IN the home. No mention of her glasses. At all. Those things matter.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

I wonder if Annie is still staying with her husband? I can't imagine she had any role in this and I know the cops have been to their home several times. If she had any inkling that he was involved, she'd be out of there and away from him.

 

[nightowl2728]

I wonder if Annie is still staying with her husband? I can't imagine she had any role in this and I know the cops have been to their home several times. If she had any inkling that he was involved, she'd be out of there and away from him.

If she has any suspicions of him, maybe she's in denial? He's the father of her child. It would be a very difficult thing to wrap your head around right away

 

[shonyakay]

Law enforcement aren't going to use a grief-stricken family as celebrity pawns to catch an unrelated makeshift extortionist, folks. And AG's home is not and has never been an established crime scene.

JMO.

These are good points but the FBI agent at the presser did state that the note hadn't been confirmed and they are letting the family decide if they want to respond to it. Time has passed and another note was received since that presser though.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

I wonder if Annie is still staying with her husband? I can't imagine she had any role in this and I know the cops have been to their home several times. If she had any inkling that he was involved, she'd be out of there and away from him.

IF TC is involved, I find it really hard that AG wouldn't have any inclination. Presumably this would be out of character for TC and therefore you'd expect some unusual behaviour. However I guess the stress of the whole situation could be blamed ...

 

[LRinCA]

I wonder if Annie is still staying with her husband? I can't imagine she had any role in this and I know the cops have been to their home several times. If she had any inkling that he was involved, she'd be out of there and away from him.

I don't think I'd be able to shut my eyes for a moment if I thought a loved one I was living with might have committed a crime of such magnitude. I keep thinking about how tender and loving my husband was with my mother and her last words were spoken to him a day before she died. He was also the one who sat by her side and said "it's okay to go, we will someday see each other on the other side." I just can't bear to think that the SIL brought harm to his mother-in-law. All evening I've been thinking "maybe something else happened, she fell and hurt herself and they panicked." Anything but the idea of killing her - on purpose.

 

[bajaflash]

I don't think I'd be able to shut my eyes for a moment if I thought a loved one I was living with might have committed a crime of such magnitude. I keep thinking about how tender and loving my husband was with my mother and her last words were spoken to him a day before she died. He was also the one who sat by her side and said "it's okay to go, we will someday see each other on the other side." I just can't bear to think that the SIL brought harm to his mother-in-law. All evening I've been thinking "maybe something else happened, she fell and hurt herself and they panicked." Anything but the idea of killing her - on purpose.

So glad she heard these words at the end.

 

[SlimPickens]

These are good points but the FBI agent at the presser did state that the note hadn't been confirmed and they are letting the family decide if they want to respond it. Time has passed and another note was received since that presser though.

If both ransom notes weren't assumed to be legitimate based on all available information and evidence, and what law enforcement could confirm from them based on the information they contained, it is doubtful that the family would've been given access to those letters in the first place. Those letters are evidence by default since they directly relate to the investigation, the actual receivers of them can't even talk about the contents of them without obstruction/impeding charges, and no one outside the investigation can have access to them unless law enforcement endorses them enough to share them and deems them critical enough to their investigation to share so they can catch the perpetrator(s).

JMO.

 

[shonyakay]

Now that you mention it, the billboards don't seam to fit. This case doesn't need more awareness and she isn't a typical missing person. I think I remember reading that they were placed strategically? For what reason?

Would the FBI even bother placing them if there was definitive proof that she was deceased and/or if they had a likely perp?
I don't know the answer.

Maybe @MassGuy could give his take. He is so knowledgeable about LE tactics.

 

[justwannahelp]

I know that there is a lot of uncertainty as to whether or not to take Ashleigh Banfield seriously, but in her report she did mention that the backdoor was found wide open. If it was a glass sliding door, as are common in Arizona and the southwest US, those are not that difficult to pry open.

The way they are locked down here (in addition to little latches near the handle) is with these expandable metal pole things that fit into the grooves where the doors slide back and forth to block the doors from sliding open in their grooves.

 

[Charlot123]

If she has any suspicions of him, maybe she's in denial? He's the father of her child. It would be a very difficult thing to wrap your head around right away

Absolutely impossible, especially if he helped you with your mom for years.

 

[MassGuy]

Ransom Demand was $6 million, and the deadline is 5 PM on Monday.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020383385823191210

 

[MassGuy]

Would the FBI even bother placing them if there was definitive proof that she was deceased and/or if they had a likely perp?
I don't know the answer.

Maybe @MassGuy could give his take. He is so knowledgeable about LE tactics.

This is uncharted territory for me, but I can't imagine they would do something like that if they had a prime suspect.

ETA: Things seem to have changed recently, with Trump's comments, the return to Nancy's house, and what we saw tonight.

 

[Chainspell]

Wonder if (well, presumably) LE gave the okay to be more detailed about the note, think that was the first time the 6mil amount has been dropped? Curious about what that could indicate for the case as a whole...

 

[KonaHonu]

Seriously people, while everyone's opinion is as valid as mine, who really thinks the SIL would do this and think he could get away with it? I mean, he'd have to know he'd be a prime suspect so he'd have to work far harder at a coverup than a third party.

I'm really thinking this looks like a kidnapping for ransom. My money is on cartels but there are plenty of other possibilities.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

IF TC is involved, I find it really hard that AG wouldn't have any inclination. Presumably this would be out of character for TC and therefore you'd expect some unusual behaviour. However I guess the stress of the whole situation could be blamed ...

Yeah with Trump coming out and saying positive things about how the direction of this investigation is going, I'd have to imagine TC, If he was involved, would be pretty antsy knowing the walls are closing in on him.

I just don't know how the person that did this can rest easy wherever he is knowing that at any moment, possibly while he's asleep, a bunch of armed guys are ready to storm his home and take him down.

 

[shonyakay]

Wonder if (well, presumably) LE gave the okay to be more detailed about the note, think that was the first time the 6mil amount has been dropped? Curious about what that could indicate for the case as a whole...

The amount is newly released information. Why that amount? It is specific. Why not 5 million?

 

[Chainspell]

Seriously people, while everyone's opinion is as valid as mine, who really thinks the SIL would do this and think he could get away with it? I mean, he'd have to know he'd be a prime suspect so he'd have to work far harder at a coverup than a third party.

I'm really thinking this looks like a kidnapping for ransom. My money is on cartels but there are plenty of other possibilities.

Unless whatever happened was spur of the moment. If that's the case, though, I'm...I don't want to say impressed, but might be the best word for it. All speculation, of course.

Cartels being on this would be very far outside the norm, I think it's unlikely. Doesn't fit their usual targets for kidnapping. JMO.